A Comment On Wall Street 'Protests'

[PoliticalChic]

"My take is that we shouldn't envy what others have and try to demonize successful people. We just need to work hard so we can aspire to succeed. We're in the greatest country in the world. There are no shackles holding us down. The only shackles that prevent us from succeeding is the thought that other people are responsible for our own failures.

A quick message to everyone who supports this "occupy wall street" movement protesting corporations:


- throw away your ipods, ipads, and ibooks. those products are made by one of the wealthiest and most successful corporations in the world.
- stop organizing your events on facebook and twitter, and delete your accounts. yeah, those guys are rich too.
- make sure your pants don't say levi, express, old navy, etc.
- be sure to read your pamphlets by candle light and get rid of all your light bulbs because they're made by corporations. oh, and don't get your candles from yankee candle co. they're evil, right?
- get rid of your corporate made car. buy a bike... but not scwhinn. er, actually you should ride a horse or walk. but make sure your shoes don't say nike.
- sit on the floor instead of a chair. your seat could be made by ikea or laz-e-boy. oh, and make sure you don't sit on a floor manufactured by tile corporations or lumber companies. they're probably evil too.
- throw away your michael moore dvd collection. he's actually one of the biggest capitalists in hollywood. you don't even have a TV anyway, right? those are made by corporations.
- get rid of your fancy shmancy smart phone. you'll never guess this, but it was made by a corporation too. you don't need txting or the internet! those things are fueled by corporate funding.
- call out your favorite bands, like radio head, for using fender or gibson guitars. make sure they use non-corporate instruments while they spread their propag.. er, message.
- no more stoves or microwaves.
- no more ramen noodles or mac 'n cheese. there goes your cheap meals.
- no more video games.
- no more cameras to capture your revolution.
- no more books.
- no more gps.
- no more jon stewart.
- no more weekend at the movies.
- no more farms.
- no more radio.
- no more electricity.
- no more AC or heat. unless, of course you burn wood. but then you're destroying the ozone layer.

and if you happen to think it irony [or poetic justice] to use the tools made by the corporations to protest the system, i disagree. it's just plain hypocrisy."

Wish I could take credit for this, but it was in my morn emails....

 

[Claudette]

Yep.

Why are these idiots on Wall St. anyway.

They should be in DC where the laws, regs and oversite originate.

Any idea which left wing groups are behind this??

 

[Sallow]

"My take is that we shouldn't envy what others have and try to demonize successful people. We just need to work hard so we can aspire to succeed. We're in the greatest country in the world. There are no shackles holding us down. The only shackles that prevent us from succeeding is the thought that other people are responsible for our own failures.

A quick message to everyone who supports this "occupy wall street" movement protesting corporations:


- throw away your ipods, ipads, and ibooks. those products are made by one of the wealthiest and most successful corporations in the world.
- stop organizing your events on facebook and twitter, and delete your accounts. yeah, those guys are rich too.
- make sure your pants don't say levi, express, old navy, etc.
- be sure to read your pamphlets by candle light and get rid of all your light bulbs because they're made by corporations. oh, and don't get your candles from yankee candle co. they're evil, right?
- get rid of your corporate made car. buy a bike... but not scwhinn. er, actually you should ride a horse or walk. but make sure your shoes don't say nike.
- sit on the floor instead of a chair. your seat could be made by ikea or laz-e-boy. oh, and make sure you don't sit on a floor manufactured by tile corporations or lumber companies. they're probably evil too.
- throw away your michael moore dvd collection. he's actually one of the biggest capitalists in hollywood. you don't even have a TV anyway, right? those are made by corporations.
- get rid of your fancy shmancy smart phone. you'll never guess this, but it was made by a corporation too. you don't need txting or the internet! those things are fueled by corporate funding.
- call out your favorite bands, like radio head, for using fender or gibson guitars. make sure they use non-corporate instruments while they spread their propag.. er, message.
- no more stoves or microwaves.
- no more ramen noodles or mac 'n cheese. there goes your cheap meals.
- no more video games.
- no more cameras to capture your revolution.
- no more books.
- no more gps.
- no more jon stewart.
- no more weekend at the movies.
- no more farms.
- no more radio.
- no more electricity.
- no more AC or heat. unless, of course you burn wood. but then you're destroying the ozone layer.

and if you happen to think it irony [or poetic justice] to use the tools made by the corporations to protest the system, i disagree. it's just plain hypocrisy."

