72% Believe Small Business Owners Primarily Responsible for Their Own Success

[Navy1960]

Just a thought here, while we as a nation have always treasured individual achievement and small business is no exception, long hours, hard work, in an effort to make a life for oneself and ones family as well as one's community. These folks are like many are to be admired and not admonished or used as political tools, in fact we need to do everything we can to help these businesses thrive , because from small business comes the next Microsoft, Boeing, Ford, Apple, etc. That said, to say that it does not take teamwork to get to where one wants to get to, be it a mentor, or that bank loan, or dare I say it even Govt. is to not take into consideration every aspect of what drives the individual. Just a thought here, it took teamwork to overcome the Axis powers during WW2, it took teamwork to put a man on the moon, and yes it takes teamwork to make the indivudual small businessman a success. Govt. is just one small part of that teamwork, but is not the driving engine that makes the individual thrive, perhaps when Govt. becomes that it should and that is one that creates an atmosphere for pride in American business and partner, then it will thrive even more. In my humble opinion though, Govt. should never be seen as the sole reason for the success of failure or a business because it takes a Capt. to lead a ship and it's Govt's job to help the navigate those waters, not pilot the ship.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Interesting point

Once the Wright brothers demonstrated their concept, who did they sell their airplanes to?

Wasn't the private sector, it was the Government who bought their planes and turned them from inventors to businessmen

Not to mention the government patents that they benefited from.

 

[rightwinger]

Interesting point

Once the Wright brothers demonstrated their concept, who did they sell their airplanes to?

Wasn't the private sector, it was the Government who bought their planes and turned them from inventors to businessmen

Correction...

Government offered them the best contract.

They would have gladly accepted competing cointracts if the government didnt out bid the others.

How many private companies were beating down their doors looking for airplanes? Wasn't the airline industry. Early aviation was supported by the government for military and airmail

 

[gallantwarrior]

See, in a Progressive Utopia like North Korea, they credit Fearless Leader for EVERYTHING! They own him their very lives. That's the degree of Love and Adoration that the Left has for Obama. That's what Obama was talking about, that's the system the American Left embraces and is progressing toward. He heals the sick, he lowers the oceans, he was sent here to care for them, tend to their every need.

Yea....yea

And the conservative utopia is Somalia. No government and everyone looks out for themselves

You keep a picture of Obama in your wallet

He probably keeps a full-size cardboard cutout pasted to the ceiling over his bed. It's most stimulating and a real rush...

 

[Full-Auto]

but remember folks, you didn't hear what you heard Obama say

SNIP:
Monday, July 23, 2012

Most Americans believe entrepreneurs who start businesses do more to create jobs and economic growth than big businesses or government. They also believe overwhelmingly that small business owners work harder than other Americans and are primarily responsible for the success or failure of their businesses.

Seventy-two percent (72%) of Likely U.S. Voters believe that people who start small businesses are primarily responsible for their success or failure. A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that only 13% disagree. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

all of it here
72% Believe Small Business Owners Primarily Responsible for Their Own Success - Rasmussen Reports™

Just think...It wasnt that long ago democrats were arguing small business does not create jobs. Then they were forced to back track as in most topics.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Yea....yea

And the conservative utopia is Somalia. No government and everyone looks out for themselves

You keep a picture of Obama in your wallet

He probably keeps a full-size cardboard cutout pasted to the ceiling over his bed. It's most stimulating and a real rush...

With a dildo strapped to it because he likes being fucked by the government.

 

[SniperFire]

Interesting point

Once the Wright brothers demonstrated their concept, who did they sell their airplanes to?

