82% of MA voters want Scott Brown to work WITH the Democrats

[ihopehefails]

What would would be the point of brown attempting to work with the democrats on death care since they lock out everyone but their own party. He is going to vote along with the republicans and good for him and stop touting bi-partisanship as some wholy grail of political virture. I personally don't want him to work with anyone trying to create death panels and take over the medical system. Anyone who does should be shot as a matter of moral justice and that includes repbulicans and democrats.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The only death panels are those by the insurance industry that will not cover treatment for those who are incredibly ill. To suggest anything else is nothing more than facile immorality simply to win points.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

ROFL, Dems are the "Party of No" now.

You people crack me up. Seriously.

What was funny was when the Democrats were on the floor of the Senate saying that they were willing to accept like 60 Republican amendments to the health care legislation, and the REPUBLICANS VOTED NO ON THEIR OWN AMENDMENTS.

YouTube - Senate Republicans Block Own Amendments on Health Care Bill

You people have been saying "No" so much, that you don't even listen to the questions anymore.

Wow...talk about posting a whole bunch of BULLSHIT!!!!!!! First of all it was a COMMITTEE meeting and secondly..I didn't hear anything about Republicans voting their own amendments down....where did you see that?

Umm, watch the video...

It's only a couple of minutes long, surely your attention span covers that...

Your a LIAR!!!!! You claimed to have VIDEO OF REPUBLICANS VOTING DOWN THEIR AMENDMENTS ON THE SENATE FLOOR AND IT DOESN'T SHOW THAT!!!

YOU LIED...YOU GOT THAT????!!!!! Everyone else here does!!!!!!!

 

[PatekPhilippe]

I've been saying all along that if Brown doesn't become a key figure in a health care compromise he is done in 2012.

If he just falls in line with the GOP and votes in lockstep with them he's done in 2012.

But you fail to understand that rdean lied about the poll. It didn't ask if he should work with the dems on their HC bill, but if he should work with them to get Republican Ideas into a health care bill. Major difference without the spin.

I couldn't care less about the poll.

I repeat: If Brown doesn't become a key figure in a health care compromise he is done in 2012.

If he just falls in line with the GOP and votes in lockstep with them he's done in 2012.

That's the bottom line. The Massachusetts voters either gave America a gift or gave the Republicans enough rope to hang themselves...it's all up to Senator Brown.

 

[Revere]

Americans reject this scheme for government run health care. What is the compromise position on that?

Isn't all the bloviating about the Blue Dogs or the Republicans being "finished" for not supporting Obamacare getting old? Martha Coakley said unequivocally she would support it. It would have passed with her election. But she got her head handed to her instead.

 

[WillowTree]

...while an awesome 11% want him to work mainly to stop the Democratic agenda.

So much for the BIG message being sent. But hey, we told you so.

70% want Brown to work WITH the Democrats on their healthcare plan, vs. only 28% wanting him to try to stop the changes.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-sr...arvard_MassPoll_Jan22.pdf?sid=ST2010012203176

count me in the group who want him to stop the insanity. no backroom deals, no buying votes, no special favors for votes,, stop it dead in it corruptive tracks.. you want cooperation? come out in the open, let the sunshine in, C-span... You got something good, then why hide it?

 

[oreo]

...while an awesome 11% want him to work mainly to stop the Democratic agenda.

So much for the BIG message being sent. But hey, we told you so.

70% want Brown to work WITH the Democrats on their healthcare plan, vs. only 28% wanting him to try to stop the changes.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-sr...arvard_MassPoll_Jan22.pdf?sid=ST2010012203176

Nice try--while everyone in America would actually like to see Democrats & Republicans working together to come up with Good bills for this country--MASS clearly voted to stop the current health care plan. In fact, Scott Brown's poll numbers SHOT up directly after Harry Reid slammed his version through the senate.

All Americans want medical insurance reform to reduce the cost of medical insurance--but the overwhelming majority DO NOT want a government take over of health care.

Trying to spin this won't work. If you & other liberal democrats do not realise that this was a HUGE--historic loss to the liberal ideology compared to average working-taxpaying American citizens & what they really want--your hope of having a majority in the congress or senate again are decades away.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The whackos are misstating the reality that Mass voters want Scott Brown to work with the GOP on creating a reform bill.

 

[NYcarbineer]

...while an awesome 11% want him to work mainly to stop the Democratic agenda.

So much for the BIG message being sent. But hey, we told you so.

