LilOlLady's Everlasting Gobstopper Illegal Immigration Thread

[rightwinger]

Shut up and cut my lawn

 

[Bullfighter]

Shut up and cut my lawn

Before you hire a Mexican, you must first negotiate the price through the Latino Union of Chicago.

Latino Union of Chicago $20,000
Project: Day Laborer Project 3rd Year
Issue Area: Workers
Since 2000, the Latino Union of Chicago has collaborated with
low-income immigrant workers from Albany Park, Pilsen,
Avondale, and Cicero to improve social and economic conditions.
Need: 1/3 of day laborers will experience serious injury this year
and at least 16% will be arrested while looking for work. Due to
the economic downturn, street corners and the Worker Center
have seen a drop in employment opportunities. Newspapers report
that 250,000 Latinos have lost jobs in the construction industry
alone. Accomplishments: In the past three years, the Albany
Park Worker’s Center has raised the median wage from $7/hour on
the street corner to $13/hour. A written contract at the Center has
eliminated wage theft for hired day laborers.

 

[LilOlLady]

Mexicans Facing Drug War Violence
Could Seek Political Asylum in U.S.
By Ed Barnes
The spreading violence of the drug wars along the Mexican border may have one unintended consequence. It could upend efforts to curb illegal immigrants by giving Mexican border-crossers a tool they never had before: a valid claim for political asylum.
FOXNews.com - Mexicans Facing Drug War Violence Could Seek Political Asylum in U.S.

 

[LilOlLady]

The are no Jobs Americans wont do, only wages Americans wont work for. These illegal workers drive the pay of whole industries down to the point where Most Americans can not live off of them.

Wages has not always been the issue. Some Amerians just want a job. Businesses prefer illegal because they can get more work out of them without them complaining and they are threatened with deportation. They will hire an illegal even if an American is applying.

 

[Angelhair]

Mexico is ripe for the taking.

 

[LilOlLady]

mexico is ripe for the taking.

for what? A nuclear waste dump site?

 

[LilOlLady]

OUR GOVERNMENT IS BROKEN.
If our gov’t enforced our immigration laws, border patrol agents would not be putting their lives on the line day and night chasing illegal aliens and smugglers. If there were no jobs for them, not automatic birthright citizenship for their children and no promise of amnesty they would not be crossing the border to get here leaving border patrol agents free to chase drug smugglers.
We do not need immigration reform which is nothing but amnesty and encourage more illegal immigration. Immigration Reform is just an prelude to doing away with immigration laws altogether?
TAKE THE KEYS AWAY FROM THE DEMOS IN NOVEMBER AND IN 2012.


AMNESTY means never having immigration enforcement!

 

[LilOlLady]

DIRTY HARRYand STUPID OBAMA
Trying to sneak amnesty into the defense bill under the disguise as the Dream Act. Does volunteering at the Boy’s Club or Food Bank count as service to your country? And Obama do not know the difference between “illegal aliens” and “American citizens.”

Take the keys to the country away from Reid and Obama before they give it away. Reid want to add more poverty to the country when Nevada has the highest rate of unemployment and the poverty level is 14%. What is wrong with this scenario?
Reid and Obama.

Obama do not know the difference between “illegal aliens” and “American citizens.” He say he got news for us, "there is no us and them, only us."

They figure if they legalize all the children, the parents will benefit with legalization also. Dream Act is back door amnesty, bypassing a path to citizenship.

Ilegal aliens are in this country illegally and we don't want them here or serving in the military. It is "unamerican." If they have a contribution to make, let them make it to Mexico who needs their help. Illegal aliens are a "liability" for this country and not an "asset."

It is time for illegal immigration to stop. Its time to bring back "Operation Wet Back."

Take the keys to the country away from Reid and Obama.

_______________________________________________________________

"Amnesty is never have to enforce our immigration laws."

 

[midcan5]

Some forget we are all immigrants, and most forget the father of the winguttery gave amnesty to illegals.

