A Glaring Error in Genesis???

[PoliticalChic]

Ah! The joy it evokes in our secular brethren to point out errors in the Bible!
Followed, of course, are terms like 'superstition,' and 'fairy tale.'


What if the book of Genesis turns out to be true....backed up by scientific research?
What then?

1. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light.
And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness. Genesis 1:1-4



2. Wait....' God was hovering over the face of the waters.'
Waters??? On the Earth????
And that line comes before 'Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light.'

Over what waters????
Waters before the creation of the sun????


Could it be????
Yup....could be......so says the latest scientific research.




3. "Earth’s Water Is Older Than the Sun
The sun, at 4.6 billion years old, predates all the other bodies in our solar system. But it turns out that much of the water we swim in and drink here on Earth is even older.

A new model of the chemistry of the early solar system finds that up to half the water now on Earth was inherited from an abundant supply of interstellar ice as our sun formed. That means our solar system’s moisture wasn’t the result of local conditions in the proto-planetary disk, but rather a regular feature of planetary formation ....

Interstellar ice has a very high ratio of deuterium to hydrogen because it formed in very cold temperatures.

... researchers estimate, 30 to 50 percent of our solar system’s water was already a part of the ancient molecular cloud that spawned the Sun and planets. They published their findings today in the journal Science."
Earth's Water Is Older Than the Sun - D-brief


They sure didn't include that in government school, did they.


What a lovely Sunday, huh?

 

[Marion Morrison]

It's Sunday! God's day.

 

[saveliberty]

Prolly a few folks breaking the second commandment about now...

 

[PoliticalChic]

4. And, as we are proving the validity of the Bible via science....I'd be remiss if I didn't remind all about the agreement of modern science with the steps mentioned in Genesis....



There was a book by a recognized scientist, zoologist Andrew Parker, who compares the steps from the Big Bang to the biological diversity we witness today, and shows how startlingly similar the phases are to what modern science posits as occurred.

"In The Genesis Enigma, Parker steps day by day through the week of biblical creation to explain the science that verifies its account. "
Amazon

"....science that verifies its account.!!!!"


Can I get an 'amen'!!

 

[PoliticalChic]

5. I did mention that the latest scientific belief is that there were waters extant before the creation of the sun.....

And it was discussed in Discovery Magazine.



"Discover is an American general audience science magazine launched in October 1980 by Time Inc. It has been owned by Kalmbach Publishing since 2010.

Discover was created primarily through the efforts of Time magazine editor Leon Jaroff. He noticed that magazine sales jumped every time the cover featured a science topic. ... in 1971, he began agitating for the creation of a science-oriented magazine....Discover was originally launched into a burgeoning market for science magazines aimed at educated non-professionals, intended to be easier to read than Scientific American but more detailed and science-oriented than Popular Science.[4] " Discover (magazine) - Wikipedia




5. The following was a comment in Discover Magazine following the article "Earth’s Water Is Older Than the Sun"

"Read Genesis 1:2-3. Interesting how God explained through Moses that prior to the Light (sun) He hovered over the waters... Just remember the One who created the heavens and the earth inspired men to write the bible. Science will always prove the bible. And no, the earth is not 7000 years old, and the bible does not say it is!!!


Genesis 1-2New International Version (NIV)

The Beginning

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day."
Earth's Water Is Older Than the Sun - D-brief




What if the book of Genesis turns out to be true....backed up by scientific research?
What then?

 

[Penelope]

so God hovered over interstellar ice ( a mass of ice) , so he did not hover over water.

 

[PoliticalChic]

so God hovered over interstellar ice ( a mass of ice) , so he did not hover over water.

I see you have a reading problem....but I'm here to help...

"Earth’s Water Is Older Than the Sun
The sun, at 4.6 billion years old, predates all the other bodies in our solar system. But it turns out that much of the water we swim in and drink here on Earth is even older.

A new model of the chemistry of the early solar system finds that up to half the water now on Earth was inherited from an abundant supply of interstellar ice as our sun formed. That means our solar system’s moisture wasn’t the result of local conditions in the proto-planetary disk, but rather a regular feature of planetary formation ....

