9-11? Why not a dirty bomb from IRAQ & WMDs where there

[JRK]

Why all of the conspiracy surrounding 9-11?
I mean someone needs to explain to me why we these people who "created" 9-11 did not just use a dirty bomb and later show Saddam was behind it?

have all the stuff in place to find it all the way to his front door. These people where smart enough in broad daylight to blow up both world trade centers and the pentagon, but not smart enough to leave some weapons grade uranium laying around in IRAQ?

Lets start with some WMD news

####Clearly Saddam was in violation of the cease fire agreement

Chemical
The document indicates that 13,000 chemical bombs were dropped by the Iraqi Air Force between 1983 and 1988, while Iraq has declared that 19,500 bombs were consumed during this period. Thus, there is a discrepancy of 6,500 bombs. The amount of chemical agent in these bombs would be in the order of about 1,000 tonnes. In the absence of evidence to the contrary, we must assume that these quantities are now unaccounted for.

Bilogical
Iraq has declared that it produced about 8,500 litres of this biological warfare agent, which it states it unilaterally destroyed in the summer of 1991. Iraq has provided little evidence for this production and no convincing evidence for its destruction.

There are strong indications that Iraq produced more anthrax than it declared, and that at least some of this was retained after the declared destruction date. It might still exist. Either it should be found and be destroyed under UNMOVIC supervision or else convincing evidence should be produced to show that it was, indeed, destroyed in 1991.


As I reported to the Council on 19 December last year, Iraq did not declare a significant quantity, some 650 kg, of bacterial growth media, which was acknowledged as imported in Iraq’s submission to the Amorim panel in February 1999. As part of its 7 December 2002 declaration, Iraq resubmitted the Amorim panel document, but the table showing this particular import of media was not included. The absence of this table would appear to be deliberate as the pages of the resubmitted document were renumbered.

Missiles
Two projects in particular stand out. They are the development of a liquid-fuelled missile named the Al Samoud 2, and a solid propellant missile, called the Al Fatah. Both missiles have been tested to a range in excess of the permitted range of 150 km, with the Al Samoud 2 being tested to a maximum of 183 km and the Al Fatah to 161 km. Some of both types of missiles have already been provided to the Iraqi Armed Forces even though it is stated that they are still undergoing development.

Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria, Official Says
Over 500 munitions, out dated, where found
The agreement Saddam made was all where to be destroyed

moved to Syria
Iraq's WMD Secreted in Syria, Sada Says - January 26, 2006 - The New York Sun
Pajamas Media » Satellite Photos Support Testimony That Iraqi WMD Went to Syria

 

[Mr. Jones]

Why all of the conspiracy surrounding 9-11?
I mean someone needs to explain to me why we these people who "created" 9-11 did not just use a dirty bomb and later show Saddam was behind it?

War on terror takes us everywhere to"wipe out Al Qaeda" The plan to invade Afghanistan was needed to secure the pipelines. Framing Iraq could have limited the military intervention and wars to Iraq.

have all the stuff in place to find it all the way to his front door. These people where smart enough in broad daylight to blow up both world trade centers and the pentagon, but not smart enough to leave some weapons grade uranium laying around in IRAQ?

There were rumors of a plan to plant WMDs in Iraq to justify the invasion and war, but according to the sources, planting them and "finding" them would have been difficult to explain after weapons inspectors continually said there were none, and then the possibility of them being traced back to the US and getting caught red handed wouldn't have looked so good. This was not needed to be done though, as the wars kicked off and the objectives were reached and well under way already.
You asked why all the conspiracy about 9-11? Ask the government, they started the conspiracy theory, then when citizens started to ask questions about the many anomalies, they are the ones being called conspiracy theorists.
IMO, 9/11 was a massive and cruel hoax foisted upon the world, done in order to spark the obscene "war on terror", to cover up financial fraud and to further the ends of the global elite. 9/11 was only the most egregious of several other recent false-flag terror operations.
Keep in mind "Propaganda works by tricking people into believing a lie, then relying on their unwillingness to admit error to imprison them there." author unknown

 

[JRK]

Why all of the conspiracy surrounding 9-11?
I mean someone needs to explain to me why we these people who "created" 9-11 did not just use a dirty bomb and later show Saddam was behind it?

War on terror takes us everywhere to"wipe out Al Qaeda" The plan to invade Afghanistan was needed to secure the pipelines. Framing Iraq could have limited the military intervention and wars to Iraq.

have all the stuff in place to find it all the way to his front door. These people where smart enough in broad daylight to blow up both world trade centers and the pentagon, but not smart enough to leave some weapons grade uranium laying around in IRAQ?

There were rumors of a plan to plant WMDs in Iraq to justify the invasion and war, but according to the sources, planting them and "finding" them would have been difficult to explain after weapons inspectors continually said there were none, and then the possibility of them being traced back to the US and getting caught red handed wouldn't have looked so good. This was not needed to be done though, as the wars kicked off and the objectives were reached and well under way already.
You asked why all the conspiracy about 9-11? Ask the government, they started the conspiracy theory, then when citizens started to ask questions about the many anomalies, they are the ones being called conspiracy theorists.
IMO, 9/11 was a massive and cruel hoax foisted upon the world, done in order to spark the obscene "war on terror", to cover up financial fraud and to further the ends of the global elite. 9/11 was only the most egregious of several other recent false-flag terror operations.
Keep in mind "Propaganda works by tricking people into believing a lie, then relying on their unwillingness to admit error to imprison them there." author unknown

 

[JRK]

War on terror takes us everywhere to"wipe out Al Qaeda" The plan to invade Afghanistan was needed to secure the pipelines. Framing Iraq could have limited the military intervention and wars to Iraq.