A Reagan Legacy: Amnesty For Illegal Immigrants : NPR

"In his renewed push for an immigration overhaul this week, President Obama called for Republican support for a bill to address the growing population of illegal immigrants in the country. This time, however, Republicans know better than to tread near the politically toxic A-word.

Part of this aversion is due to what is widely seen as the failure of Reagan's 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act. However, one of the lead authors of the bill says that unlike most immigration reform efforts of the past 20 years, amnesty wasn't the pitfall.

"We used the word 'legalization,' " former Wyoming Sen. Alan K. Simpson tells NPR's Guy Raz. "And everybody fell asleep lightly for a while, and we were able to do legalization."

The law granted amnesty to nearly 3 million illegal immigrants, yet was largely considered unsuccessful because the strict sanctions on employers were stripped out of the bill for passage. "

 

[AquaAthena]

DIRTY HARRYand STUPID OBAMA
Trying to sneak amnesty into the defense bill under the disguise as the Dream Act. Does volunteering at the Boy’s Club or Food Bank count as service to your country? And Obama do not know the difference between “illegal aliens” and “American citizens.”

Take the keys to the country away from Reid and Obama before they give it away. Reid want to add more poverty to the country when Nevada has the highest rate of unemployment and the poverty level is 14%. What is wrong with this scenario?
Reid and Obama.

Obama do not know the difference between “illegal aliens” and “American citizens.” He say he got news for us, "there is no us and them, only us."

They figure if they legalize all the children, the parents will benefit with legalization also. Dream Act is back door amnesty, bypassing a path to citizenship.

Ilegal aliens are in this country illegally and we don't want them here or serving in the military. It is "unamerican." If they have a contribution to make, let them make it to Mexico who needs their help. Illegal aliens are a "liability" for this country and not an "asset."

It is time for illegal immigration to stop. Its time to bring back "Operation Wet Back."

Take the keys to the country away from Reid and Obama.

_______________________________________________________________

"Amnesty is never have to enforce our immigration laws."

His last ditch political effort to get the Hispanic vote, before November. It's a ploy for attention and not expected to gain any ground.

 

[Bullfighter]

Some forget we are all immigrants, and most forget the father of the winguttery gave amnesty to illegals.

A Reagan Legacy: Amnesty For Illegal Immigrants : NPR

"In his renewed push for an immigration overhaul this week, President Obama called for Republican support for a bill to address the growing population of illegal immigrants in the country. This time, however, Republicans know better than to tread near the politically toxic A-word.

Part of this aversion is due to what is widely seen as the failure of Reagan's 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act. However, one of the lead authors of the bill says that unlike most immigration reform efforts of the past 20 years, amnesty wasn't the pitfall.

"We used the word 'legalization,' " former Wyoming Sen. Alan K. Simpson tells NPR's Guy Raz. "And everybody fell asleep lightly for a while, and we were able to do legalization."

The law granted amnesty to nearly 3 million illegal immigrants, yet was largely considered unsuccessful because the strict sanctions on employers were stripped out of the bill for passage. "

Former President Theodore Roosevelt in speaking to the largely Irish Catholic Knights of Columbus at Carnegie Hall on Columbus Day 1915, asserted that,[3]

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all... The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic... There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Woodrow Wilson regarded "hyphenated Americans" with suspicion, saying, "Any man who carries a hyphen about with him carries a dagger that he is ready to plunge into the vitals of this Republic whenever he gets ready."[4][5][6]

 

[LilOlLady]

THEY BROUGHT CHILDREN WITH THEM



Illegal aliens brought children with them when they crossed the border leaving family and friends behind and they could not speak English and we taught them English and they adjusted. Illegal aliens in this country can take their anchor babies with them when they are deported and they already speak Spanish and know the culture and they will adjust better than those children that crossed the border with their parents.



Luis Gutierrez: “We should not separate families.” We do not separate families when we enforce our immigration laws. Illegal aliens use that as a lame excuse and there is no excuse for them not to take their children with them.



It is not fair and it is wrong to allow those that enter the country illegally to be allow to remain ahead of those who have been waiting to enter legally. They need to go home and get in line behind those that are waiting.



