911 WTC 7 Silent Thermate Demolition, Debunkers Grab Your Ankles!

[KokomoJojo]

Exposed!

Let the sobbing begin and tears start to roll!








What is claimed is: 1. An apparatus for cutting a target material having a surface to be cut comprising:

cutting flame generating means disposed within said inner cavity;

activating means operatively associated with said cutting flame generating means to generate a cutting flame to cut said target material; and

wherein said apparatus is structured to be positioned a standoff distance from said surface of said target material when said apparatus is placed on said surface of said target material.

2. The apparatus of claim 1, wherein said cutting flame generating means has a thermite charge.

3. The apparatus of claim 2, wherein said thermite charge includes a powder comprising, by weight, about 15% to 20% aluminum, about 78% to 85% CuO, about 1% to 3% SiC, and about 0.2% to 4.0% nitrocellulose.

4. The apparatus of claim 3, wherein said thermite charge includes parts, by weight, about 16% to 18% aluminum, about 80% to 83% CuO, about 1% to 2% SiC, and about 0.5% to 2% nitrocellulose.

5. The apparatus of claim 1, further including a directional foil positioned in said elongated nozzle for focusing said cutting flame against said target material.



6. The apparatus of claim 1, wherein said inner cavity defines a generally cylindrical volume.

12. The apparatus of claim 1, wherein said inner cavity defines a predetermined volume to accommodate a sufficient amount of said cutting flame generating means to ensure effective cutting action on a particular thickness of target material.

17. The method of claim 16, wherein said positioning said cutting flame generating means includes placing a thermite charge in a charge tube and positioning said charge tube in said inner cavity of said housing.

25. An apparatus for cutting a target material having a surface to be cut comprising:
a second housing having a nozzle channel positionable opposite to said nozzle channel of said first housing to permit cutting of said material in two directions, said second housing being connected to said first housing; and
wherein said connection between said housings comprises a fixed connection and a pivotal connection between said housings.

29. The apparatus of claim 20, further including means disposed in said housing for electrically activating said cutting flame generating means.







so sit back folks and watch the plethora of debunking fabrications begin!



yes like that ^^^^^ LOL

 

[KokomoJojo]

now this is hilarious!

not even the debunker trolls want to stick their neck out on this one.

gotta love it when truthers present an unimpeachable case.

 

[Skylar]

So this is the ....third?... 'thermetic cutter' you've claimed was in common use? So far your record has been pretty abysmal. The 1984 'thermetic charge' you showed us turned out to be a low energy igniter.

Strike one.

The second, came 8 years after 911. Cause precedes effect. It doesn't follow it by 8 years.

Strike two.

And can you show us a single one of these devices ever used, ever made, ever tested? After all you said the technology had been in common use since the 1930s. Can you show us proof that this device even exists?

Show us a picture, a video of its use, and examples of it ever being used in controlled demolition. Or Its...

Strike Three.

But why not kick a dead horse, shall we?

1) You can't factually establish that any 'thermetic cutter' even exists. You've show us yet another drawing. Not an actual device.

2) You can't factually establish that if existing, it works as claimed. Patents require no proof of concept, no demonstration that the ideas described are viable or work in any way.

3) You can't factually establish that if existing and working as claimed, any where in the WTC 7. And your theory requires thousands.

4) Per your theory, there were thousands of such devices set across the entire building. There is zero chance that these devices would have gone unnoticed by the Port Authority bomb squad, the tenants of the building, those maintaining the building or those inspecting it.

Killing your conspiracy.

5) You said that the 'thermetic cutter' works in milliseconds. Your entire conspiracy depends on it. Nothing in that description indicates anything close to that speed. Killing your conspiracy a second time.

6) You said that the 'thermetic cutter' would disintegrate during use. Nothing in your description indicates it will disintegrate. Meaning that for your conspiracy to work, there would be thousands upon thousands of these devices on every girder supposedly 'cut'.

There were none. Absolutely destroying your conspiracy a third time.

7) Next, the building was on fire, with fire on virtually every floor. No apparatus of demolition would survive this. There would be no way to synchronize the charges, as any blasting wire or relay cables would have been destroyed. Relays would have melted, timers would have melted, receivers would have melted.

Worse, the charge describes nitrocellulose as part of its composition. Nitrocellulose (also known as gun cotton) is ridiculously flammable. Meaning that the charges would have burned from the inside out long before they would have ignited for demolition. The nitrocellulose also acts as a binding agent for shaped thermite charges. So the charge would have fallen apart as the binding agent burned.