There were rumors of a plan to plant WMDs in Iraq to justify the invasion and war, but according to the sources, planting them and "finding" them would have been difficult to explain after weapons inspectors continually said there were none, and then the possibility of them being traced back to the US and getting caught red handed wouldn't have looked so good. This was not needed to be done though, as the wars kicked off and the objectives were reached and well under way already.
You asked why all the conspiracy about 9-11? Ask the government, they started the conspiracy theory, then when citizens started to ask questions about the many anomalies, they are the ones being called conspiracy theorists.
IMO, 9/11 was a massive and cruel hoax foisted upon the world, done in order to spark the obscene "war on terror", to cover up financial fraud and to further the ends of the global elite. 9/11 was only the most egregious of several other recent false-flag terror operations.
Keep in mind "Propaganda works by tricking people into believing a lie, then relying on their unwillingness to admit error to imprison them there." author unknown

Propaganda?
Said there where none?
This is the entire problem
this report is 8 weeks prior to us invading Iraq
Blix: weapons and anthrax still unaccounted for - Telegraph
Iraq has not yet come to genuinely accept disarmament, according to Hans Blix, the United Nations's chief weapons inspector.
Iraq has co-operated with his team on providing access but it needed to go further, Mr Blix told the UN Security Council.
He said: "It would appear from our experience so far that Iraq has decided in principle to provide co-operation on process, notably access.
"A similar decision is indispensable to provide co-operation on substance in order to bring the disarmament task to completion, through the peaceful process of inspection, and to bring the monitoring task on a firm course."
Touching on the question of how much time inspectors need, he said he shared "the sense of urgency" to achieve disarmament within "a reasonable period of time".
The UN Security Council was meeting to hear Mr Blix's first report following the return of weapons inspectors to Iraq last November.
Of the declaration of weapons made by Iraq under UN resolution 1441, he said: "Regrettably, the 12,000-page declaration does not seem to contain any new material."
Mr Blix said the declaration had failed to account for 6,500 chemical warfare bombs, adding that 12 empty chemical warheads recently found in a bunker south of Baghdad "could be the tip of the iceberg".
Iraq had also failed to prove it had destroyed all of its anthrax, Mr Blix said. There were "strong indications" that it had produced more than it had admitted.
He recalled that Iraq had declared that it produced 8,500 litres of anthrax and unilaterally destroyed the stock in the summer of 1991. But there was "no convincing evidence of destruction," he said.

 

[Mr. Jones]

Propaganda?
Said there where none?
This is the entire problem
this report is 8 weeks prior to us invading Iraq
Blix: weapons and anthrax still unaccounted for - Telegraph
Iraq has not yet come to genuinely accept disarmament, according to Hans Blix, the United Nations's chief weapons inspector.
Iraq has co-operated with his team on providing access but it needed to go further, Mr Blix told the UN Security Council.
He said: "It would appear from our experience so far that Iraq has decided in principle to provide co-operation on process, notably access.
"A similar decision is indispensable to provide co-operation on substance in order to bring the disarmament task to completion, through the peaceful process of inspection, and to bring the monitoring task on a firm course."
Touching on the question of how much time inspectors need, he said he shared "the sense of urgency" to achieve disarmament within "a reasonable period of time".
The UN Security Council was meeting to hear Mr Blix's first report following the return of weapons inspectors to Iraq last November.
Of the declaration of weapons made by Iraq under UN resolution 1441, he said: "Regrettably, the 12,000-page declaration does not seem to contain any new material."
Mr Blix said the declaration had failed to account for 6,500 chemical warfare bombs, adding that 12 empty chemical warheads recently found in a bunker south of Baghdad "could be the tip of the iceberg".
Iraq had also failed to prove it had destroyed all of its anthrax, Mr Blix said. There were "strong indications" that it had produced more than it had admitted.
He recalled that Iraq had declared that it produced 8,500 litres of anthrax and unilaterally destroyed the stock in the summer of 1991. But there was "no convincing evidence of destruction," he said.

Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity - SourceWatch

Whistleblowing and Iraq

Two Years Before 9/11, Bush was Already Talking About Attacking Iraq

TomPaine.com - Proof Bush Fixed The Facts

[redacted] news: JB Campbell: Curve Ball - CIA and The So-Called Americans

FACT: According to documents, "Saddam Hussein warned his Iraqi supporters to be wary of joining forces with foreign Arab fighters entering Iraq to battle U.S. troops. The document provides another piece of evidence challenging the Bush administration contention of close cooperation between Saddam's regime and al Qaeda terrorists." [NY Times, 1/15/04]

FACT: "CIA interrogators have already elicited from the top Qaeda officials in custody that, before the American-led invasion, Osama bin Laden had rejected entreaties from some of his lieutenants to work jointly with Saddam." [NY Times, 1/15/04]

FACT: "Sec. of State Colin Powell conceded Thursday that despite his assertions to the United Nations last year, he had no 'smoking gun' proof of a link between the government of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and terrorists of al-Qaeda.'I have not seen smoking-gun, concrete evidence about the connection,' Powell said." [NY Times, 1/9/04]

FACT:Three former Bush Administration officials who worked on intelligence and national security issues said the prewar evidence tying Al Qaeda was tenuous, exaggerated and often at odds with the conclusions of key intelligence agencies. [National Journal, 8/9/03]

FACT: Declassified documents undercut Bush administration claims before the war that Hussein had links to Al Qaeda [LA Times, 7/19/03].

FACT: The chairman of the monitoring group appointed by the United Nations Security Council to track Al Qaeda told reporters that his team had found no evidence linking Al Qaeda to Saddam Hussein. [NY Times, 6/27/03]

FACT: "U.S. allies have found no links between Iraq and Al Qaeda. 'We have found no evidence of links between Iraq and Al Qaeda,' said Europe's top investigator. 'If there were such links, we would have found them. But we have found no serious connections whatsoever.'" [LA Times, 11/4/02]

FACT: No WMD have been found. According to Reuters on 9/15/03 , the Administration's hand picked weapons inspector has come up with no WMD on his visit to Iraq. A draft report on the search for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq provides no solid evidence that Iraq had such arms when the United States invaded the country in March. (Note: the chemical weapons Bush was referring to at the time never materialized.)

FACT: Despite the claim that Iraq's supposed WMD posed an imminent threat to the U.S., Secretary of State Colin Powell said on 2/24/01 that Saddam Hussein has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction.

http://www.americanprogress.org/kf/priraqclaimfact1029.htm

9/11 Summary

How The United States Illegally Armed Saddam Hussein

Reagan's WMD Connection to Saddam Hussein by Jacob G. Hornberger

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Nice job of taking him to school but the loyal Bush dupe is so much in denial and only sees what he wants to see that its a waste of time.he never reads the links you post since it doest go along with his version of events he wants to believe in.he doesnt want to believe the facts the media is a just a tool for the goverment and government agencys just investigate themselves and the media covers for them. and that he has been brainwashed by propaganda.

 

[eots]

why does George bush get to decide what teleology sovereign nations pursue....meanwhile he and his cohorts spread depleted uranium throughout....who sold the mustard gas to Saddam ?....it is all bullshit...a smoke screen

 

[bucs90]

Has anyone considered this:

Maybe the propoganda is reverse. Maybe some crazy Muslims attacked us with hijacked planes. But a desperate left wing created a 9-11 truth conspiracy to tarnish a Republican president so he wouldn't become a war-time hero and prevent a Democrat from ever taking office again.

