A Conservative Third Party Movement?

[Tech_Esq]

It has not been "debunked". But if you keep saying it, maybe it will be true. Her husband was a fucking card carrying member of the AIP. Fact!!!

See my other post for source documents.

If Obama meeting with Bill Ayers when he was 7 is a big deal, Todd being a member of the AIP and Sarah speaking to them is a bombshell.

Your timelines are so screwed up, it's hard to know where to start. Obama had a 20 year relationship with Ayers. Including being chosen by Ayers to give away $50 million in grant money to support activism in school education.

Sarah spoke at the AKIP convention as a Republican candidate for Governor. Why they let her do it seems a little weird but as a candidate, you'll speak in front of any large group. I'm sure Obama would have spoke to the Repub convention if they'd have let him.

And the founder of the AIP told the Palin's to run as GOP because thats the only way they'll get er done. What do they want done? They want to succeed from the United States.

Utter bullshit. Even a cursory examination of the record would tell you that the Alaska Independence Party had a member elected governor in 1990. There is no reason to believe they would tell people to run as something else to get elected.

And Paul is not a conspiracy theorist. You just don't believe what he is telling you because you are a sheeple American.

RP looks too much like Frasier's dad. I can't get past it.

 

[Skull Pilot]

No. Todd would be in the Alaska Governors office doing official business. He had no title. Only husband to the Governor. Yet he would call around bossing people around telling them what to do.

So much different than Hillary or Michelle I suppose.

I heard Todd tells Sarah what to do on policy issues. She's just the pretty face who ran for the position. He's the brains. And that's not saying much.

Ohhhh you heard I guess that makes it 100% irrefutably true.

Be honest, Sarah was/is really dumb. You tried to elect a fucking idiot! Shows you how much respect you have for the Presidency.

And no wonder government doesn't work when you keep voting for people who are idiots and/or enemies of government.

I never said she wasn't dumb, And I didn't try to get her elected as I did not vote Repudlican.

Government doesn't work because we keep voting for the same crooked lying sack o' shit politicians we always do.

 

[sealybobo]

Certainly if oil companies are guilty of "excessive profits" then our government is just as guilty of excessive taxation.

53 billion

No shit. The Federal Reserve loves it too! They take all of our income taxes and apply it to the interest on the national debt. That's all we pay down.

Its like we max out our credit card but only send in the minimum monthly payments.

So the more we go into debt, the more the bankers that own the Federal Reserve own us/this country.

I would love to do away with the Federal Reserve. The Democrats have proposed buying it back from the bankers. I doubt the rich will give it back. This is how the OWN our country.

I hope we just take it back. Pay China what we owe them, but fuck the Federal Reserve. Fuck the interest we owe. But I get the feeling they would crash the entire global economy if we ever tried.

Here is one thing that needs to be socialized.

 

[sealybobo]

Government doesn't work because we keep voting for the same crooked lying sack o' shit politicians we always do.

Not me. I voted Democratic.

And I don't see Obama as a POS. Not yet anyways. Funny how now I look at Clinton with a little distrust.

But remember, I only disapprove of Bill when he was going along with the GOP on right wing things, like NAFTA and Deregulations.

So the only time I don't like Dems is when they act like REPS.

They should work for us, not the corporations.

And maybe the corporations need to stop looking for handouts and entitlements and tax breaks.

 

[Tech_Esq]

I already told you, Todd was the one who joined. And since he pulls Sarah's strings, and she speaks to the AIP, I don't care if she is a registered member.

So are you saying you were staying at their house like Kato or is there some link you would like to sight for the personal interaction of the couple? Just on a factual basis, how does he pull her strings when he's off on a commercial fishing vessel for months at time or off on the North Slope drilling for oil for months at a time. I'd say, you're full of shit without any backup.

Do you know I am not a registered Democrat? Doesn't mean I am not a Democrat. I just never registered.

Whatever. Is that supposed to mean something or did you just type a random thought that ran through your head?

And I told you what the founder of the AIP said. He said, "we have to run our members as Democrats &/or Republicans if we are going to get anything done. So basically, Sarah is a spy.

Did you read this on some kind of talking points web site? Like I posted above, the AKIP had a member elected governor in 1990, so the chances that he said anything like that, pretty slim. AKIP is not a little fringe group in AK.

Just look at how mavericky she got with the McCain campaign. She was a rogue agent. Dude, wake the hell up. She would take Alaska & make herself president if she could.

What in the hell is "mavericky" I here Dems use this "word" all the time. Does this mean something to you? It sure doesn't to me.

My eyes are wide open. I want you to tell me where she's going to "take Alaska?" Do you suppose she'll attempt to hide it once she gets it there? How long have you been having these thoughts? Don't most successful politicians aspire to be president?