Wasn't the private sector, it was the Government who bought their planes and turned them from inventors to businessmen

Bullshit. The Wright Brothers went out pounding the pavement worldwide, and it took years for them to make significant sales to the government. :

After the 1905 flying season, the Wrights contacted the United States War Department, as well as governments and individuals in England, France, Germany, and Russia, offering to sell a flying machine. They were turned down time and time again -- government bureaucrats thought they were crackpots; others thought that if two bicycle mechanics could build a successful airplane, they could do it themselves. But the Wright persisted, and in late 1907, the U.S. Army Signal Corps asked for an aircraft. Just a few months later, in early 1908, a French syndicate of businessmen agreed to purchase another.'

http://www.wright-brothers.org/History_Wing/Wright_Story/Wright_Story_Intro/Wright_Story_Intro.htm

I imagine a gubmint dependent such as yourself does not understand that investing in R&D, manufacturing and selling a product makes people 'businessmen' long before the large contracts which come years later makes them a success.

 

[rightwinger]

You keep a picture of Obama in your wallet

He probably keeps a full-size cardboard cutout pasted to the ceiling over his bed. It's most stimulating and a real rush...

With a dildo strapped to it because he likes being fucked by the government.

I, for one, am impressed by the quality and depth of your responses

But, you are conservatives...can I expect more?

 

[Sinjorri]

Lets all praise the government for thinking for us and doing for us and allowing us to be the artists Pelosi says we should be.


FREEDOM EDEN: Nancy Pelosi: Artists, Health Care, and Day Jobs

 

[Skull Pilot]

He probably keeps a full-size cardboard cutout pasted to the ceiling over his bed. It's most stimulating and a real rush...

With a dildo strapped to it because he likes being fucked by the government.

I, for one, am impressed by the quality and depth of your responses

But, you are conservatives...can I expect more?

You would gladly bend over for any government agency. It's your nature as a sheep

 

[ConservaDerrps]

Just a thought here, while we as a nation have always treasured individual achievement and small business is no exception, long hours, hard work, in an effort to make a life for oneself and ones family as well as one's community. These folks are like many are to be admired and not admonished or used as political tools, in fact we need to do everything we can to help these businesses thrive , because from small business comes the next Microsoft, Boeing, Ford, Apple, etc. That said, to say that it does not take teamwork to get to where one wants to get to, be it a mentor, or that bank loan, or dare I say it even Govt. is to not take into consideration every aspect of what drives the individual. Just a thought here, it took teamwork to overcome the Axis powers during WW2, it took teamwork to put a man on the moon, and yes it takes teamwork to make the indivudual small businessman a success. Govt. is just one small part of that teamwork, but is not the driving engine that makes the individual thrive, perhaps when Govt. becomes that it should and that is one that creates an atmosphere for pride in American business and partner, then it will thrive even more. In my humble opinion though, Govt. should never be seen as the sole reason for the success of failure of a business because it takes a Capt. to lead a ship and it's Govt's job to help the navigate those waters, not pilot the ship.

But that's not what the President was saying at all. It's what Mitt Romney and Faux News WANT you to think he was saying, but he wasn't. All he was saying is that we're ALL in this together. It was a very humanitarian thing to say, and one that I can't believe Republicans and Conservatives are taking so goddamned literally. Well, no, I can believe it, because it's easier to call him a Socialist than it is to actually HEAR what he's saying.

The fact is that no company does thrive on its own, not even Bain capital. There are small business loans, there are taxpayer funded roads that trucks use to haul goods across state lines. There are firefighters making sure your business' building doesn't go up in flames. But it all goes back to the Conservative notion that GOVERNMENT IS BAD no matter what; even though there's not a single-solitary successful business that hasn't gotten help from the government SOMEWHERE along the lines. What do you think fucking tax breaks, for Christ's sake?

Oh, and then there's this:

Star of Romney ‘My Hands Didn’t Build This’ Ad Received Millions in Government Loans and Contracts - ABC News

Mitt can't even fucking find someone to be in his campaign attack ad on this subject that hasn't taken money from the government.

 

[ConservaDerrps]

Interesting point

Once the Wright brothers demonstrated their concept, who did they sell their airplanes to?

