A call for some Agreement & Unity....maybe.....

[bripat9643]

since when is a war an excuse for tyranny?

why do you hate freedom?

Well, then, I feel real bad for you.......I'm both free and don't believe that I'm under any tyrannical rule.........Sorry about the fact that you feel you're in chains and restricted to some cell......Maybe parole soon?

You're about as free as a canary in a cage. You're free to do what the government tells you to do.

 

[nat4900]

Of course, that's all bullshit. Oil Change International is a leftist propaganda organ. Its credibility is zero.

uhmmmmm, yeah, sure......

 

[bripat9643]

Congressional Republicans—who once voted unanimously to retain oil tax breaks now seem to be backing off their defense of the indefensible. Both House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) and Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-WI) have said, albeit in vague terms, that they now support rolling back oil and gas tax subsidies. A growing number of rank-and-file Republicans have echoed these comments.

There are no oil and gas tax subsidies, Nimrod. Whenever you turds are asked to name them, you come up with zip.

 

[bripat9643]

Of course, that's all bullshit. Oil Change International is a leftist propaganda organ. Its credibility is zero.

uhmmmmm, yeah, sure......

Yes, it's 100% true.

 

[nat4900]

You're about as free as a canary in a cage. You're free to do what the government tells you to do.

well, I'm free to mop the floor with you on this forum.

(now, watch this dingbat go ballistic, curse, threaten, smear, cry to his mommy...while I laugh at him.)

 

[bripat9643]

Under current regulations, coal companies pay royalties on the first sale to another company after mining coal on federal land. The coal then can be bought and sold multiple times until it reaches a final destination and is sold to an end user, such as a power plant where it is burned for electricity. By building up hundreds of subsidiaries, coal companies have been able to sell to their own companies and partners, allegedly paying royalties based on an artificially low sale price. The CAP analysis presents evidence that captive transactions are common practice in the coal industry and regularly exploited to evade royalty payments and maximize subsidies.

Reducing your taxes is not a subsidy, moron. You can argue they aren't paying their share of taxes, but you can't call that a subsidy.

 

[bripat9643]

You're about as free as a canary in a cage. You're free to do what the government tells you to do.

well, I'm free to mop the floor with you on this forum.

(now, watch this dingbat go ballistic, curse, threaten, smear, cry to his mommy...while I laugh at him.)

ROFL! You have a vivid imagination.

 

[Avatar4321]

Thought about everything he has done. Can't think of one thing that he did to benefit this nation. Crappy legacy isn't it?

 

[Avatar4321]

Thought about everything he has done. Can't think of one thing that he did to benefit this nation. Crappy legacy isn't it?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Nuclear receives subsidies because of the cold war. Coal and oil don't. That's liberal propaganda.

As of July 2014, Oil Change International estimates U.S. fossil fuel subsidies at $37.5 billion annually, including $21 billion in production and exploration subsidies.

Coal subsidies in the Energy Policy Act of 2005 amount to over $11 billion.

As of July 2014, Oil Change International estimates U.S. fossil fuel subsidies at $37.5 billion annually, including $21 billion in production and exploration subsidies.

I estimate Oil Change International is 100% full of shit.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Under current regulations, coal companies pay royalties on the first sale to another company after mining coal on federal land. The coal then can be bought and sold multiple times until it reaches a final destination and is sold to an end user, such as a power plant where it is burned for electricity. By building up hundreds of subsidiaries, coal companies have been able to sell to their own companies and partners, allegedly paying royalties based on an artificially low sale price. The CAP analysis presents evidence that captive transactions are common practice in the coal industry and regularly exploited to evade royalty payments and maximize subsidies.

Reducing your taxes is not a subsidy, moron. You can argue they aren't paying their share of taxes, but you can't call that a subsidy.

Hmm.....

1. DEFINITION of 'Subsidy' A benefit given by the government to groups or individuals usually in the form of a cash payment or taxreduction. The subsidy is usually given to remove some type of burden and is often considered to be in the interest of the public.

Subsidy Definition Investopedia

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Under current regulations, coal companies pay royalties on the first sale to another company after mining coal on federal land. The coal then can be bought and sold multiple times until it reaches a final destination and is sold to an end user, such as a power plant where it is burned for electricity. By building up hundreds of subsidiaries, coal companies have been able to sell to their own companies and partners, allegedly paying royalties based on an artificially low sale price. The CAP analysis presents evidence that captive transactions are common practice in the coal industry and regularly exploited to evade royalty payments and maximize subsidies.

Reducing your taxes is not a subsidy, moron. You can argue they aren't paying their share of taxes, but you can't call that a subsidy.

Hmm.....

1. DEFINITION of 'Subsidy' A benefit given by the government to groups or individuals usually in the form of a cash payment or taxreduction. The subsidy is usually given to remove some type of burden and is often considered to be in the interest of the public.

Subsidy Definition Investopedia

Cheating on your taxes is not a subsidy.

 

[nat4900]

I estimate Oil Change International is 100% full of shit.