70% want Brown to work WITH the Democrats on their healthcare plan, vs. only 28% wanting him to try to stop the changes.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-sr...arvard_MassPoll_Jan22.pdf?sid=ST2010012203176

Nice try--while everyone in America would actually like to see Democrats & Republicans working together to come up with Good bills for this country--MASS clearly voted to stop the current health care plan. In fact, Scott Brown's poll numbers SHOT up directly after Harry Reid slammed his version through the senate.

All Americans want medical insurance reform to reduce the cost of medical insurance--but the overwhelming majority DO NOT want a government take over of health care.

Trying to spin this won't work. If you & other liberal democrats do not realise that this was a HUGE--historic loss to the liberal ideology compared to average working-taxpaying American citizens & what they really want--your hope of having a majority in the congress or senate again are decades away.

Read the poll. Massachusetts voters were only slightly opposed to the current healthcare proposal, almost evenly split.

 

[mudwhistle]

...while an awesome 11% want him to work mainly to stop the Democratic agenda.

So much for the BIG message being sent. But hey, we told you so.

70% want Brown to work WITH the Democrats on their healthcare plan, vs. only 28% wanting him to try to stop the changes.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-sr...arvard_MassPoll_Jan22.pdf?sid=ST2010012203176

I wonder if they corralled a bunch of Libs to get this poll.

The vote was a rejection of Democrat and Obama policies not a call for cooperation. They could have gotten total cooperation if they had voted for Martha instead of Scott so this thread is pointless.

 

[Annie]

...while an awesome 11% want him to work mainly to stop the Democratic agenda.

So much for the BIG message being sent. But hey, we told you so.

70% want Brown to work WITH the Democrats on their healthcare plan, vs. only 28% wanting him to try to stop the changes.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-sr...arvard_MassPoll_Jan22.pdf?sid=ST2010012203176

Nice try--while everyone in America would actually like to see Democrats & Republicans working together to come up with Good bills for this country--MASS clearly voted to stop the current health care plan. In fact, Scott Brown's poll numbers SHOT up directly after Harry Reid slammed his version through the senate.

All Americans want medical insurance reform to reduce the cost of medical insurance--but the overwhelming majority DO NOT want a government take over of health care.

Trying to spin this won't work. If you & other liberal democrats do not realise that this was a HUGE--historic loss to the liberal ideology compared to average working-taxpaying American citizens & what they really want--your hope of having a majority in the congress or senate again are decades away.

Read the poll. Massachusetts voters were only slightly opposed to the current healthcare proposal, almost evenly split.

I have,several times.

Washington Post-Kaiser-Harvard Massachusetts special election poll
4. In deciding your vote for the special election, how much of a factor was (INSERT
ITEM) – was it extremely important, very important, not so important, or less
important than that?
Question asked of voters only
Extremely
important Very important Not so important
Less
important
than that
Not
important
at all (vol.) Don’tknow Refused
a. Health care reform
efforts in Washington
Total Voters 56 33 8 1 * 1 -
Brown Voters 62 31 5 1 * 1 -
Coakley Voters 50 36 11 2 * 1 -
b. The economy and jobs
Total Voters 44 44 9 2 1 * *
Brown Voters 49 42 7 1 1 - -
Coakley Voters 38 46 10 4 1 * *
c. Taxes
Total Voters 28 39 25 7 1 * *
Brown Voters 40 41 17 2 - * -
Coakley Voters 14 37 33 13 2 * *
d. The candidates’
leadership and personal
qualities
Total Voters 32 47 15 5 1 * -
Brown Voters 39 49 8 3 1 * -
Coakley Voters 24 45 23 6 1 * -
e. The federal budget
deficit
Total Voters 34 36 23 5 1 1 *
Brown Voters 48 36 12 2 - 1 *
Coakley Voters 19 36 34 8 2 1 -
f. Local and
Massachusetts state
issues
Total Voters 26 46 19 7 1 * *
Brown Voters 27 47 17 6 1 1 *
Coakley Voters 24 45 22 9 1 * *
g. The Obama
administration’s policies
on terrorism suspects
Total Voters 29 33 23 9 2 3 *
Brown Voters 37 35 19 5 1 2 *
Coakley Voters 21 31 29 14 2 3 -
h. The government’s
handling of banks and
financial institutions
Total Voters 29 41 21 7 1 1 *
Brown Voters 31 40 22 5 * 2 *
Coakley Voters 26 42 20 10 1 * *
i. The way Washington is
working
Total Voters 39 42 12 5 1 1 *
Brown Voters 54 36 7 2 - 1 *
Coakley Voters 23 49 17 8 1 2 *

These are not 'close' numbers, not by a long shot.

