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I don't know if this should be under 'science,' or 'entertainment,' or even 'humor'...

You make the call:

They donated $700k of our money for a propaganda tract on global warming to be performed in NYC...


"This from the New York Times.

The National Science Foundation has awarded a $700,000 grant to the Civilians, a New York theater company, to finance the production of a show about climate change. “The Great Immensity,” with a book by Steven Cosson (“This Beautiful City”) and music and lyrics by Michael Friedman (“Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson”), tells the story of Polly, a photojournalist who disappears while working in the rain forests of Panama. The grant is a rare gift to an arts organization from the foundation, a federal agency that pays for science, engineering and mathematics research and education. "
Meteorological Musings: An Embarrassment and an Outrage


Once again, the echo of the French Revolution from our ersatz leftists:
Henri de Saint-Simon, the articulator of socialism, argued for the supremacy of the sciences over religion, and predicted that, like religious, secular propaganda would employ artists and poets.
 
Oh please.

The US government gives money to oil companies and they throw millions into the political area. That means OUR money is used for propaganda.

At least the National Science Foundation wants to help this country. Oil companies only want to rape it. And Republicans want to give it to China.
 
gee I thought the National Endowment for the Arts was supposed to fund this type of thing...silly me. hey is this going to be in Farsi and Arabic too?:rolleyes:
 
Oh please.

The US government gives money to oil companies and they throw millions into the political area. That means OUR money is used for propaganda.

At least the National Science Foundation wants to help this country. Oil companies only want to rape it. And Republicans want to give it to China.

Having neither knowledge nor understanding has never stopped my
good friend deanie-weenie from having strong opinions!

Terrible how they make those obscene profits on poor folks! It seems that being liberal means never having to provide context. First, let’s compare the profit margin of Big Oil to that of Microsoft, Apple, Google, Johnson & Johnson, Coca-Cola, Nike, etc. The average profit margin for companies in the S & P 500 index was 13 cents. And “The [Oil] industry’s net profit per dollar of revenue was just under 9 cents, compared to… the S&P 500, meaning the “markup” for the oil and gas industry is below average.”
AAPL Key Statistics | Apple Inc. Stock - Yahoo! Finance, available for each company.
So, where are the complaints about ‘Big Sneaker,’ or ‘Big Shampoo’?


And where are the kudos for Big Oil, without which we couldn’t get to work? Or should we go after the owners of Exxon with pitchforks an firebrands? Better not, after all they is us! “Exxon Mobil, in fact, is owned mostly by ordinary Americans. Mutual funds, index funds and pension funds (including union pension funds) own about 52 percent of Exxon Mobil’s shares. Individual shareholders, about two million or so, own almost all the rest. The pooh-bahs who run Exxon own less than 1 percent of the company.” http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/02/business/02every.html


And, of course, the antibusiness crowd loves stories about how much Big Oil is stealing from the American people! On the contrary, in 2006, the oil industry paid $81 billion in income tax, and while Exxon’s earnings increased 89% from 2003 to 2007, their income taxes increased 170%. Exxon: Profit Pirate or Tax Victim?


The non-thinking segment of the public has been conditioned to hate the oil industry. Very few realize the extent to which they are subsidized by this industry. “According to the [Exxon] company's income statement, the amount of taxes it paid in 2008 was 2.5 times as much as its net profit. The $45.2 billion profit figure makes a snappy headline, but the $116.2 billion in taxes that it paid is relegated to a footnote—if that. Exxon's tax bill breaks down like this: income taxes, $36.5 billion; sales-based taxes, $34.5 billion; "all other" taxes, $45.2 billion.” Exxon, Big Oil Profits Evil Only Until You Weigh Their Tax Bills - US News and World Report


If Exxon’s 2008 tax bill of $116.2 billion were split equally among all tax filers who pay income tax, each filer’s share would be $1,259/year. Still hate Exxon? The Tax Foundation - Number of Americans Paying Zero Federal Income Tax Grows to 43.4 Million

Carry on, DP-deanie!
 
Oh please.

The US government gives money to oil companies and they throw millions into the political area. That means OUR money is used for propaganda.

At least the National Science Foundation wants to help this country. Oil companies only want to rape it. And Republicans want to give it to China.


How much more favorable is the balance of trade with China now than it was under your arch enemy W?
 
Oh please.

The US government gives money to oil companies and they throw millions into the political area. That means OUR money is used for propaganda.