You truthers are useful idiots indeed.

 

[eots]

has anyone considered this:

Maybe the propoganda is reverse. Maybe some crazy muslims attacked us with hijacked planes. But a desperate left wing created a 9-11 truth conspiracy to tarnish a republican president so he wouldn't become a war-time hero and prevent a democrat from ever taking office again.

You truthers are useful idiots indeed.

you actually believe the president runs the country and that and the some big difference between pepsi or coke and you are free because you get to choose between the two...lol.....a usefull idiot indeed

 

[JRK]

Propaganda?
Said there where none?
This is the entire problem
this report is 8 weeks prior to us invading Iraq
Blix: weapons and anthrax still unaccounted for - Telegraph
Iraq has not yet come to genuinely accept disarmament, according to Hans Blix, the United Nations's chief weapons inspector.
Iraq has co-operated with his team on providing access but it needed to go further, Mr Blix told the UN Security Council.
He said: "It would appear from our experience so far that Iraq has decided in principle to provide co-operation on process, notably access.
"A similar decision is indispensable to provide co-operation on substance in order to bring the disarmament task to completion, through the peaceful process of inspection, and to bring the monitoring task on a firm course."
Touching on the question of how much time inspectors need, he said he shared "the sense of urgency" to achieve disarmament within "a reasonable period of time".
The UN Security Council was meeting to hear Mr Blix's first report following the return of weapons inspectors to Iraq last November.
Of the declaration of weapons made by Iraq under UN resolution 1441, he said: "Regrettably, the 12,000-page declaration does not seem to contain any new material."
Mr Blix said the declaration had failed to account for 6,500 chemical warfare bombs, adding that 12 empty chemical warheads recently found in a bunker south of Baghdad "could be the tip of the iceberg".
Iraq had also failed to prove it had destroyed all of its anthrax, Mr Blix said. There were "strong indications" that it had produced more than it had admitted.
He recalled that Iraq had declared that it produced 8,500 litres of anthrax and unilaterally destroyed the stock in the summer of 1991. But there was "no convincing evidence of destruction," he said.

Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity - SourceWatch

Whistleblowing and Iraq

Two Years Before 9/11, Bush was Already Talking About Attacking Iraq

TomPaine.com - Proof Bush Fixed The Facts

[redacted] news: JB Campbell: Curve Ball - CIA and The So-Called Americans

FACT: According to documents, "Saddam Hussein warned his Iraqi supporters to be wary of joining forces with foreign Arab fighters entering Iraq to battle U.S. troops. The document provides another piece of evidence challenging the Bush administration contention of close cooperation between Saddam's regime and al Qaeda terrorists." [NY Times, 1/15/04]

FACT: "CIA interrogators have already elicited from the top Qaeda officials in custody that, before the American-led invasion, Osama bin Laden had rejected entreaties from some of his lieutenants to work jointly with Saddam." [NY Times, 1/15/04]

FACT: "Sec. of State Colin Powell conceded Thursday that despite his assertions to the United Nations last year, he had no 'smoking gun' proof of a link between the government of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and terrorists of al-Qaeda.'I have not seen smoking-gun, concrete evidence about the connection,' Powell said." [NY Times, 1/9/04]

FACT:Three former Bush Administration officials who worked on intelligence and national security issues said the prewar evidence tying Al Qaeda was tenuous, exaggerated and often at odds with the conclusions of key intelligence agencies. [National Journal, 8/9/03]

FACT: Declassified documents undercut Bush administration claims before the war that Hussein had links to Al Qaeda [LA Times, 7/19/03].

FACT: The chairman of the monitoring group appointed by the United Nations Security Council to track Al Qaeda told reporters that his team had found no evidence linking Al Qaeda to Saddam Hussein. [NY Times, 6/27/03]

FACT: "U.S. allies have found no links between Iraq and Al Qaeda. 'We have found no evidence of links between Iraq and Al Qaeda,' said Europe's top investigator. 'If there were such links, we would have found them. But we have found no serious connections whatsoever.'" [LA Times, 11/4/02]

FACT: No WMD have been found. According to Reuters on 9/15/03 , the Administration's hand picked weapons inspector has come up with no WMD on his visit to Iraq. A draft report on the search for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq provides no solid evidence that Iraq had such arms when the United States invaded the country in March. (Note: the chemical weapons Bush was referring to at the time never materialized.)

FACT: Despite the claim that Iraq's supposed WMD posed an imminent threat to the U.S., Secretary of State Colin Powell said on 2/24/01 that Saddam Hussein has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction.

http://www.americanprogress.org/kf/priraqclaimfact1029.htm

9/11 Summary

How The United States Illegally Armed Saddam Hussein

Reagan's WMD Connection to Saddam Hussein by Jacob G. Hornberger

Fact?
Smoking gun?
those are opinions
you want a smoking gun pre 3/2003? pre 9-11? what you base your choice on?
the L.A. Times or Bill Clinton if you where president?

ust weeks after Clinton bombed the daylights out of suspected hideaways for Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, he used his January 1999 State of the Union Address to warn America about both bin Laden and Saddam, mentioning the two terror kingpins almost in the same breath. "We will defend our security wherever we are threatened - as we did this summer when we struck at Osama bin Laden's network of terror," Clinton told Congress and the nation. "The bombing our embassies in Kenya and Tanzania reminds us again of the risks faced every day by those who represent America to the world." Moments later Clinton segued into the threat posed by Saddam:

"For nearly a decade, Iraq has defied its obligations to destroy its weapons of terror and the missiles to deliver them. America will continue to contain Saddam, and we will work for the day when Iraq has a government worthy of its people." But rather than launch an all out assault on what reporters now call the "dubious" assertion that Saddam and bin Laden had made common cause, the press took Clinton's ball and ran with it.

In fact, as researched and documented this week by FrontPageMagazine.com, in 1999 the national news media was replete with reports linking the Butcher of Baghdad and the man who masterminded the killing of 3,000 Americans almost two years ago.

Here are a few highlights gathered by FrontPage from the press' Saddam-bin Laden file – stories that have since conveniently disappeared down the media's memory hole:

Associated Press Worldstream

Feb. 14, 1999 Taliban leader says whereabouts of bin Laden unknown

... Analysts say bin Laden's options for asylum are limited.