Interstellar ice has a very high ratio of deuterium to hydrogen because it formed in very cold temperatures.

... researchers estimate, 30 to 50 percent of our solar system’s water was already a part of the ancient molecular cloud that spawned the Sun and planets. They published their findings today in the journal Science."
Earth's Water Is Older Than the Sun - D-brief



This is a little tougher....but I feel you can do it:

What is ice made of?



Take your time.

 

[Penelope]

Genesis does not say ice and the ice mass (solid h20) and the sun were being made at the same time. All you have done is disproved the genesis account.

If anything God lives in a dark cold place (as we know space is) . There is reason we say Jesus is the light of the world (the NT) . What do you imagine that might be?

You have explained nothing and that explains nothing.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Genesis does not say ice and the ice mass (solid h20) and the sun were being made at the same time. All you have done is disproved the genesis account.

If anything God lives in a dark cold place (as we know space is) . There is reason we say Jesus is the light of the world (the NT) . What do you imagine that might be?

You have explained nothing and that explains nothing.

Oh....I see......you're ashamed that you couldn't answer this question:
'what is ice made of?'

I'll help......water.

Ice is water.


And...
"The sun, at 4.6 billion years old, predates all the other bodies in our solar system. But it turns out that much of the water we swim in and drink here on Earth is even older."


Amazing, huh?
Turns out that Genesis was spot on!

 

[Penelope]

Genesis does not say ice and the ice mass (solid h20) and the sun were being made at the same time. All you have done is disproved the genesis account.

If anything God lives in a dark cold place (as we know space is) . There is reason we say Jesus is the light of the world (the NT) . What do you imagine that might be?

You have explained nothing and that explains nothing.

Oh....I see......you're ashamed that you couldn't answer this question:
'what is ice made of?'

I'll help......water.

Ice is water.


And...
"The sun, at 4.6 billion years old, predates all the other bodies in our solar system. But it turns out that much of the water we swim in and drink here on Earth is even older."


Amazing, huh?
Turns out that Genesis was spot on!

Ice is solid , water is not. God hovered over the ice, not water. Grasping at straws I see.

 

[Baron]

Ah! The joy it evokes in our secular brethren to point out errors in the Bible!
Followed, of course, are terms like 'superstition,' and 'fairy tale.'


What if the book of Genesis turns out to be true....backed up by scientific research?
What then?

1. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light.
And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness. Genesis 1:1-4



2. Wait....' God was hovering over the face of the waters.'
Waters??? On the Earth????
And that line comes before 'Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light.'

Over what waters????
Waters before the creation of the sun????


Could it be????
Yup....could be......so says the latest scientific research.




3. "Earth’s Water Is Older Than the Sun
The sun, at 4.6 billion years old, predates all the other bodies in our solar system. But it turns out that much of the water we swim in and drink here on Earth is even older.

A new model of the chemistry of the early solar system finds that up to half the water now on Earth was inherited from an abundant supply of interstellar ice as our sun formed. That means our solar system’s moisture wasn’t the result of local conditions in the proto-planetary disk, but rather a regular feature of planetary formation ....

Interstellar ice has a very high ratio of deuterium to hydrogen because it formed in very cold temperatures.

... researchers estimate, 30 to 50 percent of our solar system’s water was already a part of the ancient molecular cloud that spawned the Sun and planets. They published their findings today in the journal Science."
Earth's Water Is Older Than the Sun - D-brief


They sure didn't include that in government school, did they.


What a lovely Sunday, huh?

The Book of Genesis has not any Errors, it is the True Word of God.
And all liars and atheists will go to Hell and have many time to explain their point of view to Devil

 

[PoliticalChic]

Genesis does not say ice and the ice mass (solid h20) and the sun were being made at the same time. All you have done is disproved the genesis account.

If anything God lives in a dark cold place (as we know space is) . There is reason we say Jesus is the light of the world (the NT) . What do you imagine that might be?