At least the National Science Foundation wants to help this country. Oil companies only want to rape it. And Republicans want to give it to China.

Having neither knowledge nor understanding has never stopped my
good friend deanie-weenie from having strong opinions!

Terrible how they make those obscene profits on poor folks! It seems that being liberal means never having to provide context. First, let’s compare the profit margin of Big Oil to that of Microsoft, Apple, Google, Johnson & Johnson, Coca-Cola, Nike, etc. The average profit margin for companies in the S & P 500 index was 13 cents. And “The [Oil] industry’s net profit per dollar of revenue was just under 9 cents, compared to… the S&P 500, meaning the “markup” for the oil and gas industry is below average.”
AAPL Key Statistics | Apple Inc. Stock - Yahoo! Finance, available for each company.
So, where are the complaints about ‘Big Sneaker,’ or ‘Big Shampoo’?


And where are the kudos for Big Oil, without which we couldn’t get to work? Or should we go after the owners of Exxon with pitchforks an firebrands? Better not, after all they is us! “Exxon Mobil, in fact, is owned mostly by ordinary Americans. Mutual funds, index funds and pension funds (including union pension funds) own about 52 percent of Exxon Mobil’s shares. Individual shareholders, about two million or so, own almost all the rest. The pooh-bahs who run Exxon own less than 1 percent of the company.” http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/02/business/02every.html


And, of course, the antibusiness crowd loves stories about how much Big Oil is stealing from the American people! On the contrary, in 2006, the oil industry paid $81 billion in income tax, and while Exxon’s earnings increased 89% from 2003 to 2007, their income taxes increased 170%. Exxon: Profit Pirate or Tax Victim?


The non-thinking segment of the public has been conditioned to hate the oil industry. Very few realize the extent to which they are subsidized by this industry. “According to the [Exxon] company's income statement, the amount of taxes it paid in 2008 was 2.5 times as much as its net profit. The $45.2 billion profit figure makes a snappy headline, but the $116.2 billion in taxes that it paid is relegated to a footnote—if that. Exxon's tax bill breaks down like this: income taxes, $36.5 billion; sales-based taxes, $34.5 billion; "all other" taxes, $45.2 billion.” Exxon, Big Oil Profits Evil Only Until You Weigh Their Tax Bills - US News and World Report


If Exxon’s 2008 tax bill of $116.2 billion were split equally among all tax filers who pay income tax, each filer’s share would be $1,259/year. Still hate Exxon? The Tax Foundation - Number of Americans Paying Zero Federal Income Tax Grows to 43.4 Million

Carry on, DP-deanie!

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/14/business/14oil.html

New projections, buried in the Interior Department's just-published budget plan, anticipate that the government will let companies pump about $65 billion worth of oil and natural gas from federal territory over the next five years without paying any royalties to the government.

Based on the administration figures, the government will give up more than $7 billion in payments between now and 2011. The companies are expected to get the largess, known as royalty relief, even though the administration assumes that oil prices will remain above $50 a barrel throughout that period.
 
Oh please.

The US government gives money to oil companies and they throw millions into the political area. That means OUR money is used for propaganda.

At least the National Science Foundation wants to help this country. Oil companies only want to rape it. And Republicans want to give it to China.


How much more favorable is the balance of trade with China now than it was under your arch enemy W?

Republicans helped move 2.4 million jobs to China from 2001 to 2008. They subsidized companies and gave them tax breaks to bring Chinese here to train by people who were losing their jobs (what a fucking slap in the face). It takes years to screw this country and wound it that deeply. We didn't start hemorrhaging jobs until Bush was leaving office to the tune of 750,000 a month. Factories were finished in China and the ones here were closing. This isn't a lie, it's history.

How can Democrats fix that horrific damage in two years? Plus, how do you fix it at all? We got royally screwed.

And now, Republicans want to elect anti gay, anti women's rights, anti Muslim, anti Hispanic politicians who want to end Social Security, Medicare, and privatize the VA.

Worse, Republicans insist Republicans are just like the Democrats. Now that is really insulting.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/14/business/14oil.html

New projections, buried in the Interior Department's just-published budget plan, anticipate that the government will let companies pump about $65 billion worth of oil and natural gas from federal territory over the next five years without paying any royalties to the government.

Based on the administration figures, the government will give up more than $7 billion in payments between now and 2011. The companies are expected to get the largess, known as royalty relief, even though the administration assumes that oil prices will remain above $50 a barrel throughout that period.

The greed of the "Professional Left" is unending.