The conventional fuse described by the patent was fuse 26 available from Pyrofuse Corporation. That fuse works electrically, requiring connection to output terminals. All of which would have melted in the huge building fires. Rendering the entire device inert. And making it impossible to set off the devices in any sequence, let alone the perfect 'demolition sequence' that you imagine.

Making your conspiracy impossible, even hypothetically. And killing it a fourth time.

8) Worse still, the device uses conventional explosives to propel the thermite. And there were no sound of explosives preceding the collapse of WTC 7. Killing your conspiracy a fifth time.

9) And of course, no girders were cut until weeks *after* the collapse during the cleanup effort. You've never been able to show us a single girder cut in a manner described by your theory. And there would have been thousands up on thousands of them per your theory, making them impossible to miss.

In reality, there were zero. Destroying your conspiracy a sixth time.

Your new conspiracy doesn't work any better than your old conspiracy. Its an awful explanation that is factually void, contradicted by overwhelming evidence, and insanely complicated. You can't even prove that the devices exist or have ever been used.

Try again.

 

[Skylar]

now this is hilarious!

not even the debunker trolls want to stick their neck out on this one.

gotta love it when truthers present an unimpeachable case.

Relax, chuckles. Your conspiracy was already proven impossible 6 times over.

Read above.

 

[Mad Scientist]

How long did it take for most people to even KNOW that building 7 collapsed on 9/11?

If it doesn't involve cheering the troops, choosing which hot FoxNews babe they wanna' screw or talking about Sports, Americans don't care.

 

[Rozman]

Hocus Pocus...

 

[Rozman]

So the twin towers and 7 WTC were all loaded up with explosives months in advance. Just waiting
for the day when hopefully terrorists would decide to hit these three buildings. Then someone could go on the Inter Web and login and press F11 on his keyboard and blow it all to hell?

 

[Rozman]

I don't know if it's funny as hell that people actually believe this shit.
Or be weirded out that there are people out there who believe this shit.

 

[whitehall]

Everything is political. If you want to make up a 9-11 conspiracy you need to consider the political climate and Indict the Clinton administration.

 

[Skylar]

I don't know if it's funny as hell that people actually believe this shit.
Or be weirded out that there are people out there who believe this shit.

Some people just don't get Occam's Razor. And mistake their own opinions and speculation as 'facts'. And thus, Truthers.

Another factor to remember is that the websites shilling this nonsense.....are making *millions* off these poor, hapless conspiracy theorists. The gullibility and willful ignorance of a Truther is written into their business plan. So the conspiracy industry has a pretty compelling financial incentive to keep feeding its customers more conspiracy propaganda and pablum.

As its not like the folks that are gobbling this nonsense actually fact check or ask questions.

 

[R.C. Christian]

9-11 was a conspiracy, and you disagree, then you don't know the meaning of the term and should just shut the fuck up.

 

[KokomoJojo]

9-11 was a conspiracy, and you disagree, then you don't know the meaning of the term and should just shut the fuck up.

DEBUNKERS ARE PROVEN RETARDS, what have they gotten right so far? NADA!

But we need them for entertainment










I can imagine the horror being slapped with a dose of reality after 12 years of making fools out of themselves.




I am sure they are grateful and oozing with love for truthers for being so generous and pointing out the error of their ways.

 

[Skylar]

9-11 was a conspiracy, and you disagree, then you don't know the meaning of the term and should just shut the fuck up.

DEBUNKERS ARE PROVEN FUCKING RETARDS,

But we need them for entertainment

Show us a picture of your device. Not a drawing. A verifiable picture. You still can't verify that it factually exists. You can't tell us its size, its weight, nor can you cite a single instance of their use in history. All you can do is show us a drawing. Lets see if a 'drawing equals reality' holds true.

Why look, Koko! Using your 'logic', I just proved Unicorns exist. After all, there's a drawing of one.

Sigh...if only reality worked that way. You can't factually verify that your 'thermetic cutter' even exists. You can't establish that it works. And you can't factually establish that any of your imaginary 'thermetic cutters' were in the WTC. And of course, there are the litany of holes in your theory. 6 of which utterly destroy your conspiracy, each that you completely ignore. With your imagined use of 'thermetic cutters' disproven 6 times over.

And you're STILL citing Tom Sullivan? The patent he referenced as 'thermite cutting charge'.....wasn't. Here's what Sullivan said:

“n the case of Thermite cutter charges, that may also be the case [referring to being used in the World Trade Center]. Thermite self-consuming cutter charge casings have been around since first patented back in 1984.”