You have explained nothing and that explains nothing.

Oh....I see......you're ashamed that you couldn't answer this question:
'what is ice made of?'

I'll help......water.

Ice is water.


And...
"The sun, at 4.6 billion years old, predates all the other bodies in our solar system. But it turns out that much of the water we swim in and drink here on Earth is even older."


Amazing, huh?
Turns out that Genesis was spot on!

Ice is solid , water is not. God hovered over the ice, not water. Grasping at straws I see.

This was the query....asked twice....'what is ice made of?'

And you still can't answer it.

Or....afraid to.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Ah! The joy it evokes in our secular brethren to point out errors in the Bible!
Followed, of course, are terms like 'superstition,' and 'fairy tale.'


What if the book of Genesis turns out to be true....backed up by scientific research?
What then?

1. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light.
And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness. Genesis 1:1-4



2. Wait....' God was hovering over the face of the waters.'
Waters??? On the Earth????
And that line comes before 'Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light.'

Over what waters????
Waters before the creation of the sun????


Could it be????
Yup....could be......so says the latest scientific research.




3. "Earth’s Water Is Older Than the Sun
The sun, at 4.6 billion years old, predates all the other bodies in our solar system. But it turns out that much of the water we swim in and drink here on Earth is even older.

A new model of the chemistry of the early solar system finds that up to half the water now on Earth was inherited from an abundant supply of interstellar ice as our sun formed. That means our solar system’s moisture wasn’t the result of local conditions in the proto-planetary disk, but rather a regular feature of planetary formation ....

Interstellar ice has a very high ratio of deuterium to hydrogen because it formed in very cold temperatures.

... researchers estimate, 30 to 50 percent of our solar system’s water was already a part of the ancient molecular cloud that spawned the Sun and planets. They published their findings today in the journal Science."
Earth's Water Is Older Than the Sun - D-brief


They sure didn't include that in government school, did they.


What a lovely Sunday, huh?

The Book of Genesis has not any Errors, it is the True Word of God.
And all liars and atheists will go to Hell and have many time to explain their point of view to Devil

Perhaps you should read beyond the title before making a buffoon of yourself.

Just a suggestion.

 

[PoliticalChic]

There are those government school grads who require a more regimented journal of science than Discovery Magazine.....


6. From Scientific American....

"Earth Has Water Older Than the Sun
Not all water in the solar system today could have formed in our solar system

As much as half of the water in Earth’s oceans could be older than the Sun, a study has found

But if some of the water could survive the star-forming process, and if the Solar System’s case is typical, it means that water “is available as a universal ingredient during planet formation”, she says."
Earth Has Water Older Than the Sun




7. From Genesis
' God was hovering over the face of the waters.'
That line comes before 'Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light.'


Over what waters????

Waters before the creation of the sun????


Could it be????


Yup....could be......so says the latest scientific research.

 

[Penelope]

Ah! The joy it evokes in our secular brethren to point out errors in the Bible!
Followed, of course, are terms like 'superstition,' and 'fairy tale.'


What if the book of Genesis turns out to be true....backed up by scientific research?
What then?

1. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light.
And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness. Genesis 1:1-4



2. Wait....' God was hovering over the face of the waters.'
Waters??? On the Earth????
And that line comes before 'Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light.'

Over what waters????
Waters before the creation of the sun????


Could it be????
Yup....could be......so says the latest scientific research.




3. "Earth’s Water Is Older Than the Sun
The sun, at 4.6 billion years old, predates all the other bodies in our solar system. But it turns out that much of the water we swim in and drink here on Earth is even older.

A new model of the chemistry of the early solar system finds that up to half the water now on Earth was inherited from an abundant supply of interstellar ice as our sun formed. That means our solar system’s moisture wasn’t the result of local conditions in the proto-planetary disk, but rather a regular feature of planetary formation ....

Interstellar ice has a very high ratio of deuterium to hydrogen because it formed in very cold temperatures.