The greed of Hugo Chavez knows no bounds.

The greed of Obama, Pelosi and Reid is crushing.

The greed of the Democrat Party will be bitch slapped on November 2nd.

Reap the whirlwind suckers. :tongue::tongue::tongue::tongue:
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/14/business/14oil.html

New projections, buried in the Interior Department's just-published budget plan, anticipate that the government will let companies pump about $65 billion worth of oil and natural gas from federal territory over the next five years without paying any royalties to the government.

Based on the administration figures, the government will give up more than $7 billion in payments between now and 2011. The companies are expected to get the largess, known as royalty relief, even though the administration assumes that oil prices will remain above $50 a barrel throughout that period.

The greed of the "Professional Left" is unending.

The greed of Hugo Chavez knows no bounds.

The greed of Obama, Pelosi and Reid is crushing.

The greed of the Democrat Party will be bitch slapped on November 2nd.

Reap the whirlwind suckers. :tongue::tongue::tongue::tongue:

:rofl:

you really believe that garbage?

b/c you know it's not like the right is greedy.

here's a hint... rich people are the ones in power;

rich people are greedy.

on both sides.

that's why cheney created our energy policy with the help of oil company and car company lobbyists.

but the hackishness of your post is heartwarming, i'm sure.
 
oh no... the nerve of them responding to the oil companies' paid hacks.

the horror...
Provide examples of these 'paid hacks'.

Thanks.

Now, to the point: Talk about hacks - theater-types doing science? WTF?

The NSF is supposed to fund research in the basic and applied sciences and to fund education in the basic and applied sciences. "To promote the progress of science; to advance the national health, prosperity, and welfare; to secure the national defense…"
 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/14/business/14oil.html

New projections, buried in the Interior Department's just-published budget plan, anticipate that the government will let companies pump about $65 billion worth of oil and natural gas from federal territory over the next five years without paying any royalties to the government.

Based on the administration figures, the government will give up more than $7 billion in payments between now and 2011. The companies are expected to get the largess, known as royalty relief, even though the administration assumes that oil prices will remain above $50 a barrel throughout that period.

The greed of the "Professional Left" is unending.

The greed of Hugo Chavez knows no bounds.

The greed of Obama, Pelosi and Reid is crushing.

The greed of the Democrat Party will be bitch slapped on November 2nd.

Reap the whirlwind suckers. :tongue::tongue::tongue::tongue:

:rofl:

you really believe that garbage?

b/c you know it's not like the right is greedy.

here's a hint... rich people are the ones in power;

rich people are greedy.

on both sides.

that's why cheney created our energy policy with the help of oil company and car company lobbyists.

but the hackishness of your post is heartwarming, i'm sure.

The Left's greed for power is holding us down.

However, greed for wealth happens in some on both sides. Though, if you earn your wealth, the word greed does not apply.

To bring this back to the OP...

Ecology as a social principle . . . condemns cities, culture, industry, technology, the intellect, and advocates men’s return to “nature,” to the state of grunting subanimals digging the soil with their bare hands.

The Ayn Rand Letter “The Lessons of Vietnam,” The Ayn Rand Letter, III, 25, 1.

An Asian peasant who labors through all of his waking hours, with tools created in Biblical times—a South American aborigine who is devoured by piranha in a jungle stream—an African who is bitten by the tsetse fly—an Arab whose teeth are green with decay in his mouth—these do live with their “natural environment,” but are scarcely able to appreciate its beauty. Try to tell a Chinese mother, whose child is dying of cholera: “Should one do everything one can? Of course not.” Try to tell a Russian housewife, who trudges miles on foot in sub-zero weather in order to spend hours standing in line at a state store dispensing food rations, that America is defiled by shopping centers, expressways and family cars.

Return of the Primitive: The Anti-Industrial Revolution “The Left: Old and New,”

In Western Europe, in the preindustrial Middle Ages, man’s life expectancy was 30 years. In the nineteenth century, Europe’s population grew by 300 percent—which is the best proof of the fact that for the first time in human history, industry gave the great masses of people a chance to survive.

If it were true that a heavy concentration of industry is destructive to human life, one would find life expectancy declining in the more advanced countries. But it has been rising steadily. Here are the figures on life expectancy in the United States (from the Metropolitan Life Insurance Company):

* 1900—47.3 years
* 1920—53 years
* 1940—60 years
* 1968—70.2 years (the latest figures compiled)

Anyone over 30 years of age today, give a silent “Thank you” to the nearest, grimiest, sootiest smokestacks you can find.

