9.2 Million more unemployed.

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    11/4/12 UE= 22.7 Million
    11/4/08 UE= 13.5 Million
    U.S. National Debt Clock 2008

    props for decker for getting me to go back to one of my fav websites.

    I told him 5 million more were jobless under obama. Turn out I thought to highly of that buffoon.

    Yall really want 4 more years of this?


    And before you blather on about 'created jobs', face the fact that more people are jobless and that that excuse is utter horse shit.
     
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    For every one 'job' created, 75 people were added to food stamps.

    This is just not acceptable.

    Romney/Ryan 2012.
     
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    holy shit

    Do you have a link that shows that math?




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    http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001?output_view=net_1mth

    2009 818 -724 -799 -692 -361 -482 -339 -231 -199 -202 -42 -171 -3424
    2010 -40 -35 189 239 516 -167 -58 -51 -27 220 121 120 1027
    2011 110 220 246 251 54 84 96 85 202 112 157 223 1840
    2012 275 259 143 68 87 45 181 192 148 171 170 170 1909
    Total 1352

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    Food Stamps Charts

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    In the four year of Obama it can be seen that the indiviual use of food stamps has increased approximately 13.7 million. Considering that the unemployment rate has effectively not changed, as promised, in the four years of Obama then he actually has created NO jobs.

    But using the numbers above only on jobs created was about 1.352 million. 13.7/1.352=10 approximately, the last four months were a guess for 2012. So the claim was a bit inflated but certainly the reality is not much better.

    Vote your job, vote your country, vote Romney.
     
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    I hate to repeat myself.

    but

    Holy Shit


    Wonder what the spin is?
     
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    Those numbers are not reliable. First their "real unemployment" is not just unemployed..they're adding in the Marginally Attached (people not trying to work but likely to start looking) and people working part time for economic reasons, meaning they're counting people working up to 34 hours/week as 'Unemployed," because they want to work more hours.

    And they have the data wrong. First, when comparing the same month in different years, it's more accurate to look at the not seasonally adjusted data (especially since marginally attached is not seasonally adjusted).
    So... going to the Historical Data we pick Table A-1, select Unemployed not seasonally adjusted and the number of unemployed was 9,469,000
    For Oct 2012 it was 11,741,000 a change of 2,272,000

    Your link claims they're using the U6 denominator, so we'll go to Table A-8, not seasonally adjusted part time for economic reasons and get 6,267,000 for 2008 and 7,870,000 for 2012. Huh, that's funny...they were claiming a total of only 13.5 million but our total so far is 15,736,000 for 2008 and we're not done yet.

    Next is Table A-16 where we add in Marginally Attached which was 1,637,000 in 2008 and 2,433,000 in 2012. Final count is 2008 = 17,373,000 for 2008 and 22,044,000 in 2012

    Breaking it down again, that's an increase of 2,272,000 Unemployed, increase of 1,603,000 people working part time due to cut hours or couldn't find full time work, and an increase of 796,000 people who looked for work sometime in the last year but aren't looking now though they now could work if offered.

    Things are bad enough, I don't get why people have to distort things to make them look worse. (I'm assuming you're being honest and the bogus numbers at your link just deceived you.) Go to the source, don't trust blogs or political sites.
     
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    The recession itself didn't stop bleeding jobs until into 2009, so there's that disengenuousness to begin with.
     
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    It's not a blog or a political site.

    Source; Bureau of labor statistics.

    Sorry to inform you of these undeniable facts, but obama sucks ass and he's fucked Americans over for 4 years.

    I don't expect librals to care, I just want them to know how much I know they suck.
     
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    translation;

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