... researchers estimate, 30 to 50 percent of our solar system’s water was already a part of the ancient molecular cloud that spawned the Sun and planets. They published their findings today in the journal Science."
Earth's Water Is Older Than the Sun - D-brief


They sure didn't include that in government school, did they.


What a lovely Sunday, huh?

The Book of Genesis has not any Errors, it is the True Word of God.
And all liars and atheists will go to Hell and have many time to explain their point of view to Devil

Which creation story in genesis it the truth?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Ah! The joy it evokes in our secular brethren to point out errors in the Bible!
Followed, of course, are terms like 'superstition,' and 'fairy tale.'


What if the book of Genesis turns out to be true....backed up by scientific research?
What then?

1. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light.
And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness. Genesis 1:1-4



2. Wait....' God was hovering over the face of the waters.'
Waters??? On the Earth????
And that line comes before 'Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light.'

Over what waters????
Waters before the creation of the sun????


Could it be????
Yup....could be......so says the latest scientific research.




3. "Earth’s Water Is Older Than the Sun
The sun, at 4.6 billion years old, predates all the other bodies in our solar system. But it turns out that much of the water we swim in and drink here on Earth is even older.

A new model of the chemistry of the early solar system finds that up to half the water now on Earth was inherited from an abundant supply of interstellar ice as our sun formed. That means our solar system’s moisture wasn’t the result of local conditions in the proto-planetary disk, but rather a regular feature of planetary formation ....

Interstellar ice has a very high ratio of deuterium to hydrogen because it formed in very cold temperatures.

... researchers estimate, 30 to 50 percent of our solar system’s water was already a part of the ancient molecular cloud that spawned the Sun and planets. They published their findings today in the journal Science."
Earth's Water Is Older Than the Sun - D-brief


They sure didn't include that in government school, did they.


What a lovely Sunday, huh?

The Book of Genesis has not any Errors, it is the True Word of God.
And all liars and atheists will go to Hell and have many time to explain their point of view to Devil

Which creation story in genesis it the truth?

"In The Genesis Enigma, Parker steps day by day through the week of biblical creation to explain the science that verifies its account. "
Amazon

As I am aware that folks of your....persuasion.....eschew books, I'm happy to provide some of my notes on the book 'The Genesis Enigma.'


What is truly astounding is how closely the biblical version of events parallels what modern science believes.


Now...about the origin of the universe.....and the fact that modern science now accepts the very same order of events as Genesis.....

1. God’s first command in Genesis is “Let there be light.” Nor is this the only introduction of light in the Genesis creation account, but it is the first, it represents the beginning of the formation of our solar system. And that was ‘The Big Bang’…some 13,700 million years ago. Quite an event…it lasted just 10 to the minus 35th seconds, beginning the universe, generating time and space, as well as all the matter and energy that the universe would ever, ever, contain! Big Bang…explosion….energy….light. But no atoms to form the sun for some time. Light…but no sun? So says science. And so says Genesis. Parker, “The Genesis Enigma,” chapter two.

a. For reference, Genesis 1, verses 1-4: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.



2. Modern science has largely revealed the earth’s history with respect to the land and the seas. Coincidentally, the first chapter of the Bible relates a formation, a creation narrative, strangely similar to scientific understanding.


a. Genesis 1: 6-10…”And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day. And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dryland appear: and it was so. And God called the dry landEarth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it wasgood.


b. “The formation of the sea as well as the land is chosen as the second stage in the creation on the Bible’s first page. Modern science reveals that land and sea certainly were in place before the next stage in the scientific account of the history of the universe.” Parker, “The Genesis Enigma,” p.54. What a coincidence….or confluence.


Curious, the author of Genesis lived in a landlocked region; and Moses wandered in the desert, not along the coast. Yet…sea and land appear in this prominent position in Genesis. Must be a coincidence….



