72% Believe Small Business Owners Primarily Responsible for Their Own Success

[Stephanie]

There is a difference between primarily responsible and totally responsible......conservatives just can't understand it

And little addle brained socialist leftists like you just can't understand that government has never, will never, and can never "start and build a successful business."

Ummmmm....Who ever asked them to?

The role of government is to create and environment in which business can thrive. Solid transportation infrastructure, educated workforce, just competitive environment......level playing field

well you got all the Socialist talking points down...
good thing the majority of the people UNDERSTAND what the role of government is for and will vote out your dear leader who thinks just like you

 

[Sinjorri]

time to educate the people who just dont want to learn or listen.

Your parents didn't help you?

i personally helped them, I had to talk to others and develop different ways to make a business adapt to new tech and the new ways people lived and wanted different things

Nobody lent a hand when you were starting out?

nope all private money and all our risk.

Nobody bothered to educate you or your workforce?

]Nope had to educate myself in school and than into college have a cj degree and had to learn business to make the business successful.

You built roads and communications infrastructure?

Rome built roads, anyone can walk a trail

You provided your own goon force to protect you?

]had to the only time cops would come is if anything was legal, cops cannot be sued for doing or not doing their jobs.

You bought a fire engine....just in case?

]INstalled ADT and extinguishers never had hte fire deptpart there but always paid our taxes.

You enforced your own patents and Prevent unfair competition?

]Laws that are silly and no one fully understands anyway

 

[Wacky Quacky]

You guys are arguing over semantics again.

Liberals are talking in absolute terms. ""Someone, somewhere helped you."

Conservatives are speaking in general terms. "I am the reason my business succeeds or fails."

Until you guys get on the same wavelength this discussion isn't going anywhere.

 

[rightwinger]

You guys are arguing over semantics again.

Liberals are talking in absolute terms. ""Someone, somewhere helped you."

Conservatives are speaking in general terms. "I am the reason my business succeeds or fails."

Until you guys get on the same wavelength this discussion isn't going anywhere.

As usual....the issue comes down to money

The right is making the argument that business only helps the society and does not benefit from it so should not be expected to pay for it

The left is making the argument that business has unduly benefitted from society so should be expected to contribute more

The answer is somewhere in the middle

 

[Stephanie]

You guys are arguing over semantics again.

Liberals are talking in absolute terms. ""Someone, somewhere helped you."

Conservatives are speaking in general terms. "I am the reason my business succeeds or fails."

Until you guys get on the same wavelength this discussion isn't going anywhere.

As usual....the issue comes down to money

The right is making the argument that business only helps the society and does not benefit from it so should not be expected to pay for it

The left is making the argument that business has unduly benefitted from society so should be expected to contribute more

The answer is somewhere in the middle

businesses don't owe you a damn thing...if anything YOU SOCIETY owe them..or go live on desert island and live..
my gawd, some of you are warped just like the thinking of Obama..

 

[NYcarbineer]

Once these people on the right painted themselves into the corner of being anti-government ideological purists,

their antics to try to adhere to that purity have been most amusing.

 

[Jarhead]

You guys are arguing over semantics again.

Liberals are talking in absolute terms. ""Someone, somewhere helped you."

Conservatives are speaking in general terms. "I am the reason my business succeeds or fails."

Until you guys get on the same wavelength this discussion isn't going anywhere.

As usual....the issue comes down to money

The right is making the argument that business only helps the society and does not benefit from it so should not be expected to pay for it

The left is making the argument that business has unduly benefitted from society so should be expected to contribute more

The answer is somewhere in the middle

What you say is not true. The right has NEVER said that they should not be expected to pay for it.

The right currentrly pays for it and are arguing that they should not be made to pay an even larger share of it.

The answer IS in the middle...and the middle is exactly where we are now.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Lol who are the 28%?
True omabamabot commie believers I guess, that's funny 28% are possibly under the 80 IQ borderline.

Your sentence structure suggests less than a high school education and/or an IQ below 90. I suggest before castigating the intelligence of those who support Obama that you invest in a Grammar, Spelling and Syntax Checker at your local Internet store.

 

[Stephanie]

Lol who are the 28%?
True omabamabot commie believers I guess, that's funny 28% are possibly under the 80 IQ borderline.

Your sentence structure suggests less than a high school education and/or an IQ below 90. I suggest before castigating the intelligence of those who support Obama that you invest in a Grammar, Spelling and Syntax Checker at your local Internet store.

oh gawd...pass the barf bag...how's that for high school?

 

[Sinjorri]

Lol who are the 28%?
True omabamabot commie believers I guess, that's funny 28% are possibly under the 80 IQ borderline.

Your sentence structure suggests less than a high school education and/or an IQ below 90. I suggest before castigating the intelligence of those who support Obama that you invest in a Grammar, Spelling and Syntax Checker at your local Internet store.

once again libs cant say "u are wrong because of x and y" but instead gotta target another subject

 

[Emma]

And, as it turns out, Jack Gilchrist is no different. The New Hampshire Union Leader reports today that Gilchrist benefited from millions of dollars of government loans and contracts to get his business on its feet:

In 1999, Gilchrist Metal received $800,000 in tax-exempt revenue bonds issued by the New Hampshire Business Finance Authority “to set up a second manufacturing plant and purchase equipment to produce high definition television broadcasting equipment,” according to a New Hampshire Union Leader report at the time…
Last year, Gilchrist Metal also received two U.S. Navy sub-contracts totaling about $83,000 and a smaller $5,600 Coast Guard contract in 2008, according to a government web site that tracks spending.
​

Gilchrist wisely took advantage of these funds, which help small businesses like his survive in their early years. He also took a U.S. Small Business Administration loan in the late 1980s totaling “somewhere south of” $500,000, plus matching funds from the federally-funded New England Trade Adjustment Assistance Center.