And here's the patent he was referencing:

Application Number: 06/494487
Publication Date: 08/14/1984

“This invention relates to a new low-energy integral thermite igniter/heat source, e.g., for use in igniting larger charges, e.g., propellant charges.”

Integral low-energy thermite igniter - The United States of America as represented by the United States

When you fact check Sullivan's claims...his 'cutter charge' turns out to be a low energy igniting system; a glorified lighter that could cut a piece of paper. Let alone steel girders in 'milliseconds' as you whimsically imagined.

And yet despite your claims being so thoroughly debunked that even AE911Truth had to issue a retraction....

We incorrectly identified the thermite device illustrated in this article as a ‘cutter charge’... Our intention was to note that the technology for self consuming consolidated thermite cases existed as far back as 1984”

Correction and Clarification: Article: Explosive Evidence at WTC Cited by Former CDI Employee

.....only a day later you're shucking the same discredited nonsense again, hoping no one would fact check it.

Um, we checked. Your glorifed lighter doesn't cut shit. Try again.

 

[KokomoJojo]

So the twin towers and 7 WTC were all loaded up with explosives months in advance. Just waiting
for the day when hopefully terrorists would decide to hit these three buildings. Then someone could go on the Inter Web and login and press F11 on his keyboard and blow it all to hell?

wtc 7 was verified evacuated seems to me around noon, so there was no body in the building to see anything, and only takes a couple hours to tape up radio controlled charges at less than 30 seconds per pop.

The neet thing about thermate charges is they can cut any thickness silently, where as the explosives get garfuckingantuan if you are cutting 5" thick columns.

Much better way to demo a building in the city than rdx.

 

[KokomoJojo]

9-11 was a conspiracy, and you disagree, then you don't know the meaning of the term and should just shut the fuck up.

DEBUNKERS ARE PROVEN FUCKING RETARDS,

But we need them for entertainment

Show us a picture of your device. Not a drawing. A verifiable picture. You still can't verify that it factually exists. You can't tell us its size, its weight, nor can you cite a single instance of their use in history. All you can do is show us a drawing. Lets see if a 'drawing equals reality' holds true.

Um, we checked. Your glorifed lighter doesn't cut shit. Try again.

Hey dimwit the patent proves its existence

Besides all it is, is a piece of pipe with a slot cut in it, how fucking hard is that?

 

[Skylar]

wtc 7 was verified evacuated seems to me around noon, so there was no body in the building to see anything, and only takes a couple hours to tape up radio controlled charges at less than 30 seconds per pop.

The neet thing about thermate charges is they can cut any thickness silently, where as the explosives get garfuckingantuan if you are cutting 5" thick columns.

Much better way to demo a building in the city than rdx.

Dude, it was evacuated because the building was on fire. Virtually every floor was in flamers. And you're not talking about a few charges set at its base. Your 'sequence of demolition' silliness claims charges all the way to the roof.

That's thousands and thousands of charges. All installed while the building was ON FIRE? Um....somehow. You can't say. All the charges and apparatus of demolition burning themselves? And somehow going off in perfect sequence, magically disappearing from every cut girder after they cut it....while not actually cutting any girder (WTF?!), and leaving no residue of any kind?

And all without the FDNY or NYPD noticing any of it?

Um, no. That's laughably, ludicrously, insanely implausible. And just an awful, awful explanation.

 

[Skylar]

Hey dimwit the patent proves its existence

No, a patent proves a patent exists. You need no proof of concept to file a patent. All you need is a DRAWING and a description. You don't need to prove it works. You don't need to prove it does what it says it does. ANd that's all you have: a drawing and a description.

You can't prove that the 'thermetic cutter' actually exists, was ever made, does anything it says it will do, or was ever used on any building in any capacity....ever. You assume it all, backed by absolutely nothing.

Just like you assume that the WTC 7 was filled with them. And I already disproved that nonsense 6 times over, demonstrating that it was physically impossible for the your theory to work:

1) Per your theory, there were thousands of such devices set across the entire building. There is zero chance that these devices would have gone unnoticed by the Port Authority bomb squad, the tenants of the building, those maintaining the building or those inspecting it.

Killing your conspiracy.

2) You said that the 'thermetic cutter' works in milliseconds. Your entire conspiracy depends on it. Nothing in that description indicates anything close to that speed. Killing your conspiracy a second time.