Wasn't the private sector, it was the Government who bought their planes and turned them from inventors to businessmen

Correction...

Government offered them the best contract.

They would have gladly accepted competing cointracts if the government didnt out bid the others.

How many private companies were beating down their doors looking for airplanes? Wasn't the airline industry. Early aviation was supported by the government for military and airmail

I'd like to know how he knows what the Wright Brothers would or wouldn't have accepted. He's either super fucking old or pulling shit out if his ignorant ass to try and provide backup for his bullshit beliefs.

Just sayin'.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Just a thought here, while we as a nation have always treasured individual achievement and small business is no exception, long hours, hard work, in an effort to make a life for oneself and ones family as well as one's community. These folks are like many are to be admired and not admonished or used as political tools, in fact we need to do everything we can to help these businesses thrive , because from small business comes the next Microsoft, Boeing, Ford, Apple, etc. That said, to say that it does not take teamwork to get to where one wants to get to, be it a mentor, or that bank loan, or dare I say it even Govt. is to not take into consideration every aspect of what drives the individual. Just a thought here, it took teamwork to overcome the Axis powers during WW2, it took teamwork to put a man on the moon, and yes it takes teamwork to make the indivudual small businessman a success. Govt. is just one small part of that teamwork, but is not the driving engine that makes the individual thrive, perhaps when Govt. becomes that it should and that is one that creates an atmosphere for pride in American business and partner, then it will thrive even more. In my humble opinion though, Govt. should never be seen as the sole reason for the success of failure of a business because it takes a Capt. to lead a ship and it's Govt's job to help the navigate those waters, not pilot the ship.

But that's not what the President was saying at all. It's what Mitt Romney and Faux News WANT you to think he was saying, but he wasn't. All he was saying is that we're ALL in this together. It was a very humanitarian thing to say, and one that I can't believe Republicans and Conservatives are taking so goddamned literally. Well, no, I can believe it, because it's easier to call him a Socialist than it is to actually HEAR what he's saying.

The fact is that no company does thrive on its own, not even Bain capital. There are small business loans, there are taxpayer funded roads that trucks use to haul goods across state lines. There are firefighters making sure your business' building doesn't go up in flames. But it all goes back to the Conservative notion that GOVERNMENT IS BAD no matter what; even though there's not a single-solitary successful business that hasn't gotten help from the government SOMEWHERE along the lines. What do you think fucking tax breaks, for Christ's sake?

Oh, and then there's this:

Star of Romney ‘My Hands Didn’t Build This’ Ad Received Millions in Government Loans and Contracts - ABC News

Mitt can't even fucking find someone to be in his campaign attack ad on this subject that hasn't taken money from the government.

Sorry Douche,

We are NOT all in it together.

You need to learn that no one is going to take care of you but you. In fact if we drilled that into the heads of people instead of telling them they they can take credit for the work of others we'd all be better off.

 

[Full-Auto]

Just a thought here, while we as a nation have always treasured individual achievement and small business is no exception, long hours, hard work, in an effort to make a life for oneself and ones family as well as one's community. These folks are like many are to be admired and not admonished or used as political tools, in fact we need to do everything we can to help these businesses thrive , because from small business comes the next Microsoft, Boeing, Ford, Apple, etc. That said, to say that it does not take teamwork to get to where one wants to get to, be it a mentor, or that bank loan, or dare I say it even Govt. is to not take into consideration every aspect of what drives the individual. Just a thought here, it took teamwork to overcome the Axis powers during WW2, it took teamwork to put a man on the moon, and yes it takes teamwork to make the indivudual small businessman a success. Govt. is just one small part of that teamwork, but is not the driving engine that makes the individual thrive, perhaps when Govt. becomes that it should and that is one that creates an atmosphere for pride in American business and partner, then it will thrive even more. In my humble opinion though, Govt. should never be seen as the sole reason for the success of failure of a business because it takes a Capt. to lead a ship and it's Govt's job to help the navigate those waters, not pilot the ship.