Romney's 'You Didn't Build That' Attack Ad Stars Businessman Who Received Millions in Government Money | ThinkProgress

 

[Jarhead]

Once these people on the right painted themselves into the corner of being anti-government ideological purists,

their antics to try to adhere to that purity have been most amusing.

the fact that you have not been paying attention is not my problem.

"These people" on the right are not anti government. "These people" on the right recognize that no government results in anarchy.

"These people" on the right, however, believe that too much government results in a loss of liberty and a greater dependence on the government...and recognize the more you become dependant on the government, the larger and more ominous government can get.

It is a valid concern and whereas you may not care, those of us that have enjoyed true liberty and acheived success BECAUSE of it, do not want to see our descendants not get to enjoy the same.

You see...YOU are selfish. As long as you get what you want, you dont give a rats ass how it will affect others down the road.

So...in closing....you are a selfish individual who isn't paying attention.

and that will be my new definition of a left wing partisan hack.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

See, in a Progressive Utopia like North Korea, they credit Fearless Leader for EVERYTHING! They own him their very lives. That's the degree of Love and Adoration that the Left has for Obama. That's what Obama was talking about, that's the system the American Left embraces and is progressing toward. He heals the sick, he lowers the oceans, he was sent here to care for them, tend to their every need.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Wry is one of the funniest poster at USMB!

 

[rightwinger]

You guys are arguing over semantics again.

Liberals are talking in absolute terms. ""Someone, somewhere helped you."

Conservatives are speaking in general terms. "I am the reason my business succeeds or fails."

Until you guys get on the same wavelength this discussion isn't going anywhere.

As usual....the issue comes down to money

The right is making the argument that business only helps the society and does not benefit from it so should not be expected to pay for it

The left is making the argument that business has unduly benefitted from society so should be expected to contribute more

The answer is somewhere in the middle

What you say is not true. The right has NEVER said that they should not be expected to pay for it.

The right currentrly pays for it and are arguing that they should not be made to pay an even larger share of it.

The answer IS in the middle...and the middle is exactly where we are now.

Even rightwing pundit Stephanie disagrees with you

. businesses don't owe you a damn thing...if anything YOU SOCIETY owe them..or go live on desert island and live..
my gawd, some of you are warped just like the thinking of Obama..

 

[PratchettFan]

For 20yrs I worked an extra couple hrs before, and 4-5hrs after my employees worked their day. Anyone who wants to proclaim that "someone else made that happen" can go fuck themselves.

How long would you have stayed in business without water, electricity, sewage, roads, etc?

Before people get all upset about what the man said, they should actually take the time and read what he said. Not just one little sentence snipped out and used out of context.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

And, as it turns out, Jack Gilchrist is no different. The New Hampshire Union Leader reports today that Gilchrist benefited from millions of dollars of government loans and contracts to get his business on its feet:

In 1999, Gilchrist Metal received $800,000 in tax-exempt revenue bonds issued by the New Hampshire Business Finance Authority “to set up a second manufacturing plant and purchase equipment to produce high definition television broadcasting equipment,” according to a New Hampshire Union Leader report at the time…
Last year, Gilchrist Metal also received two U.S. Navy sub-contracts totaling about $83,000 and a smaller $5,600 Coast Guard contract in 2008, according to a government web site that tracks spending.
​

Gilchrist wisely took advantage of these funds, which help small businesses like his survive in their early years. He also took a U.S. Small Business Administration loan in the late 1980s totaling “somewhere south of” $500,000, plus matching funds from the federally-funded New England Trade Adjustment Assistance Center.




Romney's 'You Didn't Build That' Attack Ad Stars Businessman Who Received Millions in Government Money | ThinkProgress

You love Obama more than life itself. He is the one and only source of everything you ever need.

 

[Stephanie]

Thankfully the majority in our country still believe in Individuality...

that is why you people have got to vote obama out folks..he has brought us down with his words, actions and collectivist "visions"

NOW you KNOW what he meant when he said, he wanted to TRANSFORM AMERCIA

 

[Mac1958]

For 20yrs I worked an extra couple hrs before, and 4-5hrs after my employees worked their day. Anyone who wants to proclaim that "someone else made that happen" can go fuck themselves.

How long would you have stayed in business without water, electricity, sewage, roads, etc?

Before people get all upset about what the man said, they should actually take the time and read what he said. Not just one little sentence snipped out and used out of context.

The straw man arguments continue.

.

 

[rightwinger]

See, in a Progressive Utopia like North Korea, they credit Fearless Leader for EVERYTHING! They own him their very lives. That's the degree of Love and Adoration that the Left has for Obama. That's what Obama was talking about, that's the system the American Left embraces and is progressing toward. He heals the sick, he lowers the oceans, he was sent here to care for them, tend to their every need.

Yea....yea

And the conservative utopia is Somalia. No government and everyone looks out for themselves