Our immigration system is not broken but our government is and need fixing. And we do that by sending Reid and Obama home and tell Mexico and Luis Gutierrez to go to hell.

_______________________________________________

“Amnesty is never having to enforce our immigration laws.”

 

[LilOlLady]

Do you think he is serious about the Dream Act or is it just a plot? He got my attention because I will not vote for him and will vote for Angle just to vote against him.

 

[LilOlLady]

Some forget we are all immigrants, and most forget the father of the winguttery gave amnesty to illegals.

A Reagan Legacy: Amnesty For Illegal Immigrants : NPR

"In his renewed push for an immigration overhaul this week, President Obama called for Republican support for a bill to address the growing population of illegal immigrants in the country. This time, however, Republicans know better than to tread near the politically toxic A-word.

Part of this aversion is due to what is widely seen as the failure of Reagan's 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act. However, one of the lead authors of the bill says that unlike most immigration reform efforts of the past 20 years, amnesty wasn't the pitfall.

"We used the word 'legalization,' " former Wyoming Sen. Alan K. Simpson tells NPR's Guy Raz. "And everybody fell asleep lightly for a while, and we were able to do legalization."

The law granted amnesty to nearly 3 million illegal immigrants, yet was largely considered unsuccessful because the strict sanctions on employers were stripped out of the bill for passage. "

Former President Theodore Roosevelt in speaking to the largely Irish Catholic Knights of Columbus at Carnegie Hall on Columbus Day 1915, asserted that,[3]

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all... The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic... There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Woodrow Wilson regarded "hyphenated Americans" with suspicion, saying, "Any man who carries a hyphen about with him carries a dagger that he is ready to plunge into the vitals of this Republic whenever he gets ready."[4][5][6]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with hephenated Amercans. That is who we are and what is is. I am proud to be Native-American raised by a Afro-American family and do not want to give that up just for a name which does not change who I am. Afro-American is my culture. There is a reponsibility that comes with that.

 

[LilOlLady]

Some forget we are all immigrants, and most forget the father of the winguttery gave amnesty to illegals.

A Reagan Legacy: Amnesty For Illegal Immigrants : NPR

"In his renewed push for an immigration overhaul this week, President Obama called for Republican support for a bill to address the growing population of illegal immigrants in the country. This time, however, Republicans know better than to tread near the politically toxic A-word.

Part of this aversion is due to what is widely seen as the failure of Reagan's 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act. However, one of the lead authors of the bill says that unlike most immigration reform efforts of the past 20 years, amnesty wasn't the pitfall.

"We used the word 'legalization,' " former Wyoming Sen. Alan K. Simpson tells NPR's Guy Raz. "And everybody fell asleep lightly for a while, and we were able to do legalization."

The law granted amnesty to nearly 3 million illegal immigrants, yet was largely considered unsuccessful because the strict sanctions on employers were stripped out of the bill for passage. "

Former President Theodore Roosevelt in speaking to the largely Irish Catholic Knights of Columbus at Carnegie Hall on Columbus Day 1915, asserted that,[3]

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all... The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic... There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Woodrow Wilson regarded "hyphenated Americans" with suspicion, saying, "Any man who carries a hyphen about with him carries a dagger that he is ready to plunge into the vitals of this Republic whenever he gets ready."[4][5][6]

Woodrow Wilson was dead wrong.

 

[LilOlLady]

Then I would have to agree with Obama. There is no US and THEM only US.

 

[blu]

IMO it should be 50k an employee, it would stop employers from doing it and it would make the illegals go back home b/c they would have no where to work

 

[Charles_Main]

IMO it should be 50k an employee, it would stop employers from doing it and it would make the illegals go back home b/c they would have no where to work

I don't think monetary punishment is enough. Jail time is in order.

 

[Big Black Dog]

I think a week in jail and a $10,000 fine would be a good start for a first offense.

Maybe a month in jail and a $100,000 fine second time caught.

A year in jail and a $1,000,000 fine the third time.

Three strikes and you're "out".

 

[Zoom-boing]

Fines and jail time.