Iraq was considered a possible destination because bin Laden had received an invitation from Iraqi President Saddam Hussein last month. And Somalia was a third possible destination because of its anarchy and violent anti-U.S. history .... San Jose Mercury News

SUNDAY MORNING FINAL EDITION

Feb. 14, 1999 U.S. WORRIED ABOUT IRAQI, BIN LADEN TIES TERRORIST COULD GAIN EVEN DEADLIER WEAPONS U.S. intelligence officials are worried that a burgeoning alliance between terrorist leader Osama bin Laden and Iraqi President Saddam Hussein could make the fugitive Saudi's loose-knit organization much more dangerous ... In addition, the officials said, Palestinian terrorist Abu Nidal is now in Iraq, as is a renowned Palestinian bomb designer, and both could make their expertise available to bin Laden. "It's clear the Iraqis would like to have bin Laden in Iraq," said Vincent Cannistraro, a former head of counterterrorism operations at the Central Intelligence Agency ... Saddam has even offered asylum to bin Laden, who has expressed support for Iraq.

... [in] late December, when bin Laden met a senior Iraqi intelligence official near Qandahar, Afghanistan, there has been increasing evidence that bin Laden and Iraq may have begun cooperating in planning attacks against American and British targets around the world. Bin Laden, who strikes in the name of Islam, and Saddam, one of the most secular rulers in the Arab world, have little in common except their hatred of the United States ...

More worrisome, the American officials said, are indications that there may be contacts between bin Laden's organization and Iraq's Special Security Organization (SSO), run by Saddam's son Qusay. Both the SSO and the Mukhabarat were involved in a failed 1993 plot to assassinate former President George Bush ...

"The idea that the same people who are hiding Saddam's biological weapons may be meeting with Osama bin Laden is not a happy one," said one American official.... Beacon Journal wire services

Oct. 31, 1999 BIN LADEN SPOTTED AFTER OFFER TO LEAVE DATELINE: JALALABAD, AFGHANISTAN: ... The Taliban has since made it known through official channels that the likely destination is Iraq. A Clinton administration official said bin Laden's request "falls far short" of the UN resolution that the Taliban deliver him for trial. ...

The Kansas City Star March 2, 1999 International terrorism, a conflict without boundaries By Rich Hood ... He [bin Laden] has a private fortune ranging from $250 million to $500 million and is said to be cultivating a new alliance with Iraq's Saddam Hussein, who has biological and chemical weapons bin Laden would not hesitate to use. An alliance between bin Laden and Saddam Hussein could be deadly. Both men are united in their hatred for the United States and any country friendly to the United States. ...

United Press International Nov. 3, 1999, Wednesday, BC cycle. WASHINGTON – The U.S. government has tried to prevent accused terror suspect Osama bin Laden from fleeing Afghanistan to either Iraq or Chechnya, Michael Sheehan, head of counter-terrorism at the State Department, told a Senate Foreign Relations subcommittee. ...

U.S. Newswire Dec. 23, 1999 Terrorism Expert Reveals Why Osama bin Laden has Declared War On America; Available for Comment in Light of Predicted Attacks. ... Aauthor Yossef] Bodansky also reveals the relationship between bin Laden and Saddam Hussein and how the U.S. bombing of Iraq is "strengthening the hands of militant Islamists eager to translate their rage into violence and terrorism."

National Public Radio MORNING EDITION (10:00 a.m.ET) Feb. 18, 1999 THOUGH AFGHANISTAN HAS PROVIDED OSAMA BIN LADEN WITH SANCTUARY, IT IS UNCLEAR WHERE HE IS NOW. ANCHORS: BOB EDWARDS REPORTERS: MIKE SHUSTER ... There have also been reports in recent months that bin Laden might have been considering moving his operations to Iraq. Intelligence agencies in several nations are looking into that. According to Vincent Cannistraro, a former chief of CIA counterterrorism operations, a senior Iraqi intelligence official, Farouk Hijazi(ph), sought out bin Laden in December and invited him to come to Iraq.

Mr. VINCENT CANNISTRARO (Former Chief of CIA Counterterrorism Operations): Farouk Hijazi, who was the Iraqi ambassador in Turkey ... known through sources in Afghanistan, members of Osama's entourage let it be known that the meeting had taken place.

SHUSTER: Iraq's contacts with bin Laden go back some years, to at least 1994, when, according to one U.S. government source, Hijazi met him when bin Laden lived in Sudan. According to Cannistraro, Iraq invited bin Laden to live in Baghdad to be nearer to potential targets of terrorist attack in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. There is a wide gap between bin Laden's fundamentalism and Saddam Hussein's secular dictatorship. But some experts believe bin Laden might be tempted to live in Iraq because of his reported desire to obtain chemical or biological weapons. CIA director George Tenet referred to that in recent testimony. ... Foreign news services also carried news of the now-supressed Saddam-bin Laden connection:

Agence France-Presse Feb. 17, 1999 Saddam plans to use bin Laden against Kuwait, Saudi: opposition Iraq's President Saddam Hussein plans to use alleged terrorist Osama bin Laden's network to carry out his threats against Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, an Iraqi opposition figure charged on Wednesday. "If the ... Jaber, a member of the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI), said Iraq had "offered to shelter bin Laden under the precondition that he carry out strikes on targets in neighbouring countries."

Deutsche Presse-Agentur Feb. 17, 1999, Wednesday, BC Cycle Opposition group says bin Laden in Iraq

DATELINE: Kuwait City An Iraqi opposition group claimed in a published report Wednesday that Islamic militant Osama bin Laden is in Iraq from where he plans to launch a campaign of terrorism against Baghdad's Gulf neighbours. The claim was made by Bayan Jabor, spokesman for the Teheran-based Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI). Bin Laden "recently settled in Iraq at the invitation of Saddam Hussein in exchange for directing strikes against targets in neighbouring countries," Jabor told the Kuwaiti newspaper al-Rai al- Aam ... Taleban leaders in Afghanistan, where he had been living, said they lost track of him. Media reports have speculated he sought refuge in Chechnya, Somalia, Iraq, or with a non-Taliban group in Afghanistan.

Jabor, who was interviewed in Damascus, Syria, said Iraq began extending invitations to bin Laden six months ago, shortly after the United States bombed his suspected terrorist training camps in Afghanistan after linking him with the August 7 bombings of U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya and in Dar-es-Salam, Tanzania.

The United States indicted Bin Laden for the embassy bombings and has offered a five million dollar reward for information leading to his capture. Bin Laden's disappearance has coincided with stepped up threats by Iraq against neighbours Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Turkey for allowing the United States and Britain to use their air bases to carry out air patrols over two "no-fly" zones over northern and southern Iraq.

http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2003/7/16/123325

 

[mudwhistle]

Why all of the conspiracy surrounding 9-11?
I mean someone needs to explain to me why we these people who "created" 9-11 did not just use a dirty bomb and later show Saddam was behind it?