But that's not what the President was saying at all. It's what Mitt Romney and Faux News WANT you to think he was saying, but he wasn't. All he was saying is that we're ALL in this together. It was a very humanitarian thing to say, and one that I can't believe Republicans and Conservatives are taking so goddamned literally. Well, no, I can believe it, because it's easier to call him a Socialist than it is to actually HEAR what he's saying.

The fact is that no company does thrive on its own, not even Bain capital. There are small business loans, there are taxpayer funded roads that trucks use to haul goods across state lines. There are firefighters making sure your business' building doesn't go up in flames. But it all goes back to the Conservative notion that GOVERNMENT IS BAD no matter what; even though there's not a single-solitary successful business that hasn't gotten help from the government SOMEWHERE along the lines. What do you think fucking tax breaks, for Christ's sake?

Oh, and then there's this:

Star of Romney ‘My Hands Didn’t Build This’ Ad Received Millions in Government Loans and Contracts - ABC News

Mitt can't even fucking find someone to be in his campaign attack ad on this subject that hasn't taken money from the government.

Sorry Douche,

We are NOT all in it together.

You need to learn that no one is going to take care of you but you. In fact if we drilled that into the heads of people instead of telling them they they can take credit for the work of others we'd all be better off.

His post did demonstrate the type of simple mind you are dealing with.

Dont waste your time.

 

[ConservaDerrps]

Just a thought here, while we as a nation have always treasured individual achievement and small business is no exception, long hours, hard work, in an effort to make a life for oneself and ones family as well as one's community. These folks are like many are to be admired and not admonished or used as political tools, in fact we need to do everything we can to help these businesses thrive , because from small business comes the next Microsoft, Boeing, Ford, Apple, etc. That said, to say that it does not take teamwork to get to where one wants to get to, be it a mentor, or that bank loan, or dare I say it even Govt. is to not take into consideration every aspect of what drives the individual. Just a thought here, it took teamwork to overcome the Axis powers during WW2, it took teamwork to put a man on the moon, and yes it takes teamwork to make the indivudual small businessman a success. Govt. is just one small part of that teamwork, but is not the driving engine that makes the individual thrive, perhaps when Govt. becomes that it should and that is one that creates an atmosphere for pride in American business and partner, then it will thrive even more. In my humble opinion though, Govt. should never be seen as the sole reason for the success of failure of a business because it takes a Capt. to lead a ship and it's Govt's job to help the navigate those waters, not pilot the ship.

But that's not what the President was saying at all. It's what Mitt Romney and Faux News WANT you to think he was saying, but he wasn't. All he was saying is that we're ALL in this together. It was a very humanitarian thing to say, and one that I can't believe Republicans and Conservatives are taking so goddamned literally. Well, no, I can believe it, because it's easier to call him a Socialist than it is to actually HEAR what he's saying.

The fact is that no company does thrive on its own, not even Bain capital. There are small business loans, there are taxpayer funded roads that trucks use to haul goods across state lines. There are firefighters making sure your business' building doesn't go up in flames. But it all goes back to the Conservative notion that GOVERNMENT IS BAD no matter what; even though there's not a single-solitary successful business that hasn't gotten help from the government SOMEWHERE along the lines. What do you think fucking tax breaks, for Christ's sake?

Oh, and then there's this:

Star of Romney ‘My Hands Didn’t Build This’ Ad Received Millions in Government Loans and Contracts - ABC News

Mitt can't even fucking find someone to be in his campaign attack ad on this subject that hasn't taken money from the government.

Sorry Douche,

We are NOT all in it together.

You need to learn that no one is going to take care of you but you. In fact if we drilled that into the heads of people instead of telling them they they can take credit for the work of others we'd all be better off.

How old are you? Do you collect Social Security yet?