Wish I could take credit for this, but it was in my morn emails....

Almost each and every one of those products you mentioned originated in a government lab or was part of a government/private partnership.

So tax-payers are funding wealth. Nothing wrong with people getting rich. There is something wrong when they are not equitably sharing profit.

Even "Kraft" cheese didn't become a super duper corporation on thier own. They got a contract during WWII from the government.

 

[California Girl]

Yep.

Why are these idiots on Wall St. anyway.

They should be in DC where the laws, regs and oversite originate.

Any idea which left wing groups are behind this??

Van, Watermelon Man, Jones.

 

[Toro]

I would differentiate between those who make things and those who trade things.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Yep.

Why are these idiots on Wall St. anyway.

They should be in DC where the laws, regs and oversite originate.

Any idea which left wing groups are behind this??

I just added an OP on that subject, exactly!

 

[PoliticalChic]

"My take is that we shouldn't envy what others have and try to demonize successful people. We just need to work hard so we can aspire to succeed. We're in the greatest country in the world. There are no shackles holding us down. The only shackles that prevent us from succeeding is the thought that other people are responsible for our own failures.

A quick message to everyone who supports this "occupy wall street" movement protesting corporations:


- throw away your ipods, ipads, and ibooks. those products are made by one of the wealthiest and most successful corporations in the world.
- stop organizing your events on facebook and twitter, and delete your accounts. yeah, those guys are rich too.
- make sure your pants don't say levi, express, old navy, etc.
- be sure to read your pamphlets by candle light and get rid of all your light bulbs because they're made by corporations. oh, and don't get your candles from yankee candle co. they're evil, right?
- get rid of your corporate made car. buy a bike... but not scwhinn. er, actually you should ride a horse or walk. but make sure your shoes don't say nike.
- sit on the floor instead of a chair. your seat could be made by ikea or laz-e-boy. oh, and make sure you don't sit on a floor manufactured by tile corporations or lumber companies. they're probably evil too.
- throw away your michael moore dvd collection. he's actually one of the biggest capitalists in hollywood. you don't even have a TV anyway, right? those are made by corporations.
- get rid of your fancy shmancy smart phone. you'll never guess this, but it was made by a corporation too. you don't need txting or the internet! those things are fueled by corporate funding.
- call out your favorite bands, like radio head, for using fender or gibson guitars. make sure they use non-corporate instruments while they spread their propag.. er, message.
- no more stoves or microwaves.
- no more ramen noodles or mac 'n cheese. there goes your cheap meals.
- no more video games.
- no more cameras to capture your revolution.
- no more books.
- no more gps.
- no more jon stewart.
- no more weekend at the movies.
- no more farms.
- no more radio.
- no more electricity.
- no more AC or heat. unless, of course you burn wood. but then you're destroying the ozone layer.

and if you happen to think it irony [or poetic justice] to use the tools made by the corporations to protest the system, i disagree. it's just plain hypocrisy."

Wish I could take credit for this, but it was in my morn emails....

Almost each and every one of those products you mentioned originated in a government lab or was part of a government/private partnership.

So tax-payers are funding wealth. Nothing wrong with people getting rich. There is something wrong when they are not equitably sharing profit.

Even "Kraft" cheese didn't become a super duper corporation on thier own. They got a contract during WWII from the government.

Links?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I would differentiate between those who make things and those who trade things.

So? What's the difference?

 

[Ravi]

Just for once I'd like to open a PC thread and find her actual thoughts instead of someone else's.

 

[peach174]

Yep.

Why are these idiots on Wall St. anyway.

They should be in DC where the laws, regs and oversite originate.

Any idea which left wing groups are behind this??

Van, Watermelon Man, Jones.

Yep Van Jones, Zuckerberg , Sorrros ,and Piven.
These protester's are against the top 1% earners and yet the leaders of this movement are the top 1% earners. Sorros and Zuckerberg.
Talk about mindless robots.

 

[Dragon]

Yep.

Why are these idiots on Wall St. anyway.

They should be in DC where the laws, regs and oversite originate.

One of the things being protested is the excessive influence of big business on the government. So Wall Street is just as appropriate a venue as Washington. However, don't worry, as this grows I'm sure D.C. won't be neglected.