War on terror takes us everywhere to"wipe out Al Qaeda" The plan to invade Afghanistan was needed to secure the pipelines. Framing Iraq could have limited the military intervention and wars to Iraq.

have all the stuff in place to find it all the way to his front door. These people where smart enough in broad daylight to blow up both world trade centers and the pentagon, but not smart enough to leave some weapons grade uranium laying around in IRAQ?

There were rumors of a plan to plant WMDs in Iraq to justify the invasion and war, but according to the sources, planting them and "finding" them would have been difficult to explain after weapons inspectors continually said there were none, and then the possibility of them being traced back to the US and getting caught red handed wouldn't have looked so good. This was not needed to be done though, as the wars kicked off and the objectives were reached and well under way already.
You asked why all the conspiracy about 9-11? Ask the government, they started the conspiracy theory, then when citizens started to ask questions about the many anomalies, they are the ones being called conspiracy theorists.
IMO, 9/11 was a massive and cruel hoax foisted upon the world, done in order to spark the obscene "war on terror", to cover up financial fraud and to further the ends of the global elite. 9/11 was only the most egregious of several other recent false-flag terror operations.
Keep in mind "Propaganda works by tricking people into believing a lie, then relying on their unwillingness to admit error to imprison them there." author unknown

Guess the inspectors missed hundreds of tones of yellow-cake uranium.

But nobody's perfect.

Iraq is a big country. It could be buried anywhere, and Turkey prevented 4th Armored from invading from the North so Russian Spitznaz solders could get what was left out of the country and ship it to Syria and Jordan, and all of those flights that they claimed went North and...

..WAIT A MINUTE!!!! Why the heck are we still talking about WMDs again? This is all old news. We need to talk about Click and Clack, and Cowboy Poetry. Oh and why the hell aren't we talking about our brackets? Let's get back on track folks.

 

[JRK]

Propaganda?
Said there where none?
This is the entire problem
this report is 8 weeks prior to us invading Iraq
Blix: weapons and anthrax still unaccounted for - Telegraph
Iraq has not yet come to genuinely accept disarmament, according to Hans Blix, the United Nations's chief weapons inspector.
Iraq has co-operated with his team on providing access but it needed to go further, Mr Blix told the UN Security Council.
He said: "It would appear from our experience so far that Iraq has decided in principle to provide co-operation on process, notably access.
"A similar decision is indispensable to provide co-operation on substance in order to bring the disarmament task to completion, through the peaceful process of inspection, and to bring the monitoring task on a firm course."
Touching on the question of how much time inspectors need, he said he shared "the sense of urgency" to achieve disarmament within "a reasonable period of time".
The UN Security Council was meeting to hear Mr Blix's first report following the return of weapons inspectors to Iraq last November.
Of the declaration of weapons made by Iraq under UN resolution 1441, he said: "Regrettably, the 12,000-page declaration does not seem to contain any new material."
Mr Blix said the declaration had failed to account for 6,500 chemical warfare bombs, adding that 12 empty chemical warheads recently found in a bunker south of Baghdad "could be the tip of the iceberg".
Iraq had also failed to prove it had destroyed all of its anthrax, Mr Blix said. There were "strong indications" that it had produced more than it had admitted.
He recalled that Iraq had declared that it produced 8,500 litres of anthrax and unilaterally destroyed the stock in the summer of 1991. But there was "no convincing evidence of destruction," he said.

Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity - SourceWatch

Whistleblowing and Iraq

Two Years Before 9/11, Bush was Already Talking About Attacking Iraq

TomPaine.com - Proof Bush Fixed The Facts

[redacted] news: JB Campbell: Curve Ball - CIA and The So-Called Americans

FACT: According to documents, "Saddam Hussein warned his Iraqi supporters to be wary of joining forces with foreign Arab fighters entering Iraq to battle U.S. troops. The document provides another piece of evidence challenging the Bush administration contention of close cooperation between Saddam's regime and al Qaeda terrorists." [NY Times, 1/15/04]

FACT: "CIA interrogators have already elicited from the top Qaeda officials in custody that, before the American-led invasion, Osama bin Laden had rejected entreaties from some of his lieutenants to work jointly with Saddam." [NY Times, 1/15/04]

FACT: "Sec. of State Colin Powell conceded Thursday that despite his assertions to the United Nations last year, he had no 'smoking gun' proof of a link between the government of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and terrorists of al-Qaeda.'I have not seen smoking-gun, concrete evidence about the connection,' Powell said." [NY Times, 1/9/04]

FACT:Three former Bush Administration officials who worked on intelligence and national security issues said the prewar evidence tying Al Qaeda was tenuous, exaggerated and often at odds with the conclusions of key intelligence agencies. [National Journal, 8/9/03]

FACT: Declassified documents undercut Bush administration claims before the war that Hussein had links to Al Qaeda [LA Times, 7/19/03].

FACT: The chairman of the monitoring group appointed by the United Nations Security Council to track Al Qaeda told reporters that his team had found no evidence linking Al Qaeda to Saddam Hussein. [NY Times, 6/27/03]

FACT: "U.S. allies have found no links between Iraq and Al Qaeda. 'We have found no evidence of links between Iraq and Al Qaeda,' said Europe's top investigator. 'If there were such links, we would have found them. But we have found no serious connections whatsoever.'" [LA Times, 11/4/02]

FACT: No WMD have been found. According to Reuters on 9/15/03 , the Administration's hand picked weapons inspector has come up with no WMD on his visit to Iraq. A draft report on the search for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq provides no solid evidence that Iraq had such arms when the United States invaded the country in March. (Note: the chemical weapons Bush was referring to at the time never materialized.)

FACT: Despite the claim that Iraq's supposed WMD posed an imminent threat to the U.S., Secretary of State Colin Powell said on 2/24/01 that Saddam Hussein has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction.

http://www.americanprogress.org/kf/priraqclaimfact1029.htm

9/11 Summary

How The United States Illegally Armed Saddam Hussein

Reagan's WMD Connection to Saddam Hussein by Jacob G. Hornberger

One other thing I need to mention
Every fact you offer, I cannot find a source named
except the LA times and the NY times. Real fair News Papers huh?

many I offer comes straight from the horses mouth

 

[candycorn]

Has anyone considered this:

Maybe the propoganda is reverse. Maybe some crazy Muslims attacked us with hijacked planes. But a desperate left wing created a 9-11 truth conspiracy to tarnish a Republican president so he wouldn't become a war-time hero and prevent a Democrat from ever taking office again.