An expected response from someone who has been exposed as spewing BS

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Under current regulations, coal companies pay royalties on the first sale to another company after mining coal on federal land. The coal then can be bought and sold multiple times until it reaches a final destination and is sold to an end user, such as a power plant where it is burned for electricity. By building up hundreds of subsidiaries, coal companies have been able to sell to their own companies and partners, allegedly paying royalties based on an artificially low sale price. The CAP analysis presents evidence that captive transactions are common practice in the coal industry and regularly exploited to evade royalty payments and maximize subsidies.

Reducing your taxes is not a subsidy, moron. You can argue they aren't paying their share of taxes, but you can't call that a subsidy.

Hmm.....

1. DEFINITION of 'Subsidy' A benefit given by the government to groups or individuals usually in the form of a cash payment or taxreduction. The subsidy is usually given to remove some type of burden and is often considered to be in the interest of the public.

Subsidy Definition Investopedia

Cheating on your taxes is not a subsidy.

Hmm...

Breaking It Down: Oil-Industry Tax Breaks
Breaking It Down Oil-Industry Tax Breaks - NationalJournal.com

 

[BluesLegend]

Look, my fellow posters, like it or not, President Obama will be sitting in the oval office for another 2 years.........That stated, there should be something, anything, that he must have done right for this country, don't you think?

So here's, the challenge to our right wing friends on this forum....."Can you sincerely and genuinely name THREE policies initiated by Obama that you would deem praiseworthy?

(In a show and spirit of bi-partisanship, I can readily praise GWB for his efforts and money allocated toward curbing the dreaded spread of the HIV in poor African countries.)

President Obama has many smaller achievements I as a conservative can praise. Oddly those things get pretty much zero press and recognition. The liberal media is nearly silent on this, start there.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Under current regulations, coal companies pay royalties on the first sale to another company after mining coal on federal land. The coal then can be bought and sold multiple times until it reaches a final destination and is sold to an end user, such as a power plant where it is burned for electricity. By building up hundreds of subsidiaries, coal companies have been able to sell to their own companies and partners, allegedly paying royalties based on an artificially low sale price. The CAP analysis presents evidence that captive transactions are common practice in the coal industry and regularly exploited to evade royalty payments and maximize subsidies.

Reducing your taxes is not a subsidy, moron. You can argue they aren't paying their share of taxes, but you can't call that a subsidy.

Hmm.....

1. DEFINITION of 'Subsidy' A benefit given by the government to groups or individuals usually in the form of a cash payment or taxreduction. The subsidy is usually given to remove some type of burden and is often considered to be in the interest of the public.

Subsidy Definition Investopedia

Cheating on your taxes is not a subsidy.

Hmm...

Breaking It Down: Oil-Industry Tax Breaks
Breaking It Down Oil-Industry Tax Breaks - NationalJournal.com

Thanks for the list of things that aren't subsidies.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I estimate Oil Change International is 100% full of shit.

An expected response from someone who has been exposed as spewing BS

Link?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Nuclear receives subsidies because of the cold war. Coal and oil don't. That's liberal propaganda.

As of July 2014, Oil Change International estimates U.S. fossil fuel subsidies at $37.5 billion annually, including $21 billion in production and exploration subsidies.

Coal subsidies in the Energy Policy Act of 2005 amount to over $11 billion.

How is it subsidized when the gov makes an average of 24 cents per gallon of gas?
Yet the oil companies make an average of 7 cents a gallon.

 

[bripat9643]

Under current regulations, coal companies pay royalties on the first sale to another company after mining coal on federal land. The coal then can be bought and sold multiple times until it reaches a final destination and is sold to an end user, such as a power plant where it is burned for electricity. By building up hundreds of subsidiaries, coal companies have been able to sell to their own companies and partners, allegedly paying royalties based on an artificially low sale price. The CAP analysis presents evidence that captive transactions are common practice in the coal industry and regularly exploited to evade royalty payments and maximize subsidies.

Reducing your taxes is not a subsidy, moron. You can argue they aren't paying their share of taxes, but you can't call that a subsidy.

Hmm.....

1. DEFINITION of 'Subsidy' A benefit given by the government to groups or individuals usually in the form of a cash payment or taxreduction. The subsidy is usually given to remove some type of burden and is often considered to be in the interest of the public.

Subsidy Definition Investopedia

Sorry, but that definition is just plain wrong. Tax cuts are not subsidies. They never have been.

 

[nat4900]

[/QUOTE]

How is it subsidized when the gov makes an average of 24 cents per gallon of gas?
Yet the oil companies make an average of 7 cents a gallon.[/QUOTE]

From Oil Change International.......
$331 billion is the profit made in 2013 by companies involved in extracting, transporting, refining, distributing and trading in fossil fuels. Despite these massive profits, the fossil fuel industry continues to receive tens of billions of dollars in subsidies every year at the expense of U.S. taxpayers. While these companies reap their benefits, communities across the country suffer the impacts of climate change, oil spills and water contamination from fracking, drilling and mining.