But please nominate her again in 4 years. Please!

If she runs, I know someone that will work for her in Virginia.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Not me. I voted Democratic.

And I don't see Obama as a POS. Not yet anyways. Funny how now I look at Clinton with a little distrust.

But remember, I only disapprove of Bill when he was going along with the GOP on right wing things, like NAFTA and Deregulations.

So the only time I don't like Dems is when they act like REPS.

They should work for us, not the corporations.

And maybe the corporations need to stop looking for handouts and entitlements and tax breaks.

And maybe the dimocrats should stop voting for bail outs

 

[Tech_Esq]

No shit. The Federal Reserve loves it too! They take all of our income taxes and apply it to the interest on the national debt. That's all we pay down.

Its like we max out our credit card but only send in the minimum monthly payments.

So the more we go into debt, the more the bankers that own the Federal Reserve own us/this country.

I would love to do away with the Federal Reserve. The Democrats have proposed buying it back from the bankers. I doubt the rich will give it back. This is how the OWN our country.

I hope we just take it back. Pay China what we owe them, but fuck the Federal Reserve. Fuck the interest we owe. But I get the feeling they would crash the entire global economy if we ever tried.

Here is one thing that needs to be socialized.

We'll just pull a Brazil. "Sorry, no can pay. See you later!"

Sure everyone was pissed for a while, but they got over it.

 

[Tech_Esq]

No. Todd would be in the Alaska Governors office doing official business. He had no title. Only husband to the Governor. Yet he would call around bossing people around telling them what to do.

So much different than Hillary or Michelle I suppose.

I heard Todd tells Sarah what to do on policy issues. She's just the pretty face who ran for the position. He's the brains. And that's not saying much.

Be honest, Sarah was/is really dumb. You tried to elect a fucking idiot! Shows you how much respect you have for the Presidency.

And no wonder government doesn't work when you keep voting for people who are idiots and/or enemies of government.

Like Hillary didn't ask for all those FBI files. Like Hillary didn't have the White House Travel Office fired. Like Hillary didn't say "buy one, get two." Like Hillary didn't just use her years in the White House as "First Lady" to support her candidacy. Like she didn't set up secret health care meetings and try to get "Hillary care" sold to Congress.

Geez, just tell us anything.

 

[sealybobo]

And maybe the dimocrats should stop voting for bail outs

Since you at least admit that "all" politicians are liars/crooks/dishonest, then I hope you will take a long hard look at that bank bailout.

Who did it benefit? It benefitted the richest bankers in the world. No one else. They didn't loan any of it out. They bought up other banks.

And had the Democrats not given bush the money, they would have crashed the economy.

Are the dems in on it? I don't know.

But you know that bailout was nothing more than the biggest bank robbery in US history. Where the bank owners robbed the treasury.

It wasn't enough Bush bankrupted us with $10 billion a month iraq spending, they actually planned a last minute $750 billion THEFT right before Bush left office.

U.S. Banks Refuse to Detail How They’re Spending Federal Bailout Money
U.S. Banks Refuse to Detail How They're Spending Federal Bailout Money

I sure hope the Dems look into this. The GOP sure won't. Sure the dems gave Bush and the bankers the money, or else, but look what Bush/Paulson & the rich bankers are doing with the money. Stupid.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Then why did the R voters not flock to Paul?

If the media had called Barack Obama a kook, laughed whenever his ideas were brought up, laughed whenever his name was brought up, barely covered him, didn't invite him to one of the debates, and then ignored him even worse when it was down to just him and Hillary then he wouldn't have won anything either.

Despite that, Ron Paul still got over 1 million votes nationwide. That wasn't just from Republicans either, he pulled in new voters, independents, Libertarians, and even Democrats. That is what the Republican Party needs, but apparently not what it wants.

 

[sealybobo]

I just don't understand why the Conservatives haven't got up an anti-government movement. The circus has left town here, but a permanent third party of Conservatives preaching--literally!--that people should not have medicare, Socialist Security, funding for local projects, NASA and all those other government programs would be a hoot. The exception of course would be the increased military spending.

Why can't Conservatives do this? That Palin clown could be the leader of the party, with Rush Limpdick as a sound board for them to abolish all government spending not related to making more wars.

Why not?

I got this email from a Conservative:

Conservatism's dilemma: To be or not to be in the GOP
American Thinker – After the presidency of George W. Bush, most conservatives are fed up with the GOP – and here, Larrey Anderson asks the question on many of our minds: Should conservatives even be in the Republican Party at all? Anderson concludes that conservatives need the GOP, but Republicans need us more – and we should take certain steps to make sure they know it.

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