You truthers are useful idiots indeed.

I tend to think that if a Democrat was in the Oval Office at the time of the attacks, these loons would just be taking the opposite side of what ever they decided to do post 9/11. The day itself would have the same results because you would have had the same results regardless of who was POTUS be it Gore, Mother Theresa, etc... There was no US Government complicity in the planning or the execution of the attacks.

Anyone who says there was is simply misinformed or a liar.

 

[eots]

Candytroll

 

[Obamerican]

Candytroll

 

[mudwhistle]

Propaganda?
Said there where none?
This is the entire problem
this report is 8 weeks prior to us invading Iraq
Blix: weapons and anthrax still unaccounted for - Telegraph
Iraq has not yet come to genuinely accept disarmament, according to Hans Blix, the United Nations's chief weapons inspector.
Iraq has co-operated with his team on providing access but it needed to go further, Mr Blix told the UN Security Council.
He said: "It would appear from our experience so far that Iraq has decided in principle to provide co-operation on process, notably access.
"A similar decision is indispensable to provide co-operation on substance in order to bring the disarmament task to completion, through the peaceful process of inspection, and to bring the monitoring task on a firm course."
Touching on the question of how much time inspectors need, he said he shared "the sense of urgency" to achieve disarmament within "a reasonable period of time".
The UN Security Council was meeting to hear Mr Blix's first report following the return of weapons inspectors to Iraq last November.
Of the declaration of weapons made by Iraq under UN resolution 1441, he said: "Regrettably, the 12,000-page declaration does not seem to contain any new material."
Mr Blix said the declaration had failed to account for 6,500 chemical warfare bombs, adding that 12 empty chemical warheads recently found in a bunker south of Baghdad "could be the tip of the iceberg".
Iraq had also failed to prove it had destroyed all of its anthrax, Mr Blix said. There were "strong indications" that it had produced more than it had admitted.
He recalled that Iraq had declared that it produced 8,500 litres of anthrax and unilaterally destroyed the stock in the summer of 1991. But there was "no convincing evidence of destruction," he said.

Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity - SourceWatch

Whistleblowing and Iraq

Two Years Before 9/11, Bush was Already Talking About Attacking Iraq

TomPaine.com - Proof Bush Fixed The Facts

[redacted] news: JB Campbell: Curve Ball - CIA and The So-Called Americans

FACT: According to documents, "Saddam Hussein warned his Iraqi supporters to be wary of joining forces with foreign Arab fighters entering Iraq to battle U.S. troops. The document provides another piece of evidence challenging the Bush administration contention of close cooperation between Saddam's regime and al Qaeda terrorists." [NY Times, 1/15/04]

FACT: "CIA interrogators have already elicited from the top Qaeda officials in custody that, before the American-led invasion, Osama bin Laden had rejected entreaties from some of his lieutenants to work jointly with Saddam." [NY Times, 1/15/04]

FACT: "Sec. of State Colin Powell conceded Thursday that despite his assertions to the United Nations last year, he had no 'smoking gun' proof of a link between the government of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and terrorists of al-Qaeda.'I have not seen smoking-gun, concrete evidence about the connection,' Powell said." [NY Times, 1/9/04]

FACT:Three former Bush Administration officials who worked on intelligence and national security issues said the prewar evidence tying Al Qaeda was tenuous, exaggerated and often at odds with the conclusions of key intelligence agencies. [National Journal, 8/9/03]

FACT: Declassified documents undercut Bush administration claims before the war that Hussein had links to Al Qaeda [LA Times, 7/19/03].

FACT: The chairman of the monitoring group appointed by the United Nations Security Council to track Al Qaeda told reporters that his team had found no evidence linking Al Qaeda to Saddam Hussein. [NY Times, 6/27/03]

FACT: "U.S. allies have found no links between Iraq and Al Qaeda. 'We have found no evidence of links between Iraq and Al Qaeda,' said Europe's top investigator. 'If there were such links, we would have found them. But we have found no serious connections whatsoever.'" [LA Times, 11/4/02]

FACT: No WMD have been found. According to Reuters on 9/15/03 , the Administration's hand picked weapons inspector has come up with no WMD on his visit to Iraq. A draft report on the search for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq provides no solid evidence that Iraq had such arms when the United States invaded the country in March. (Note: the chemical weapons Bush was referring to at the time never materialized.)

FACT: Despite the claim that Iraq's supposed WMD posed an imminent threat to the U.S., Secretary of State Colin Powell said on 2/24/01 that Saddam Hussein has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction.

http://www.americanprogress.org/kf/priraqclaimfact1029.htm

9/11 Summary

How The United States Illegally Armed Saddam Hussein

Reagan's WMD Connection to Saddam Hussein by Jacob G. Hornberger

The New York Times is a terrible source if you want to find non-biased news and information. They've been caught numerous times fabricating news. One example is Jayson Blair, who was caught red-handed fabricating a story. On numerous occasions they have published OPINION pieces and tried to pass it off as facts.

Dude, Bush is out of office. Move the fuck on.

 

[mudwhistle]

War on terror takes us everywhere to"wipe out Al Qaeda" The plan to invade Afghanistan was needed to secure the pipelines. Framing Iraq could have limited the military intervention and wars to Iraq.


There were rumors of a plan to plant WMDs in Iraq to justify the invasion and war, but according to the sources, planting them and "finding" them would have been difficult to explain after weapons inspectors continually said there were none, and then the possibility of them being traced back to the US and getting caught red handed wouldn't have looked so good. This was not needed to be done though, as the wars kicked off and the objectives were reached and well under way already.
You asked why all the conspiracy about 9-11? Ask the government, they started the conspiracy theory, then when citizens started to ask questions about the many anomalies, they are the ones being called conspiracy theorists.
IMO, 9/11 was a massive and cruel hoax foisted upon the world, done in order to spark the obscene "war on terror", to cover up financial fraud and to further the ends of the global elite. 9/11 was only the most egregious of several other recent false-flag terror operations.
Keep in mind "Propaganda works by tricking people into believing a lie, then relying on their unwillingness to admit error to imprison them there." author unknown

Guess the inspectors missed hundreds of tons of yellow-cake uranium.

But nobody's perfect.

Iraq is a big country. It could be buried anywhere, and Turkey prevented 4th Armored from invading from the North so Russian Spitznaz solders could get what was left out of the country and ship it to Syria and Jordan, and all of those flights that they claimed went North and...