3. The opening page of Genesis asserts that plant life appeared after the seas were formed, and names specifically, grass, herbs and fruit trees. According to the author of Genesis, this is the stage where life actually begins: this is the first mention life of any kind. Plant life. Yet, the simple forms of life that are considered plant life were not discovered until a couple of millennia after Genesis was completed. So…how come Genesis mentions grass, herbs, and fruit trees at precisely this moment on the creation narrative? Parker, “The Genesis Enigma,” chapter four.


a. Genesis 1: 11-12 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed,and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so. And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.


b. “ From about 400 million years back to 600 million years, all kinds of complex multicellular life would have been confined to the waters of the earth….Our world's ecosystems depend upon photosynthesis to construct the fuel that all life runs on; in an ancient world with conditions similar to today's, you would need plants (as organisms that can make complex "fuel" molecules using simple building blocks and energy available from the environment, plants are known as one type of autotrophs, or "self-feeders") to evolve first, or there would be no bottom link to the food chain.” Biology of Animals & Plants - Origins & History of Life on Earth



4. Track the events in the creation account of Genesis and it’s amazing how closely the events conform to the current view of modern science. An explosion- the universe – oceans/land - plants- …And next, in verse 20, we find: And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.


Kind of unusual…since the author of Genesis, and, if we are to believe that the first one to speak those words, Moses, didn’t really live in a habitat that one might call ‘sea side.’


Would have been understandable if this space in the Bible had, instead, have focused on the numbers of land mammals, birds, or insects found in ancient Israel, wouldn’t it? But, instead, marine organisms are specifically named: ‘Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life,…’


Wouldn’t it be interesting if science find lots and lots of marine organisms extant at this point? Imagine if Genesis actually parallels the history of life on earth as expounded by science. Be a heck of a coincidence.

a. A truly important development took place some 521 million years ago, in the geological period known as the Cambrian. “The most abundant and diverse animals of Cambrian time were the trilobites. Trilobites had long antennae, compound eyes, many jointed legs, and a hard exoskeleton like many of their modern arthropod relatives, such as lobsters, crabs, and insects. The Cambrian is sometimes called the "Age of Trilobites"…” Redirect


b. No earlier fossils were found during Darwin’s lifetime: “If the theory [evolution] be true it is indisputable that before the lowest Cambrian stratum was deposited ... the world swarmed with living creatures. [Yet] to the question why we do not find rich fossiliferous deposits belonging to these earliest periods. . . I can give no satisfactory answer. The case at present must remain inexplicable.” http://www.paleosoc.org/Oldest_Fossil.pdf

....life at this stage, about 500 million years ago, was entirely marine.

How could the Genesis writer have gotten this right?

That writer…he’s landlocked, knows little of diversity….what are the odds that ‘chance’ is the answer?


What are the odds?



5. The sequence of events from the creation of the universe, to the present, begin with great explosion that produces the universe, including the earth. The earth cools enough for oceans to form. The first life is plant life, able to photosynthesize, and add oxygen to the atmosphere. All sorts of simple non-plants fill the seas, most wormlike, with soft bodies. Along come the trilobites, hugely advanced, with hard bodies…and most amazingly, with true eyes! This makes them the primary predators….but, imposes enormous evolutionary pressure on the other organisms. The result is the Cambrian explosion, lots of small organisms with defensive armor and hard exoskeletons, some 521 million years ago. So says modern science.


a. “…Genesis shows remarkable accuracy when compared to the scientific story of life’s evolutionary journey. Here, the Genesis writer envisioned great creatures evolving from those tiny Cambrian forms, eventually making their way out of the sea….Genesis seems to have picked out all the events of the highest order of importance, and put them in the right order….I don’t know the odds against such a parallel- against making a successful guess at the scientific orthodoxy of three thousand year into the future from a knowledge base of nothing- but they must be extraordinarily long.” Parker, Op. Cit., p.163-164.


b. An interesting sidelight is the ‘evolution of the Bible’ itself. Christians have incorporated a great deal of science’s process. Early in the 20th century, the Scofield Reference Bible was published. This was a new version of the King James Bible with which added a note to Genesis, suggesting what is called the “gap theory.’ It allows that millions of years could have passed between God’s creation of the heavens and the earth, thereby freeing Genesis from the literal six-day process. “What it left was a series- the same series- of timeless events; and it is these that match the scientific account of life’s history.” Parker, “The Genesis Enigma,” p. 160.


