A Good Idea

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    http://www.sacbee.com/content/politics/story/14046764p-14878183c.html

     
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    This is typical. Blame anyone but yourself. Presumably SOME students are passing the test and graduating. They must have other factors working their favor, right? :rolleyes:

    If you don't know the material, you shouldn't get the degree.
     
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    Exactly. I think there might be exceptions for special needs kids, who get a modified diploma in the first place.

    Schools should not be misrepresenting the product they turn out, with false labeling. The kids can achieve, the markers must be set.
     
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    The markers seemed pretty low to begin with. 6th-10th grade material in a 12th grade exit exam. C'mon, people.
     
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    Hopefully that is to phase in a plan of markers. No school wants to award less than 85% diplomas. Truth to tell, most of us forget specifics of school work when the test is over. Most of the basis of what you know were laid down through 8th grade.

    High school covers most of the same ground, in more depth. Exceptions made for math and science where new material is really presented.
     
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    That's pretty true. Of course, in our Catholic school curriculum, we learned new stuff in religoin. In GS, it was mostly Catholic catechism. In HS, we took World Religion, Old & New Testament, and Love & Relationships, among other things. But you're right; I can't remember much new material outside of math & science in HS.
     
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    Even in religion, the basis must be laid down early for the further study in later years. If that early basis was not there, it's very unlikely that most 14-18 year olds would actually bother. It's hard enough when kids have been raised with values, as there are so many temptations along with the natural desire to begin the independence process.

    Now a twenty something person, at that age or a bit later, many do feel a calling, whatever the background was.
     
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    Another fine example of what I stated in another thread is possibly the biggest factor in public schools failing today. There have always been uninvolved parents, and kids with scary homes, and these are surely big problems too, but without the ability to pursue the programs and the discipline needed without fear of expensive lawsuits, the teachers and the administrations have their hands tied. They are afraid to do the right thing, and have little recourse anyway when a kid is out of control or simply won't do the work.
     
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    Part of the reason I'm heartened by the judicial appointments. If schools begin winning these suits, and the plaintiffs get stuck with the legal bills, things would change pretty quick.
     
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    Amen, sister! :beer:
     
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