..WAIT A MINUTE!!!! Why the heck are we still talking about WMDs again? This is all old news. We need to talk about Click and Clack, and Cowboy Poetry. Oh and why the hell aren't we talking about our brackets? Let's get back on track folks.

 

[Mr. Jones]

Guess the inspectors missed hundreds of tons of yellow-cake uranium.

But nobody's perfect.

Iraq is a big country. It could be buried anywhere, and Turkey prevented 4th Armored from invading from the North so Russian Spitznaz solders could get what was left out of the country and ship it to Syria and Jordan, and all of those flights that they claimed went North and...

..WAIT A MINUTE!!!! Why the heck are we still talking about WMDs again? This is all old news. We need to talk about Click and Clack, and Cowboy Poetry. Oh and why the hell aren't we talking about our brackets? Let's get back on track folks.

Just so you know-you misquoted these posts.

 

[Mr. Jones]

Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity - SourceWatch

Whistleblowing and Iraq

Two Years Before 9/11, Bush was Already Talking About Attacking Iraq

TomPaine.com - Proof Bush Fixed The Facts

[redacted] news: JB Campbell: Curve Ball - CIA and The So-Called Americans

FACT: According to documents, "Saddam Hussein warned his Iraqi supporters to be wary of joining forces with foreign Arab fighters entering Iraq to battle U.S. troops. The document provides another piece of evidence challenging the Bush administration contention of close cooperation between Saddam's regime and al Qaeda terrorists." [NY Times, 1/15/04]

FACT: "CIA interrogators have already elicited from the top Qaeda officials in custody that, before the American-led invasion, Osama bin Laden had rejected entreaties from some of his lieutenants to work jointly with Saddam." [NY Times, 1/15/04]

FACT: "Sec. of State Colin Powell conceded Thursday that despite his assertions to the United Nations last year, he had no 'smoking gun' proof of a link between the government of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and terrorists of al-Qaeda.'I have not seen smoking-gun, concrete evidence about the connection,' Powell said." [NY Times, 1/9/04]

FACT:Three former Bush Administration officials who worked on intelligence and national security issues said the prewar evidence tying Al Qaeda was tenuous, exaggerated and often at odds with the conclusions of key intelligence agencies. [National Journal, 8/9/03]

FACT: Declassified documents undercut Bush administration claims before the war that Hussein had links to Al Qaeda [LA Times, 7/19/03].

FACT: The chairman of the monitoring group appointed by the United Nations Security Council to track Al Qaeda told reporters that his team had found no evidence linking Al Qaeda to Saddam Hussein. [NY Times, 6/27/03]

FACT: "U.S. allies have found no links between Iraq and Al Qaeda. 'We have found no evidence of links between Iraq and Al Qaeda,' said Europe's top investigator. 'If there were such links, we would have found them. But we have found no serious connections whatsoever.'" [LA Times, 11/4/02]

FACT: No WMD have been found. According to Reuters on 9/15/03 , the Administration's hand picked weapons inspector has come up with no WMD on his visit to Iraq. A draft report on the search for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq provides no solid evidence that Iraq had such arms when the United States invaded the country in March. (Note: the chemical weapons Bush was referring to at the time never materialized.)

FACT: Despite the claim that Iraq's supposed WMD posed an imminent threat to the U.S., Secretary of State Colin Powell said on 2/24/01 that Saddam Hussein has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction.

http://www.americanprogress.org/kf/priraqclaimfact1029.htm

9/11 Summary

How The United States Illegally Armed Saddam Hussein

Reagan's WMD Connection to Saddam Hussein by Jacob G. Hornberger

The New York Times is a terrible source if you want to find non-biased news and information. They've been caught numerous times fabricating news. One example is Jayson Blair, who was caught red-handed fabricating a story. On numerous occasions they have published OPINION pieces and tried to pass it off as facts.

Dude, Bush is out of office. Move the fuck on.

He was in office when the shit happened-Dude.

 

[JRK]

The New York Times is a terrible source if you want to find non-biased news and information. They've been caught numerous times fabricating news. One example is Jayson Blair, who was caught red-handed fabricating a story. On numerous occasions they have published OPINION pieces and tried to pass it off as facts.

Dude, Bush is out of office. Move the fuck on.

He was in office when the shit happened-Dude.

It matters allot. It boils down to the very reason BHO is the president of the Unites States is the amount of Incorrect Information (lies, 1/4 truths and 1/2 truths) repeated 1 million times about GWB
It is the direction of this country 4 ever
It is the most important thing we who believe this country is being led by people who do not have our best interest at heart in our lifetime as it accounts to being a patriot, outside of defending this country with arm

To start with GWB talked about Iraq policy 2 years prior to 3/2003 because in October 1998 we made it our policy to remove Saddam
Iraq Liberation Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Act declared that it was the Policy of the United States to support "regime ... US President Bill Clinton signed the bill into law on October 31, 1998. ... efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and ...

And no better example can be given to the amount of lies that surround these events than that. you have an act by congress and signed by the president in 1998 spun into GWB talked about Iraq 2 years before invading them. Are you kidding me?
Let me add the very event that triggered the invasion came from the U.N.
1/28/2003

The Blix Report: Anthrax, missiles and nerve gas... all missing - World Politics, World - The Independent

Iraq has on the whole cooperated rather well so far with UNMOVIC in this field. The most important point to make is access has been provided to all sites we have wanted to inspect and with one exception it has been prompt. ...

I am obliged to note some recent disturbing incidents and harassment. For instance, for some time far-fetched allegations have been made publicly that questions posed by inspectors were of intelligence character. Iraq knows they do not serve intelligence purposes and Iraq should not say so.

Paragraph 9 of resolution 1441 (2002) states that this cooperation shall be "active". It is not enough to open doors. Inspection is not a game of "catch as catch can". ...

Chemical weapons

The nerve agent VX is one of the most toxic ever developed. Iraq has declared that it only produced VX on a pilot scale, just a few tonnes and that the quality was poor and the product unstable. Consequently, it was said, the agent was never weaponised.

UNMOVIC, however, has information that conflicts with this account. There are indications that Iraq had worked on the problem of purity and stabilisation and that more had been achieved than has been declared. ...

I would now like to turn to the so-called "Air Force document" that I have discussed with the Council before.

This document was originally found by an UNSCOM inspector in a safe in Iraqi Air Force Headquarters in 1998 and taken from her by Iraqi minders. It gives an account of the expenditure of bombs, including chemical bombs, by Iraq in the Iraq-Iran War.