Return of the Primitive: The Anti-Industrial Revolution “The Anti-Industrial Revolution,”


"Return of the Primitive"IS the goal of the modern envirohippy movement. It's the Lefts great propaganda movement and it's being paid for by the tax dollars of the capitalists.

Suck on that. :razz:
 
Oh please.

The US government gives money to oil companies and they throw millions into the political area. That means OUR money is used for propaganda.

At least the National Science Foundation wants to help this country. Oil companies only want to rape it. And Republicans want to give it to China.

Having neither knowledge nor understanding has never stopped my
good friend deanie-weenie from having strong opinions!

Terrible how they make those obscene profits on poor folks! It seems that being liberal means never having to provide context. First, let’s compare the profit margin of Big Oil to that of Microsoft, Apple, Google, Johnson & Johnson, Coca-Cola, Nike, etc. The average profit margin for companies in the S & P 500 index was 13 cents. And “The [Oil] industry’s net profit per dollar of revenue was just under 9 cents, compared to… the S&P 500, meaning the “markup” for the oil and gas industry is below average.”
AAPL Key Statistics | Apple Inc. Stock - Yahoo! Finance, available for each company.
So, where are the complaints about ‘Big Sneaker,’ or ‘Big Shampoo’?


And where are the kudos for Big Oil, without which we couldn’t get to work? Or should we go after the owners of Exxon with pitchforks an firebrands? Better not, after all they is us! “Exxon Mobil, in fact, is owned mostly by ordinary Americans. Mutual funds, index funds and pension funds (including union pension funds) own about 52 percent of Exxon Mobil’s shares. Individual shareholders, about two million or so, own almost all the rest. The pooh-bahs who run Exxon own less than 1 percent of the company.” http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/02/business/02every.html


And, of course, the antibusiness crowd loves stories about how much Big Oil is stealing from the American people! On the contrary, in 2006, the oil industry paid $81 billion in income tax, and while Exxon’s earnings increased 89% from 2003 to 2007, their income taxes increased 170%. Exxon: Profit Pirate or Tax Victim?


The non-thinking segment of the public has been conditioned to hate the oil industry. Very few realize the extent to which they are subsidized by this industry. “According to the [Exxon] company's income statement, the amount of taxes it paid in 2008 was 2.5 times as much as its net profit. The $45.2 billion profit figure makes a snappy headline, but the $116.2 billion in taxes that it paid is relegated to a footnote—if that. Exxon's tax bill breaks down like this: income taxes, $36.5 billion; sales-based taxes, $34.5 billion; "all other" taxes, $45.2 billion.” Exxon, Big Oil Profits Evil Only Until You Weigh Their Tax Bills - US News and World Report


If Exxon’s 2008 tax bill of $116.2 billion were split equally among all tax filers who pay income tax, each filer’s share would be $1,259/year. Still hate Exxon? The Tax Foundation - Number of Americans Paying Zero Federal Income Tax Grows to 43.4 Million

Carry on, DP-deanie!
The scientific community provides the US public with reams of evidence of global warming but about third of the public ignores it so it's quite reasonable that the NSF would provide the public with something they can understand.
 
The scientific community provides the US public with reams of evidence of global warming but about third of the public ignores it so it's quite reasonable that the NSF would provide the public with something they can understand.
Bullshit. That is neither the mission nor the purpose of the NSF and has not been since its establishment in the 1950s.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/14/business/14oil.html

New projections, buried in the Interior Department's just-published budget plan, anticipate that the government will let companies pump about $65 billion worth of oil and natural gas from federal territory over the next five years without paying any royalties to the government.

Based on the administration figures, the government will give up more than $7 billion in payments between now and 2011. The companies are expected to get the largess, known as royalty relief, even though the administration assumes that oil prices will remain above $50 a barrel throughout that period.

The greed of the "Professional Left" is unending.

The greed of Hugo Chavez knows no bounds.

The greed of Obama, Pelosi and Reid is crushing.

The greed of the Democrat Party will be bitch slapped on November 2nd.

Reap the whirlwind suckers. :tongue::tongue::tongue::tongue:

:rofl:

you really believe that garbage?

b/c you know it's not like the right is greedy.

here's a hint... rich people are the ones in power;

rich people are greedy.

on both sides.

that's why cheney created our energy policy with the help of oil company and car company lobbyists.

but the hackishness of your post is heartwarming, i'm sure.