6. Unavoidable is the recognition that, once the restrictions due to the ‘six-day’ view are removed, the order of events established by modern science conform to the sequence in the first chapter of Genesis, written millennia earlier: light from an explosion (the Big Bang), universe/earth formed, the seas from the cooling earth, plants as the first life forms; abundant sea life (the Cambrian explosion), the (evolution) of the flora and fauna we see today. Neat, eh?

Lucky guess by the author of the creation account of Genesis?


7. If it is not evidence for the God, then the author of Genesis 1, or Moses, perhaps, must have understood that the universe formed first, then the seas appeared on earth, and that life forms were photosynthetic. Following that, he had to have realized that an eye evolved in an early animal in the geological past, which triggered the evolution of all the major groups of animals that exist today. Still further, he must have felt that all of this occurred in the seas, before animals moved onto land, and only when they did move out of the water did mammals and birds evolve.


The Old Testament was written, although not compiled, almost three millennia ago. It is extraordinary that the writer of the creation account in Genesis, chapter one, got it right in his exposition of the series of events: his sequence turns out to be scientifically accurate in terms of contemporary knowledge.




Wow! What an incredibly lucky guess! What a considerable stroke of good fortune!


The alternative explanation is divine intervention.

 

[Penelope]

Genesis
Chapter 1

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

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Well we know this can't be without the sun, also does God know the sun is a star?

2 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

 

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Genesis
Chapter 1

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

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Well we know this can't be without the sun, also does God know the sun is a star?

2 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

"Well we know this can't be without the sun, ...."

You provided the answer here:

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.


Is it possible you don't understand the English that you quoted?
Dante refers to la prima luce....but, that's from another book you haven't read.



Or....is it that your preference for the Prince of Darkness clouds your perception?

 

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As is the premise of this thread, science has documented yet another statement from the Bible.....that water existed before the sun.

8. The story is also found in Astronomy


"Astronomy magazine: 40 years and counting
Astronomy leads the astronomy hobby as the most popular magazine of its kind in the world." Astronomy magazine: 40 years and counting


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"Earth’s water is older than the Sun
Water was crucial to the rise of life on Earth and is also important to evaluating the possibility of life on other planets. Identifying the original source of Earth’s water is key to understanding how life-fostering environments come into being and how likely they are to be found elsewhere. New work from a team, including Carnegie’s Conel Alexander, found that much of our solar system’s water likely originated as ices that formed in interstellar space."
Earth’s water is older than the Sun





Did you know this before?

And...if it is 'news,' how does it fit with what you have been taught?



And another piece of evidence falls into place about the verity of the Bible.....

 

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May be time to revise some of that 'common knowledge'...


9. "....the Big Bang claims the Sun came before the Earth while the Bible says the Sun wasn’t created until the fourth day. Now a team of scientists have discovered the Bible’s account is true. The Earth’s water is older than the Sun, according to their report in the September 26th issue of Science.


The fact that “[w]ater is found throughout our Solar System” is stated several times in the Bible starting in Genesis 1. The conclusion of their study that the Earth’s water is older than the Sun .... They hypothesize Earth’s water came from interstellar ices.


The Bible says the “heaven and the earth” were formed simultaneously on the first day and soon afterwards on the same day God divided the waters under the firmament (Earth’s atmosphere) from the waters above the firmament. The waters above the firmament (in outer space) account for their interstellar ices and were made by God simultaneously with Earth’s water. But that is something they may discover later as they stumble about trying to avoid the Bible’s truths."
Scientists: Earth’s water older than Sun. Big Bang theory bites the dust




"If, as many people believe, the sun is older than the earth, then the sun has existed longer than the earth, and if the Bible says it has not, then the Bible would be wrong."
According to the bible, God created earth before our sun. How would you justify that? That sounds illogical.


Turns out, the 'many people' are wrong.