7000 Losing Unemployment Benefits Daily

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    Let generic brand soup and God sort it out.

    Or learn how to make things the world wants to buy again.
     
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    You can start by learning how to make things other Americans want to buy.
     
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    Or you can keep creating financial products that are simply nothing more than a rigged Wallstreet roulette wheel and call it the free market while you get wanked by the not so invisible hand of China, a country that does make things.
     
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    As those 7,000 people a day drop off the unemployment roles we will see that translate into a false representation of what the real unemployment number is right now when it's released later next month.

    The problem with American manufacturing is that once unions get involved they price American made products right out of the market. Look at all of the non unionized auto plants. They still have jobs.
     
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    health care costs and health care benefits to their retirees is what have come back to bite the companies with unions in the butt....when the companies AGREED with the union to give these benefits INSTEAD OF GIVING THEM A RAISE in salary decades ago, probably made a bad decision looking back on it....but to blame unions for what the companies sat at a bargaining table on and came to the agreement on...could be a little short sited and partisan skewed imo.
     
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    Its getting worse, not better, but Barry and is goofy friends tell us the recession is over and all is sweetness and light.

    Tell that to the people out of work.
     
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    i have heard no one say the recession is over....only that things on the market/in the economy have signs of improvement...and that everyone keeps saying that jobs will be the last thing to recover in this recession, or something of the sort...i realize they have trends that they have viewed from the past that give them this impression of how it is going to go...but I am not so certain they are looking at the right trends to compare to...i think we are in more of a depression than a recession and maybe they should look at how unemployment trended during the great depression?
     
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    You can't blame this on healthcare when your paying someone 95% of their salary to sit at home on their fat beer drinking ass and watch Oprah for years on end.

    That just doesn't fly. Sorry.

    and when you pay someone a starting salary of 30 dollars an hour to put floor mats in a car?? Hmmmmmmmmmm......one has to look at the unions and who they are out for...
    Hint: THEMSELVES
     
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    But at what POINT do you say to yourself....these companies AGREED to these measures at the Bargaining table? They did NOT have to do such, but they made their own business decisions on what they felt the company or the corporation could afford....these are adults, high powered ceos at the bargaining table...they CERTAINLY DID what was best for the corporation at the time...or at least they thought they did OR THEY DID NOT do their homework correctly and miscalculated what they agreed to which hurt their company and shareholders, while they probably got a big bonus for being the hero that worked the agreement.

    To BLAME solely one side like the other side HAD NO PART OF IT, is just wrong Patek....there is always 2 sides to a story...and I am not giving the union who negotiated these deals many moons ago, some of them before these union workers were even born, a pass either...just saying that the picture is bigger than your narrow scope...just open your mind.

    and as far as the car manufacturers and their unions....those ceo's imo are to blame for most of what has happened to them....the American company heads did not have vision or insight or ingenuity in their plan...thus sales dropped and every year they lost more and more market share of the industry to the small car maker over seas....

    What I am trying to say is that if the ceo's and decision makers of the auto industry continued to have good, strong sales and maintained or grew their share of the market place then there would be NO PROBLEMS with all of the union benefits and pay that they get.....LACK OF SALES, because of not having the right product at the right price, IS THEIR PROBLEM....

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