 

[Titanic Sailor]

Democrats HAD a good health care bill, but they kept stripping it down to appease ridiculous Republicans.

you have got to be kidding me. Dumbest post of the year award to rdean?

 

[Revere]

Massachusetts has its own health care program, and they had the chance to vote for a candidate who supported Obamacare lock, stock, and barrel.

 

[del]

...while an awesome 11% want him to work mainly to stop the Democratic agenda.

So much for the BIG message being sent. But hey, we told you so.

70% want Brown to work WITH the Democrats on their healthcare plan, vs. only 28% wanting him to try to stop the changes.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-sr...arvard_MassPoll_Jan22.pdf?sid=ST2010012203176

that must be why coakley, who fully supported the bill, won by such a huge margin over brown, who promised to vote against it.

oh, wait...

 

[NYcarbineer]

...while an awesome 11% want him to work mainly to stop the Democratic agenda.

So much for the BIG message being sent. But hey, we told you so.

70% want Brown to work WITH the Democrats on their healthcare plan, vs. only 28% wanting him to try to stop the changes.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-sr...arvard_MassPoll_Jan22.pdf?sid=ST2010012203176

that must be why coakley, who fully supported the bill, won by such a huge margin over brown, who promised to vote against it.

oh, wait...

Everyone, except you apparently, knows she lost because she was a shit candidate.

 

[del]

...while an awesome 11% want him to work mainly to stop the Democratic agenda.

So much for the BIG message being sent. But hey, we told you so.

70% want Brown to work WITH the Democrats on their healthcare plan, vs. only 28% wanting him to try to stop the changes.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-sr...arvard_MassPoll_Jan22.pdf?sid=ST2010012203176

that must be why coakley, who fully supported the bill, won by such a huge margin over brown, who promised to vote against it.

oh, wait...

Everyone, except you apparently, knows she lost because she was a shit candidate.

keep telling yourself that sparky.

 

[NYcarbineer]

[
These are not 'close' numbers, not by a long shot.

Good job citing every number except the one I was talking about.

18. Overall, given what you know about them, would you say you support or oppose the
proposed changes to the health care system being developed by (Congress) and (the
Obama administration)?

Support 43% Oppose 48%

Now what was my statement again? And what are the facts above as compared to my statement?

 

[Sarah G]

Massachusetts has its own health care program, and they had the chance to vote for a candidate who supported Obamacare lock, stock, and barrel.

Thus the reason Healthcare reform had nothing to do with the Ma election. They have Teddy's healthcare plan, they're good.

They and other states want this guy to be his own vote but it won't happen. He got the Indes in this election too bad he isn't strong enough to be one.

 

[Annie]

[
These are not 'close' numbers, not by a long shot.

Good job citing every number except the one I was talking about.

18. Overall, given what you know about them, would you say you support or oppose the
proposed changes to the health care system being developed by (Congress) and (the
Obama administration)?

Support 43% Oppose 48%

Now what was my statement again? And what are the facts above as compared to my statement?

Never said it was the same, that was obvious from my post. Your interpretation of data is the 'not close...'

So let's look at #18, you really believe what your wrote about Brown's supporters? Those numbers are close? What's your definition of statistically significant differences?

18. Overall, given what you know about them, would you say you support or oppose the
proposed changes to the health care system being developed by (Congress) and (the
Obama administration)?
(GET ANSWER, THEN ASK: Do you support/oppose the proposed changes strongly or
somewhat?)
Total
Voters Brown Voters Coakley Voters Non-Voters
43 13 77 49 Support NET
21 5 39 22 Strongly support
23 9 38 27 Somewhat support
48 80 13 39 Oppose NET
12 14 9 10 Somewhat oppose
36 66 4 29 Strongly oppose
8 6 9 12 Don’t know
1 * 1 * Refused

 

[Gunny]

...while an awesome 11% want him to work mainly to stop the Democratic agenda.

So much for the BIG message being sent. But hey, we told you so.

70% want Brown to work WITH the Democrats on their healthcare plan, vs. only 28% wanting him to try to stop the changes.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-sr...arvard_MassPoll_Jan22.pdf?sid=ST2010012203176

You STILL trying to do damage control?

The message was clear: they didn't vote for the Democrat, did they?

So what's the point to all this misrepresentation who wants what. Of course most votes want the two sides to work together. That's a basic to the game of politics.

That doesn't meant hey want the piece of garbage the Dems are trying to force down our throats currently.