Any idea which left wing groups are behind this??

All of them, if not now, then soon.

 

[California Girl]

Yep.

Why are these idiots on Wall St. anyway.

They should be in DC where the laws, regs and oversite originate.

One of the things being protested is the excessive influence of big business on the government. So Wall Street is just as appropriate a venue as Washington. However, don't worry, as this grows I'm sure D.C. won't be neglected.

Any idea which left wing groups are behind this??

All of them, if not now, then soon.

Could you, for the benefit of the conservatives, outline what the economic impacts of their 11 demands would be?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

"My take is that we shouldn't envy what others have and try to demonize successful people. We just need to work hard so we can aspire to succeed. We're in the greatest country in the world. There are no shackles holding us down. The only shackles that prevent us from succeeding is the thought that other people are responsible for our own failures.

A quick message to everyone who supports this "occupy wall street" movement protesting corporations:


- throw away your ipods, ipads, and ibooks. those products are made by one of the wealthiest and most successful corporations in the world.
- stop organizing your events on facebook and twitter, and delete your accounts. yeah, those guys are rich too.
- make sure your pants don't say levi, express, old navy, etc.
- be sure to read your pamphlets by candle light and get rid of all your light bulbs because they're made by corporations. oh, and don't get your candles from yankee candle co. they're evil, right?
- get rid of your corporate made car. buy a bike... but not scwhinn. er, actually you should ride a horse or walk. but make sure your shoes don't say nike.
- sit on the floor instead of a chair. your seat could be made by ikea or laz-e-boy. oh, and make sure you don't sit on a floor manufactured by tile corporations or lumber companies. they're probably evil too.
- throw away your michael moore dvd collection. he's actually one of the biggest capitalists in hollywood. you don't even have a TV anyway, right? those are made by corporations.
- get rid of your fancy shmancy smart phone. you'll never guess this, but it was made by a corporation too. you don't need txting or the internet! those things are fueled by corporate funding.
- call out your favorite bands, like radio head, for using fender or gibson guitars. make sure they use non-corporate instruments while they spread their propag.. er, message.
- no more stoves or microwaves.
- no more ramen noodles or mac 'n cheese. there goes your cheap meals.
- no more video games.
- no more cameras to capture your revolution.
- no more books.
- no more gps.
- no more jon stewart.
- no more weekend at the movies.
- no more farms.
- no more radio.
- no more electricity.
- no more AC or heat. unless, of course you burn wood. but then you're destroying the ozone layer.

and if you happen to think it irony [or poetic justice] to use the tools made by the corporations to protest the system, i disagree. it's just plain hypocrisy."

....i.e.....

"WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

The KIDS are havin' too-much-fun.....and, I'M not part-of-it, AGAIN!!!!!!"

*The YUPPIE Lament*​

 

[Dragon]

Could you, for the benefit of the conservatives, outline what the economic impacts of their 11 demands would be?

No, because those "11 demands" are either one person's opinion, neither shared by nor on behalf of most of the protesters, or else a hoax. They are not real. They are bogus.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Yep.

Why are these idiots on Wall St. anyway.

They should be in DC where the laws, regs and oversite originate.

Any idea which left wing groups are behind this??

Van, Watermelon Man, Jones.

Aw, jeez.....

.....a Rick Perry fan.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Gawd some ppl will defend anything because they don't like the opposition. Wall street is part of the problem that took down the housing market. To pretend that Wall Street is all middle class workers is disingenuous at least and a lie at most.

 

[peach174]

We are not defending Wall St.
Wall St needs some rules and certain regulations done.
It's Marxism and communism that we are against and that is what the protesters are for.
It was socialism that started this whole mess with the Dem's wanting the poor to own homes of which they could not afford and Not regulating Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Gawd some ppl will defend anything because they don't like the opposition. Wall street is part of the problem that took down the housing market. To pretend that Wall Street is all middle class workers is disingenuous at least and a lie at most.

While it certainly is a moot point as to whether or not this thread is a defense of Wall Street, there certainly is a modicum of truth in your statement that "Wall street is part of the problem that took down the housing market"...

Shall we lay the major part of the blame where it belongs?

Why, certainly.


