9/11 Conspiracy Solved?: Names, Connections, Details Exposed...

[paulitician]

Gee we went to public schools and we came out differently...You know like individuals............

Your video is full of BS.........

Did we?

 

[SFC Ollie]

Most of us........Some of us didn't go to school at all......... Are you one of those?

 

[daws101]

a quick check of this thread confirms that eots is still using the gibberish line when his ass is handed to him (on a nearly daily basis I might add !)
sister jones, as always is chasing imaginary demons.
hand job is .....well, handjob.
as for the rest of the twoofer club , I just hope there's enough Reynolds wrap to go around!

 

[paulitician]

Most of us........Some of us didn't go to school at all......... Are you one of those?

lol! Nice. You're very loyal to Big Brother. I seriously doubt you'll ever wake up. It's probably way too late for you. I think the Country is changing though. More & more People are waking up. Our Government lies. It's just what it does. Big Brother is on a real roll. His Police State is upon us. Hopefully, one day Americans will grow weary of the Police State and stand up for change. I'm an optimist, so i still have hope. But i guess we'll see.

 

[PredFan]

Look people, it's quite simple. Just because the government's version of what happened has gaps in it, does not mean that your version is correct. I would be VERY suspicious if the government gave us a report that covered all bases, left no holes and answered everything. Since the government had NOTHING to do with the attacks, and was just as surprised as we were, they had to piece it together from the videos, forensic investigation, and experts in the field. Since they DID NOT do this, the goverment does not have all of the answers and the report is their best guess.

Poke all the holes in the report you want to. You'll never convince any sensible person that your wild ass theories are even remotely correct. The best and most accurate thing you can say is that the government's report isn't 100% accurate.

 

[paulitician]

Look people, it's quite simple. Just because the government's version of what happened has gaps in it, does not mean that your version is correct. I would be VERY suspicious if the government gave us a report that covered all bases, left no holes and answered everything. Since the government had NOTHING to do with the attacks, and was just as surprised as we were, they had to piece it together from the videos, forensic investigation, and experts in the field. Since they DID NOT do this, the goverment does not have all of the answers and the report is their best guess.

Poke all the holes in the report you want to. You'll never convince any sensible person that your wild ass theories are even remotely correct. The best and most accurate thing you can say is that the government's report isn't 100% accurate.

That's a somewhat fair assessment. However, i still can't completely agree with it. The 9/11 Commission was an awful travesty. They did not conduct a credible investigation. And unfortunately, our Government investigating itself, will never result in a credible investigation. Too many holes and lies in their 9/11 story. They have not been honest. Therefore, it is a cover-up in my opinion. We deserve truth, and we haven't gotten it. And there's nothing wrong with demanding that truth. We owe it to the 9/11 victims and their families.

 

[PredFan]

Look people, it's quite simple. Just because the government's version of what happened has gaps in it, does not mean that your version is correct. I would be VERY suspicious if the government gave us a report that covered all bases, left no holes and answered everything. Since the government had NOTHING to do with the attacks, and was just as surprised as we were, they had to piece it together from the videos, forensic investigation, and experts in the field. Since they DID NOT do this, the goverment does not have all of the answers and the report is their best guess.

Poke all the holes in the report you want to. You'll never convince any sensible person that your wild ass theories are even remotely correct. The best and most accurate thing you can say is that the government's report isn't 100% accurate.

That's a somewhat fair assessment. However, i still can't completely agree with it. The 9/11 Commission was an awful travesty. They did not conduct a credible investigation. And unfortunately, our Government investigating itself, will never result in a credible investigation. Too many holes and lies in their 9/11 story. They have not been honest. Therefore, it is a cover-up in my opinion. We deserve truth, and we haven't gotten it. And there's nothing wrong with demanding that truth. We owe it to the 9/11 victims and their families.

Why would you need more than the report states? The terrorists flew the planes into the buildings, we all saw the planes hit, the report makes sense, matches what we know so what is the minutia going to tell us?

 

[Mr. Jones]

Why would you need more than the report states? The terrorists flew the planes into the buildings, we all saw the planes hit, the report makes sense, matches what we know so what is the minutia going to tell us?[/QUOTE]

The panelist of the 9-11 commission itself doubt they were told the truth, suspecting they were lied to even contemplated criminal charges, that's why. There is no solid proof of any of what you believe they told you is correct. Proof that doubting the original narrative is warranted is vast and comes from many credible sources, and if you include the 9-11 commission as a credible source, then their doubts about its accuracy also should be taken seriously, and given merit.

 

[PredFan]

Why would you need more than the report states? The terrorists flew the planes into the buildings, we all saw the planes hit, the report makes sense, matches what we know so what is the minutia going to tell us?

The panelist of the 9-11 commission itself doubt they were told the truth, suspecting they were lied to even contemplated criminal charges, that's why. There is no solid proof of any of what you believe they told you is correct. Proof that doubting the original narrative is warranted is vast and comes from many credible sources, and if you include the 9-11 commission as a credible source, then their doubts about its accuracy also should be taken seriously, and given merit.