3) You said that the 'thermetic cutter' would disintegrate during use. Nothing in your description indicates it will disintegrate. Meaning that for your conspiracy to work, there would be thousands upon thousands of these devices on every girder supposedly 'cut'.

There were none. Absolutely destroying your conspiracy a third time.

4) Next, the building was on fire, with fire on virtually every floor. No apparatus of demolition would survive this. There would be no way to synchronize the charges, as any blasting wire or relay cables would have been destroyed. Relays would have melted, timers would have melted, receivers would have melted.

Worse, the charge describes nitrocellulose as part of its composition. Nitrocellulose (also known as gun cotton) is ridiculously flammable. Meaning that the charges would have burned from the inside out long before they would have ignited for demolition. The nitrocellulose also acts as a binding agent for shaped thermite charges. So the charge would have fallen apart as the binding agent burned.

The conventional fuse described by the patent was fuse 26 available from Pyrofuse Corporation. That fuse works electrically, requiring connection to output terminals. All of which would have melted in the huge building fires. Rendering the entire device inert. And making it impossible to set off the devices in any sequence, let alone the perfect 'demolition sequence' that you imagine.

Making your conspiracy impossible, even hypothetically. And killing it a fourth time.

5) Worse still, the device uses conventional explosives to propel the thermite. And there were no sound of explosives preceding the collapse of WTC 7. Killing your conspiracy a fifth time.

6) And of course, no girders were cut until weeks *after* the collapse during the cleanup effort. You've never been able to show us a single girder cut in a manner described by your theory. And there would have been thousands up on thousands of them per your theory, making them impossible to miss.

But like a good little conspiracy theorist, you ignore the gaping, theory killing holes that simply destroy your conspiracy and pretend they don't exist. What you can't do is make *us* pretend.

 

[KokomoJojo]

wtc 7 was verified evacuated seems to me around noon, so there was no body in the building to see anything, and only takes a couple hours to tape up radio controlled charges at less than 30 seconds per pop.

The neet thing about thermate charges is they can cut any thickness silently, where as the explosives get garfuckingantuan if you are cutting 5" thick columns.

Much better way to demo a building in the city than rdx.

Dude, it was evacuated because the building was on fire. Virtually every floor was in flamers. And you're not talking about a few charges set at its base. Your 'sequence of demolition' silliness claims charges all the way to the roof.

That's thousands and thousands of charges. All installed while the building was ON FIRE? Um....somehow. You can't say. All the charges and apparatus of demolition burning themselves? And somehow going off in perfect sequence, magically disappearing from every cut girder after they cut it....while not actually cutting any girder (WTF?!), and leaving no residue of any kind?

And all without the FDNY or NYPD noticing any of it?

Um, no. That's laughably, ludicrously, insanely implausible. And just an awful, awful explanation.

debunkers made those quotes up.

anybody with 1 brain cell can see there was no fire.



If you think the building was fully engulfed in fire before those thermate cutters which are TORCHES were set off, point it out for us because no one can see any buildings FULLY ENGULFED in fire but you, then, of course, after the thermetic cutters were ignited there was fire top to bottom as the columns were being cut.

Really simple 1 brain cell stuff here.

 

[KokomoJojo]

it was evacuated because the building was on fire.

Virtually every floor was in flamers.

Your 'sequence of demolition' silliness claims charges all the way to the roof. That's thousands and thousands of charges. All installed while the building was ON FIRE?

And all without the FDNY or NYPD noticing any of it?

That's laughably, ludicrously, insanely implausible. And just an awful, awful explanation.

Ok, this will be waiting for you to show us by putting your finger on the "engulfing fires",
JUST ONE LITTLE ONE will suffice, since it only takes one brain cell to see there is no visible fire and fire makes light and light is visible so you are fucking delusional and seeing things that do not exist.

Thousands, are you that naive or completely out of your mind? its a demolition not a vaporization.

Typical building fire is not hot enough to light thermate and thermate charges are COMPLETELY SEALED.

Acknowledgement for the record and notice are two entirely different things, however for the sake of an argument if they truely did not notice any foul play then they were preplanted.

all your supposed defenses arent worth.


You have said NOTHING that raises "REASONABLE" doubt it was anything but a demoition.

 

[SteadyMercury]

since it only takes one brain cell to see there is no visible fire and fire makes light and light is visible so you are fucking delusional and seeing things that do not exist.

Agreed, there was no fire at all at WTC 7