 

[SniperFire]

just a thought here, while we as a nation have always treasured individual achievement and small business is no exception, long hours, hard work, in an effort to make a life for oneself and ones family as well as one's community. These folks are like many are to be admired and not admonished or used as political tools, in fact we need to do everything we can to help these businesses thrive , because from small business comes the next microsoft, boeing, ford, apple, etc. That said, to say that it does not take teamwork to get to where one wants to get to, be it a mentor, or that bank loan, or dare i say it even govt. Is to not take into consideration every aspect of what drives the individual. Just a thought here, it took teamwork to overcome the axis powers during ww2, it took teamwork to put a man on the moon, and yes it takes teamwork to make the indivudual small businessman a success. Govt. Is just one small part of that teamwork, but is not the driving engine that makes the individual thrive, perhaps when govt. Becomes that it should and that is one that creates an atmosphere for pride in american business and partner, then it will thrive even more. In my humble opinion though, govt. Should never be seen as the sole reason for the success of failure of a business because it takes a capt. To lead a ship and it's govt's job to help the navigate those waters, not pilot the ship.

but that's not what the president was saying at all. It's what mitt romney and faux news want you to think he was saying, but he wasn't. All he was saying is that we're all in this together. It was a very humanitarian thing to say, and one that i can't believe republicans and conservatives are taking so goddamned literally. Well, no, i can believe it, because it's easier to call him a socialist than it is to actually hear what he's saying.

The fact is that no company does thrive on its own, not even bain capital. There are small business loans, there are taxpayer funded roads that trucks use to haul goods across state lines. There are firefighters making sure your business' building doesn't go up in flames. But it all goes back to the conservative notion that government is bad no matter what; even though there's not a single-solitary successful business that hasn't gotten help from the government somewhere along the lines. What do you think fucking tax breaks, for christ's sake?

Oh, and then there's this:

star of romney ‘my hands didn’t build this’ ad received millions in government loans and contracts - abc news

mitt can't even fucking find someone to be in his campaign attack ad on this subject that hasn't taken money from the government.

sorry douche,

we are not all in it together.

you need to learn that no one is going to take care of you but you. In fact if we drilled that into the heads of people instead of telling them they they can take credit for the work of others we'd all be better off.

word

 

[gallantwarrior]

Interesting point

Once the Wright brothers demonstrated their concept, who did they sell their airplanes to?

Wasn't the private sector, it was the Government who bought their planes and turned them from inventors to businessmen

Not to mention the government patents that they benefited from.

You do realize that patents are not free? Anyone applying for a patent already pays for that privilege, so you can strike the benefit of owning a patent from your talking points list of things the government provides "free" for entrepreneurs and small business people.

Patents

Fees vary depending on the type of patent application you submit. Fees may also vary according to the way you "claim" your invention. More information on filing fees and the number and type of claims.

There are three basic fees for utility patents:

The filing fee, which is non-refundable whether or not a patent is granted. (This is the cost to have your invention "examined" by the US Patent and Trademark Office - remember, you may or may not get a patent!)

The issue fee (you pay this only if your application is allowed)
Maintenance fees (paid at 3 1/2, 7 1/2, and 11 1/2 years after your patent is granted - these fees "maintain" your legal protection).

Additional fees may be required.

Typical fees are as follows (these are only intended to give you a "ballpark" estimate) these fees do not reflect all the possible variations in filing and patenting your invention - also, these fees are subject to change - thus, you are strongly advised to check the current fee schedule before submitting your application.

Typical filing fees for an Inventor when application filed with a written assertion of small entity status (See Simplified Small Entity Status Practice :

Filing a provisional application. ( More information ) $125

Filing a non-provisional application. ( More information )
Non-electric filing fee (applications filed in paper) Approximately $625

Additional $200

Issue fee Approximately $870
Maintenance fees:
Due at 3 1/2 years Approximately $565
Due at 7 1/2 years Approximately $1,425
Due at 11 1/2 years Approximately $2,365

 

[Skull Pilot]

But that's not what the President was saying at all. It's what Mitt Romney and Faux News WANT you to think he was saying, but he wasn't. All he was saying is that we're ALL in this together. It was a very humanitarian thing to say, and one that I can't believe Republicans and Conservatives are taking so goddamned literally. Well, no, I can believe it, because it's easier to call him a Socialist than it is to actually HEAR what he's saying.