I am encouraged by the fact that Iraq has now provided this document to UNMOVIC. The document indicates that 13,000 chemical bombs were dropped by the Iraqi Air Force between 1983 and 1988, while Iraq has declared that 19,500 bombs were consumed during this period. Thus there is a discrepancy of 6,500 bombs.

The amount of chemical agent in these bombs would be in the order of about 1,000 tonnes. In the absence of evidence to the contrary, we must assume these quantities are now unaccounted for.

The discovery of a number of 122mm chemical rocket warheads in a bunker at a storage depot 170km south-west of Baghdad was much publicised. This was a relatively new bunker and therefore the rockets must have been moved there in the past few years, at a time when Iraq should not have had such munitions. ...

The finding of the rockets shows that Iraq needs to make more effort to ensure that its declaration is currently accurate. During my recent discussions in Baghdad, Iraq declared that it would make new efforts in this regard and had set up a committee of investigation. Since then it has reported that it has found a further four chemical rockets at a storage depot in Al Taji.

Biological weapons

Iraq has declared that it produced about 8,500 litres of (anthrax), which it states it unilaterally destroyed in the summer of 1991. Iraq has provided little evidence for this production and no convincing evidence for its destruction.

There are strong indications that Iraq produced more anthrax than it declared, and that at least some of this was retained after the declared destruction date. ...

As I reported to the Council on 19 December last year, Iraq did not declare a significant quantity, some 650kg, of bacterial growth media, which was acknowledged as imported in Iraq's submission to the Amorim panel in February 1999.

As part of its 7 December 2002 declaration, Iraq resubmitted the Amorim panel document, but the table showing this particular import of media was not included. The absence of this table would appear to be deliberate as the pages of the resubmitted document were renumbered. ... I note that the quantity of media involved would suffice to produce, for example, about 5,000 litres of concentrated anthrax.

Missiles

There has been a range of developments in the missile field during the past four years presented by Iraq as non-proscribed activities. Two projects in particular stand out. They are the development of a liquid-fuelled missile named the Al Samoud 2, and a solid propellant missile called the Al Fatah.

Both missiles have been tested to a range in excess of the permitted range of 150km ... The Al Samoud's diameter was increased from an earlier version to the present 760mm. This modification was made despite a 1994 letter from the executive chairman of UNSCOM directing Iraq to limit its missile diameters to less than 600mm. ...

During my recent meeting in Baghdad, we were briefed on these two programmes. We were told the final range for both systems would be less than the permitted maximum range of 150km. These missiles might well represent prima facie cases of proscribed systems. In the meantime, we have asked Iraq to cease flight tests of both missiles. ...

Also associated with these missiles and related developments is the import, which has been taking place during the last few years, of a number of items despite the sanctions, including as late as December 2002. Foremost amongst these is the import of 380 rocket engines which may be used for the Al Samoud 2. What is clear is that they were illegally brought into Iraq, that is, Iraq or some company in Iraq circumvented the restrictions imposed by various resolutions.

Mr President, I have touched upon some of the disarmament issues that remain open and need to be answered if dossiers are to be closed and confidence to arise. Which are the means at the disposal of Iraq to answer these questions?

Our Iraqi counterparts are fond of saying there are no proscribed items and if no evidence is presented to the contrary they should have the benefit of the doubt and be presumed innocent. UNMOVIC, for its part, is not presuming that there are proscribed items and activities in Iraq, but nor is it – or I think anyone else after the inspections between 1991 and 1998 – presuming the opposite, that no such items and activities exist in Iraq. Presumptions do not solve the problem. Evidence and full transparency may help. Let me be specific.

Find the items and activities

So far we have reported on the recent find of a small number of empty 122mm warheads for chemical weapons. Iraq declared that it appointed a commission of inquiry to look for more. Fine. Why not extend the search to other items? Declare what may be found and destroy it under our supervision?

Find documents

When we have urged our Iraqi counterparts to present more evidence, we have all too often met the response that there are no more documents. ... However, Iraq has all the archives of the Government and its various departments, institutions and mechanisms. It should have budgetary documents, requests for funds and reports on how they have been used. ...

In response to a recent UNMOVIC request for a number of specific documents, the only new documents Iraq provided was a ledger of 193 pages which Iraq stated included all imports from 1983 to 1990 by the Technical and Scientific Importation Division, the importing authority for the biological weapons programme. Potentially, it might help to clear some open issues.

The recent inspection find in the private home of a scientist of some 3,000 pages of documents relating to laser enrichment of uranium support a concern that has long existed that documents might be distributed to the homes of private individuals. This interpretation is refuted by the Iraqi side, which claims research staff sometimes may bring home papers from their workplaces.

On our side, we cannot help but think the case might not be isolated and such placements of documents are deliberate. Any further sign of the concealment of documents would be serious. ...

Find persons to give credible information

When Iraq claims tangible evidence in the form of documents is not available, it ought at least to find individuals, engineers, scientists and managers to testify about their experience.

UNMOVIC asked for a list of such persons, in accordance with resolution 1441. Some 400 names for all biological and chemical weapons programmes as well as their missile programmes were pro- vided by the Iraqi side. This can be compared to over 3,500 names of people associated with those past weapons programmes that UNSCOM interviewed in the 1990s or knew from documents and other sources.

At my recent meeting in Baghdad, the Iraqi side committed itself to supplementing the list and some 80 additional names have been provided.

Allow information through credible interviews

In the past, much valuable information came from interviews. There were also cases in which the interviewee was clearly intimidated by the presence of Iraqi officials. This was the background of resolution 1441's provision for a right for UNMOVIC and the IAEA to hold private interviews "in the mode or location" of our choice, in Baghdad or even abroad.

To date, 11 individuals were asked for interviews in Baghdad by us. The replies have invariably been that the individual will only speak at Iraq's monitoring directorate or in the presence of an Iraqi official. At our recent talks in Baghdad, the Iraqi side committed itself to encourage persons to accept interviews "in private", that is to say alone with us. Despite this, the pattern has not changed.

UNMOVIC's capability

Mr President, I must not conclude this update without some notes on the growing capability of UNMOVIC.

In the past two months, UNMOVIC has built up its capabilities in Iraq from nothing to 260 staff members from 60 countries. All serve the United Nations and report to no one else. In the past two months, we have conducted about 300 inspections on more than 230 different sites.

Mr President, we have now an inspection apparatus that permits us to send multiple inspection teams all over Iraq, by road or air. Let me end by simply noting that that capability, built up in a short time and now operating, is at the disposal of the Security Council.




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