Not true. The report states that a group of Islamic terrorists flew the planes into the buildings. We saw the planes hit the buildings. We saw video of the terrorists boarding the planes, we heard the cell phone calls of the people on the plane that crashed. We watched the buildings come down, we see the wreckage. It all fits. So the story has holes in it. That's because the government doesn't know everything. They are giving us their best guess. Which is all anyone can do since the people who did it are all dead.

 

[GuyPinestra]

Anyone that believes 3 steel-framed buildings can collapse at freefall speed INTO THEIR OWN FOOTPRINT, WITHOUT the aid of explosive demolition, is an idiot or a tool.

It's NEVER happened in history, even when buildings suffered much greater damage for much longer periods of time.

Deal...

 

[SFC Ollie]

Once again, please tell us specifically what the 011 Commissions Report writers think is wrong with the report...What is it they think is false.........They certainly don't believe there was an inside joke er Job.......

 

[SFC Ollie]

Anyone that believes 3 steel-framed buildings can collapse at freefall speed INTO THEIR OWN FOOTPRINT, WITHOUT the aid of explosive demolition, is an idiot or a tool.

It's NEVER happened in history, even when buildings suffered much greater damage for much longer periods of time.

Deal...

They neither fell at free fall nor collapsed into their own footprint.... Please play again........

 

[GuyPinestra]

Anyone that believes 3 steel-framed buildings can collapse at freefall speed INTO THEIR OWN FOOTPRINT, WITHOUT the aid of explosive demolition, is an idiot or a tool.

It's NEVER happened in history, even when buildings suffered much greater damage for much longer periods of time.

Deal...

They neither fell at free fall nor collapsed into their own footprint.... Please play again........

Gawd, you really are a tool, Gomer. You're wrong on both counts, yet you continue to parrot your lies.

I hope those gov't checks are worth it for you...

 

[daws101]

Why would you need more than the report states? The terrorists flew the planes into the buildings, we all saw the planes hit, the report makes sense, matches what we know so what is the minutia going to tell us?

The panelist of the 9-11 commission itself doubt they were told the truth, suspecting they were lied to even contemplated criminal charges, that's why. There is no solid proof of any of what you believe they told you is correct. Proof that doubting the original narrative is warranted is vast and comes from many credible sources, and if you include the 9-11 commission as a credible source, then their doubts about its accuracy also should be taken seriously, and given merit.[/QUOTE]


merit isn't given...an event,report, story etc.. either has it or it does not....asshat.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Anyone that believes 3 steel-framed buildings can collapse at freefall speed INTO THEIR OWN FOOTPRINT, WITHOUT the aid of explosive demolition, is an idiot or a tool.

It's NEVER happened in history, even when buildings suffered much greater damage for much longer periods of time.

Deal...

They neither fell at free fall nor collapsed into their own footprint.... Please play again........

Gawd, you really are a tool, Gomer. You're wrong on both counts, yet you continue to parrot your lies.

I hope those gov't checks are worth it for you...

Ah insidejoke, I thought it was you.........

Now dumb ass, watch a video of the towers as they fell, The parts that were falling outside the direct path to the ground hit about 16 seconds before the entire building stopped falling.... And if they had fallen into their own footprint then buildings hundreds of feet away from them would not have been hit with debris....

You do have much to learn......

 

[daws101]

Anyone that believes 3 steel-framed buildings can collapse at freefall speed INTO THEIR OWN FOOTPRINT, WITHOUT the aid of explosive demolition, is an idiot or a tool.

It's NEVER happened in history, even when buildings suffered much greater damage for much longer periods of time.

Deal...

not this lame inaccurate steaming pile again!


9/11 Theories: “Fell Into Its Own Footprint”
Posted on October 24, 2010 by curiousplumber88 The twin towers did not fall into their own footprints and neither did WTC7. This is not a matter of opinion, but a stone-cold fact…and I like facts.

So what exactly does it mean for a building to fall into its own footprint? Well it’s a demolition term which describes creating an implosion to destroy a building so it does not damage other buildings surrounding it. Many truthers are fond of calling the destruction of the two towers implosions and claiming that the two buildings fell into their own footprint. Yet, in the same breath they will claim that it is impossible for much of the debris to be ejected out from the collapse without the aid of explosives. So which is it? An implosion or an explosion? Apparently it’s both, and when a person holds an irrational belief, accepting two contrary ideas is incredibly easy.

9/11 Theories: “Fell Into Its Own Footprint” | Mr. Rational

 

[GuyPinestra]

They neither fell at free fall nor collapsed into their own footprint.... Please play again........

Gawd, you really are a tool, Gomer. You're wrong on both counts, yet you continue to parrot your lies.

I hope those gov't checks are worth it for you...

Ah insidejoke, I thought it was you.........

Now dumb ass, watch a video of the towers as they fell, The parts that were falling outside the direct path to the ground hit about 16 seconds before the entire building stopped falling.... And if they had fallen into their own footprint then buildings hundreds of feet away from them would not have been hit with debris....

You do have much to learn......