Do you honestly believe we have an energy policy in this country?

You're just mad because Greenpeace wasn't invited to the party.
 
The scientific community provides the US public with reams of evidence of global warming but about third of the public ignores it so it's quite reasonable that the NSF would provide the public with something they can understand.
Bullshit. That is neither the mission nor the purpose of the NSF and has not been since its establishment in the 1950s.

Right?

It's not the job of science to tell us how the world should be and how we should live our lives. It's the job of science to tell us what IS.

Philosophy and politics is the realm for "should".

Is the globe warming? Likely. (a little)

Is the warming man made? Maybe.

Is the warming bad? Maybe, maybe not.
 
The scientific community provides the US public with reams of evidence of global warming but about third of the public ignores it so it's quite reasonable that the NSF would provide the public with something they can understand.
Bullshit. That is neither the mission nor the purpose of the NSF and has not been since its establishment in the 1950s.
This is quite in line with the mission of the NSF. The NSF supports a wide variety of educational and informational projects for the general public. You apparently have no idea what the NSF does.

The Great Immensity explores the themes of climate change, deforestation and extinction in two distinct locations: Barro Colorado Island (BCI) in the Panama Canal and the city of Churchill in arctic Canada. Both of these extraordinary places have natural ecosystems already deeply affected by the shift in climate, centers of scientific research, and relationships to global shipping: the Panama Canal and the Port of Churchill. The play takes its name from an enormous Chinese Panamax ship that the authors observed crossing the Panama Canal.

Drawing on interviews with individuals such as botanists, paleontologists, climatologists, indigenous community leaders, Polar Bear Tour guides, and trappers, The Great Immensity gives voice to real people whose stories make the reality of present crisis tangible and viscerally felt, inspiring us all to make the profound changes this moment demands.

The Civilians / The Great Immensity
US NSF - Now Showing: Film, TV, Museums & More
 
The scientific community provides the US public with reams of evidence of global warming but about third of the public ignores it so it's quite reasonable that the NSF would provide the public with something they can understand.
Bullshit. That is neither the mission nor the purpose of the NSF and has not been since its establishment in the 1950s.
This is quite in line with the mission of the NSF. The NSF supports a wide variety of educational and informational projects for the general public. You apparently have no idea what the NSF does.

The Great Immensity explores the themes of climate change, deforestation and extinction in two distinct locations: Barro Colorado Island (BCI) in the Panama Canal and the city of Churchill in arctic Canada. Both of these extraordinary places have natural ecosystems already deeply affected by the shift in climate, centers of scientific research, and relationships to global shipping: the Panama Canal and the Port of Churchill. The play takes its name from an enormous Chinese Panamax ship that the authors observed crossing the Panama Canal.

Drawing on interviews with individuals such as botanists, paleontologists, climatologists, indigenous community leaders, Polar Bear Tour guides, and trappers, The Great Immensity gives voice to real people whose stories make the reality of present crisis tangible and viscerally felt, inspiring us all to make the profound changes this moment demands.

The Civilians / The Great Immensity
US NSF - Now Showing: Film, TV, Museums & More

LOL. Nah, I have a pretty good idea what the NSF does. Really.

Here, idiot: "to promote the progress of science; to advance the national health, prosperity, and welfare; to secure the national defense…"

What we do

As described in our strategic plan, NSF is the only federal agency whose mission includes support for all fields of fundamental science and engineering, except for medical sciences. We are tasked with keeping the United States at the leading edge of discovery in areas from astronomy to geology to zoology. So, in addition to funding research in the traditional academic areas, the agency also supports "high-risk, high pay-off" ideas, novel collaborations and numerous projects that may seem like science fiction today, but which the public will take for granted tomorrow. And in every case, we ensure that research is fully integrated with education so that today's revolutionary work will also be training tomorrow's top scientists and engineers.

How we work

NSF's task of identifying and funding work at the frontiers of science and engineering is not a "top-down" process. NSF operates from the "bottom up,"
keeping close track of research around the United States and the world, maintaining constant contact with the research community to identify ever-moving horizons of inquiry, monitoring which areas are most likely to result in spectacular progress and choosing the most promising people to conduct the research.

NSF
[Emphasis added] There is nothing remotely related to fundamental science and engineering with the theater. And, there is nothing "bottom up" about this theater funding.












You post links to educational subject matter and think that is comparable to this advocacy theater piece.

Idiot.
 
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