The fact is that no company does thrive on its own, not even Bain capital. There are small business loans, there are taxpayer funded roads that trucks use to haul goods across state lines. There are firefighters making sure your business' building doesn't go up in flames. But it all goes back to the Conservative notion that GOVERNMENT IS BAD no matter what; even though there's not a single-solitary successful business that hasn't gotten help from the government SOMEWHERE along the lines. What do you think fucking tax breaks, for Christ's sake?

Oh, and then there's this:

Star of Romney ‘My Hands Didn’t Build This’ Ad Received Millions in Government Loans and Contracts - ABC News

Mitt can't even fucking find someone to be in his campaign attack ad on this subject that hasn't taken money from the government.

Sorry Douche,

We are NOT all in it together.

You need to learn that no one is going to take care of you but you. In fact if we drilled that into the heads of people instead of telling them they they can take credit for the work of others we'd all be better off.

How old are you? Do you collect Social Security yet?

No and I'm really not planning on getting anything from SS. If you were smart you wouldn't either.

 

[ConservaDerrps]

Just a thought here, while we as a nation have always treasured individual achievement and small business is no exception, long hours, hard work, in an effort to make a life for oneself and ones family as well as one's community. These folks are like many are to be admired and not admonished or used as political tools, in fact we need to do everything we can to help these businesses thrive , because from small business comes the next Microsoft, Boeing, Ford, Apple, etc. That said, to say that it does not take teamwork to get to where one wants to get to, be it a mentor, or that bank loan, or dare I say it even Govt. is to not take into consideration every aspect of what drives the individual. Just a thought here, it took teamwork to overcome the Axis powers during WW2, it took teamwork to put a man on the moon, and yes it takes teamwork to make the indivudual small businessman a success. Govt. is just one small part of that teamwork, but is not the driving engine that makes the individual thrive, perhaps when Govt. becomes that it should and that is one that creates an atmosphere for pride in American business and partner, then it will thrive even more. In my humble opinion though, Govt. should never be seen as the sole reason for the success of failure of a business because it takes a Capt. to lead a ship and it's Govt's job to help the navigate those waters, not pilot the ship.

But that's not what the President was saying at all. It's what Mitt Romney and Faux News WANT you to think he was saying, but he wasn't. All he was saying is that we're ALL in this together. It was a very humanitarian thing to say, and one that I can't believe Republicans and Conservatives are taking so goddamned literally. Well, no, I can believe it, because it's easier to call him a Socialist than it is to actually HEAR what he's saying.

The fact is that no company does thrive on its own, not even Bain capital. There are small business loans, there are taxpayer funded roads that trucks use to haul goods across state lines. There are firefighters making sure your business' building doesn't go up in flames. But it all goes back to the Conservative notion that GOVERNMENT IS BAD no matter what; even though there's not a single-solitary successful business that hasn't gotten help from the government SOMEWHERE along the lines. What do you think fucking tax breaks, for Christ's sake?

Oh, and then there's this:

Star of Romney ‘My Hands Didn’t Build This’ Ad Received Millions in Government Loans and Contracts - ABC News

Mitt can't even fucking find someone to be in his campaign attack ad on this subject that hasn't taken money from the government.

Sorry Douche,

We are NOT all in it together.

You need to learn that no one is going to take care of you but you. In fact if we drilled that into the heads of people instead of telling them they they can take credit for the work of others we'd all be better off.