Whether out of good intentions, or, as I believe, with the intention of control of the economy and increasing the size of government, it was Liberal-Progressive-Democrat apparachiks who lit the fuse on the mortgage meltdown bomb.

While Hoover had the inspiration, it was Democrat FDR in 1938 who instituted the GSE's Fannie and Freddie...Democrat Carter who authorized the CRA in 1979...Democrat Clinton and Democrat Cuomo in HUD who pushed government meddling in the housing market...
and Democrats Dodd, Frank, etc who wouldn't allow reformation....

Here, let's review from a recent book review:

1. 'In “Reckless Endangerment,” Gretchen Morgenson and Joshua Rosner argue that cozy connections between government and the financial industry were the primary cause of the financial crisis. In a series of clearly written narratives with many names, dates and figures, they show that government officials took actions that benefited well-connected individuals, who in turn helped the government officials. This mutual support system thwarted good economic policies and encouraged reckless ones. It thereby brought on the crisis, sending the economy into a tailspin.'
‘Reckless Endangerment’ by Gretchen Morgenson and Joshua Rosner - The Washington Post

2. By Gretchen Morgenson, one of America’s best business journalists who is currently at The New York Times, and noted financial analyst Joshua Rosner, Reckless Endangerment gives the best available account of how the growing chaos in the mortgage and personal finance markets and the rampant bundling of dubious loans into exotically toxic securities plunged the world, and millions of American families, into the gravest financial crisis since World War Two.

3. The villains? An unholy alliance between Wall Street, the Democratic establishment, community organizing groups like ACORN and La Raza, and politicians like Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi and Henry Cisneros. (Frank got a cushy job for a lover, Pelosi got a job and layoff protection for a son, Cisneros apparently got a license to mint money bilking Mexican-Americans of their life savings in cheesy housing developments.)

4. ..., the American dream didn’t die of old age; it was murdered and most of the fingerprints on the corpse come from Democratic insiders. Democratic power brokers stoked the housing bubble and turned a blind eye to the increasingly rampant corruption and incompetence at Fannie Mae and the associated predatory lenders who sheltered under its umbrella; core Democratic ideas may well be at fault.

5. . Big government, affirmative action and influence peddling among Democratic insiders came within inches of smashing the US economy.

6. . The Great Villain, the man who almost ruined America according to the book, is James Johnson, long one of the most important members of the Democratic establishment. ...Barack Obama, impressed by this track record of discernment, reportedly asked him to lead Obama’s search in 2008 ..."
Fanniegate: Gamechanger For The GOP? | Via Meadia


So,...do we agree the "Occupy Wall Street" should be "Occupy Democrat Headquarters"?
Good.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Just for once I'd like to open a PC thread and find her actual thoughts instead of someone else's.

Are the words too large for you?

1. I look forward to posts such as yours, as they allow what our President refers to as ‘a teachable moment.”
I would thank you for the opportunity, but, of course, the fortuity was inadvertent on your part….You didn’t realize the ignorance you were revealing, did you?

a. You see, one who has been exposed to learning will often see the value of providing points of view from one with status or expertise in the area under discussion. And, in my view, to provide same without my words, adds the impact for which I strive.

b. Citing an authority with an established reputation is better, of course, than citing someone whose credentials are not so lofty. (http://www.ccc.commnet.edu/mla/practical_guide.shtml)

c. Now, here’s where you come in: “A valid objection to this selection of sources may be the type of audience being addressed. Is the ‘pasted selection’ aimed at a specialized or a general audience? Do you find the level ‘over your head’ or is this source too elementary?” http://www.library.cornell.edu/olinuris/ref/research/skill26.htm#LinkReason)

2. Further, my posts, which you attempt to characterize in a pejorative manner, are perfect for the political nature of the USMB…as they represent an aspect of diversity which adds vitality to the board. Surely you notice that some post are clever, funny and witty, some bark and bawl, erupt in rage and bile, some are data and information-based.

a. Your reason for posting, it seems, is akin to the reasons you hung out in the little girls bathroom in middle school, and require just as much effort: you mumble a few inconsequential utterances.

b. So, you see, each of us works to ability!

 

[Sallow]

Yep.

Why are these idiots on Wall St. anyway.

They should be in DC where the laws, regs and oversite originate.

Any idea which left wing groups are behind this??

Van, Watermelon Man, Jones.

Precious. Really.