A comprehensive list of accomplishments made by Obama as of 12/12

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    Hopefully this list will at least convince you skeptics that he is at least a decent president. Maybe not good, but decent. Basically, I'm tired of hearing he's "done nothing".

    The Democratic Republican: List of President Obama's Accomplishments

    I understand it's a "blogspot" site, but each accomplishment listed cites an outside source. If they didn't, I wouldn't have bothered posting this.

    EDIT: Oops I meant to say 12/11 in my title!
     
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    Should I take them all on, or would a single debunking work for all of them?

    The one that got my attention was the pay freeze for White House staff on his first day in office. The White House never claimed to freeze the pay of all staff members, the order just froze the pay of those making over $100,000. That proves that the claim made by your blog, despite the fact that it links to outside sources, is erroneous, because not everyone got a pay freeze. MAybe you should do a little rudimentary research before you post a link.

    Now, let us see how effective that pay freeze actually was. If we look at the actual numbers from 2009 andhttp://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/disclosures/annual-records/2010 we see that an astounding 75% of the staffers actually got a pay raise during the year that they pay was frozen.

    I don't know about you, or anyone else, but, if this is typical of his accomplishments, I am not impressed.

    For the record, I think that the pay freeze example is typical of Obama's accomplishments. Feel free toprovide actual links to government sources, like I did, to prove me wrong.
     
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    Yes, Windbag, take them all on. I'd be fascinated to see it.

    The one accomplishment you decided to discuss was the pay freezes in the White House? Are you kidding me? That's all you have to say about the entire list?

    I think you were impressed with many of these accomplishments, (assuming you actually read the entire list) but you would never admit it on this board.
     
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    The point was that, since the pay freeze was bunk, I can assume everything is bunk. Prove me wrong.
     
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    Obviously, the move was to save money. It worked considering 25% didn't see a pay increase. Either way, this one fact is so insignificant in comparison to the list itself and you know it.
     
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    And neither does the link in the OP.

    Which is exactly what the link provided evidence for.

    Here is what the OP link says.


    It does not say all staff members. You made that up. The link is very clear that the "pay freeze affects the roughly 100 White House employees who make more than $100,000 a year."
     
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    You have not proven anything is bunk.
     
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    That was funny. A pay freeze that encompasses 100% of the personnel in the White House, which is what you claimed, would result in 100% of them not getting raises in the first year, not 25%. You really have a major problem with math, don't you? I remember your thread where you thought that Obama telling the truth 25% of the time made him an honest man.

    By the way, the argument behind the pay freeze was to reduce the deficit, not save money. Can you point out how well that worked out again?
     
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    I made nothing up, the blog clearly said that Obama froze White House salaries, not the salaries of those making over $100,000. You even quoted it for me, which makes you argument that I made it up really stupid.
     
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    You must have missed the links to the White House reports that proved that 75% of staffers got a raise.
     

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