Also, thank you proving once and for all that Conservatives are THE MOST selfish group in American politics. Or at least Tea Bagger Conservatives are. We are all in it together, you dumb fucking fuck. My tax dollars and your tax dollars don't go into separate, ideological piles. They go into one big kitty and we've asked our government to represent EVERYONE and agree on how best to spend the money.

You've actually demonstrated the fatal flaw in Tea Bagger politics. You think your side is the only one that matters and therefore you don't have to play the game. Guess what, fucksore? You do have to play the game.

Ask Orin Hatch about how much he gives a fuck about the Tea Baggers now that he's not getting primaried.

The Associated Press: Tea party threat defused, Hatch looks to tax deal

 

[Navy1960]

Just a thought here, while we as a nation have always treasured individual achievement and small business is no exception, long hours, hard work, in an effort to make a life for oneself and ones family as well as one's community. These folks are like many are to be admired and not admonished or used as political tools, in fact we need to do everything we can to help these businesses thrive , because from small business comes the next Microsoft, Boeing, Ford, Apple, etc. That said, to say that it does not take teamwork to get to where one wants to get to, be it a mentor, or that bank loan, or dare I say it even Govt. is to not take into consideration every aspect of what drives the individual. Just a thought here, it took teamwork to overcome the Axis powers during WW2, it took teamwork to put a man on the moon, and yes it takes teamwork to make the indivudual small businessman a success. Govt. is just one small part of that teamwork, but is not the driving engine that makes the individual thrive, perhaps when Govt. becomes that it should and that is one that creates an atmosphere for pride in American business and partner, then it will thrive even more. In my humble opinion though, Govt. should never be seen as the sole reason for the success of failure of a business because it takes a Capt. to lead a ship and it's Govt's job to help the navigate those waters, not pilot the ship.

But that's not what the President was saying at all. It's what Mitt Romney and Faux News WANT you to think he was saying, but he wasn't. All he was saying is that we're ALL in this together. It was a very humanitarian thing to say, and one that I can't believe Republicans and Conservatives are taking so goddamned literally. Well, no, I can believe it, because it's easier to call him a Socialist than it is to actually HEAR what he's saying.

The fact is that no company does thrive on its own, not even Bain capital. There are small business loans, there are taxpayer funded roads that trucks use to haul goods across state lines. There are firefighters making sure your business' building doesn't go up in flames. But it all goes back to the Conservative notion that GOVERNMENT IS BAD no matter what; even though there's not a single-solitary successful business that hasn't gotten help from the government SOMEWHERE along the lines. What do you think fucking tax breaks, for Christ's sake?

Oh, and then there's this:

Star of Romney ‘My Hands Didn’t Build This’ Ad Received Millions in Government Loans and Contracts - ABC News

Mitt can't even fucking find someone to be in his campaign attack ad on this subject that hasn't taken money from the government.

Couple of things here, one is my commentary was not based on the Presidents speech which was taken out of context by both the Romney campaign and Fox News. The other is my commentary was simply to point out that Govt. is just one part of the success of any business but it takes the person or person(s) who run the business and the teamwork involved, hard work, and a little bit of luck to make it a success. Those who say that small business gets that way on it's own as a result of the work of the owners of those business know little about small business or business in general, in fact the man featured in the Romney commercial acknowledged a number of SBA and state loans for his business. Further those who advocate that Govt. is the sole reason that small business is a success are wrong as well, as Govt. is but one tool in which these business can use to thrive. but it takes the drive and teamwork of those involved to make it work. Perhaps if less focus was put on the fact that the " rugged individual" is by him or herself responsible for the success or failure of a business, may sound good it is the exception not the rule and it takes teamwork in order for them to thrive. My poistion is a simple one, Govt. should be an advocate and promote American business and instill a sense of pride in American made by it's legislation but never should Govt. be in the position where they are the one's who manage those business to success or failure and in my honest opinion theres a little too much of that going on and has been for a long time now, take your pick on what party you want to assign that too.