Look, dumbass, the VAST majority of debris, called "The Pile", was IN THE FOOTPRINT. NONE of those 110 stories fell over sideways, what debris that was blown a few hundred feet was just that, BLOWN there. You can't drop a building of that height without a LITTLE 'spillage'.

And usually when you want someone to watch a video you post the fucking link, Einstein.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Oh hell you can pick and chose just about any of the hundreds of videos and see it...If you are Honest.

Here's a good one...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLShZOvxVe4]9/11 Debunked: World Trade Center - No Free-Fall Speed - YouTube[/ame]

 

[paulitician]

Anyone that believes 3 steel-framed buildings can collapse at freefall speed INTO THEIR OWN FOOTPRINT, WITHOUT the aid of explosive demolition, is an idiot or a tool.

It's NEVER happened in history, even when buildings suffered much greater damage for much longer periods of time.

Deal...

Yup.

 

[Mr. Jones]

Why would you need more than the report states? The terrorists flew the planes into the buildings, we all saw the planes hit, the report makes sense, matches what we know so what is the minutia going to tell us?

The panelist of the 9-11 commission itself doubt they were told the truth, suspecting they were lied to even contemplated criminal charges, that's why. There is no solid proof of any of what you believe they told you is correct. Proof that doubting the original narrative is warranted is vast and comes from many credible sources, and if you include the 9-11 commission as a credible source, then their doubts about its accuracy also should be taken seriously, and given merit.

The part in bold is not my quote, not my saying, please learn how to use the quote function when responding.

Not true. The report states that a group of Islamic terrorists flew the planes into the buildings.

Doubtful and Not proven. You are crediting a report that the writers themselves have said is not accurate, and untruthful in some instances. Read about this it is well documented.

We saw video of the terrorists boarding the planes,

No you didn't see a video of them actually boarding the planes they allegedly hijacked. Link please..

we heard the cell phone calls of the people on the plane that crashed.

How do you know this to be true, when according to many sources, cell phone technology
did not have the capability to keep a connection back in 2001, at such speeds and altitudes.The FBI is documented and on record as contradicting themselves about these calls, in other judicial proceedings.

We watched the buildings come down, we see the wreckage.

Right, but that does not mean jet fuel melted/weakened the massive steel components and moved the tons of massive steel components out of the way to facilitate such rapid descents. Science and physics prove this to be an impossibility.
Of course we watched the buildings come down as well, but the physics and real world possibilities of them collapsing in the short amount of time they did is doubted by physics and science. It is not enough to say something just happened, and letting it go, but inquiring minds that studied these things deeper led to the questions and research that has severely raised doubts as to the HOW it even could have occurred with the available energy, and within the very short times.
WTC 7 was not hit by a plane, there was no "jet fuel" as an accelerant, had asymmetrical fires and damage, yet experienced a symmetrical free fall for the first 108 ft. and the towers came down in a manner that provided "seemingly no resistance" according to NIST.
That is not possible in the real world of science and physics, and in the history of steel hirise building structure..
NIST didn't even take the time to explain WHY these massive structures, whose lower sections, were more robust and sturdier, and therefore SHOULD have provided WAY more resistance to the collapse wave, appeared to "seemingly have no resistance" collapsing in visibly explosive fashion.

It all fits.

No it doesn't, not when you really study what is actually involved in these scenarios and instances.

So the story has holes in it.

That's the understatement of the century, about the one of the great lies of the century. More like their story has LIES all over it, along with unprovable guesses like you mentioned.

That's because the government doesn't know everything.

Bullshit, they know more about what really happened then they let on, that is why they have been caught in the many lies, and inconsistencies. That is why the 9-11 commission panelists had to admit they were hampered in their efforts and why they said they and the rest of the American public does not know the truth, and should keep asking for the answers.

They are giving us their best guess.

No, it isn't their best guess or their best efforts at a guess. They are telling you what their intell tells them YOU will except and go on your merry satisfied way with.
If the government doesn't know everything like you say, then that means WE don't either. It is up to us to use our God given capacity to sort this stuff out, instead of trusting their guesses that has led to death and destruction, and have historically been proven to be dead wrong. In case you haven't noticed...

Which is all anyone can do since the people who did it are all dead.

So you are satisfied with a mere guess that has cost trillions in treasure, millions in lives,
wars, a police state apparatus? Among other things based on unprovable fucking guesses, that have been shown to be the most improbable of all? This coming from a historically deviously untruthful entity, which is sadly, your own government and their propaganda spewing media.

Furthermore if you need to ask what it is the writers and panelists of the 9-11 commission report are objecting to about in their own damned report, then look it up. It is well documented, and I got the information they put out about it from the same sources you'll find.
Also each and everyone of the things you have just mentioned regarding what is in the report has been questioned at length, and upon further review found to be unsubstantiated, and not provable.

The ramifications that the attacks caused on our nation, are too serious to be based solely on poor unprovable "guesses", and unscientific data, and BS hypothesis.

The 9-11 Commission is a cover up, and largely untruthful. This is according to some of the people who participated in its drafting. There are many things about it that even many victims families pointed out, and it was them that spawned the idea of a "truth movement" in the first place.