70 years and no vegetation change

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It seems that after 70 years there has been no change in vegetation due to "climate change". And this in the Arctic.

CO2 Science
 
Stay away from nutjob sites.

There has been a change to the vegetation in Russia. It's on fire.
 
Stay away from nutjob sites.

There has been a change to the vegetation in Russia. It's on fire.




Interesting how peer reviewed literature that doesn't meet with your pre-concieved notions(not science BTW) is "religious dogma" and the literature that supports the alarmist view (and which the IPCC has had to admit) is not peer reviewed. So what was your silly comment about "faith" there?

You are the people exhibiting religious fervor, not us.
 
Ecological Dynamics Across the Arctic Associated with Recent Climate Change -- Post et al. 325 (5946): 1355 -- Science

Science 11 September 2009:
Vol. 325. no. 5946, pp. 1355 - 1358
DOI: 10.1126/science.1173113
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Ecological Dynamics Across the Arctic Associated with Recent Climate Change
Eric Post,1,2,* Mads C. Forchhammer,2 M. Syndonia Bret-Harte,3 Terry V. Callaghan,4,5 Torben R. Christensen,6 Bo Elberling,7,8 Anthony D. Fox,9 Olivier Gilg,10,11 David S. Hik,12 Toke T. Høye,9 Rolf A. Ims,13 Erik Jeppesen,14 David R. Klein,3 Jesper Madsen,2 A. David McGuire,15 Søren Rysgaard,16 Daniel E. Schindler,17 Ian Stirling,18 Mikkel P. Tamstorf,2 Nicholas J.C. Tyler,19 Rene van der Wal,20 Jeffrey Welker,21 Philip A. Wookey,22 Niels Martin Schmidt,2 Peter Aastrup2

At the close of the Fourth International Polar Year, we take stock of the ecological consequences of recent climate change in the Arctic, focusing on effects at population, community, and ecosystem scales. Despite the buffering effect of landscape heterogeneity, Arctic ecosystems and the trophic relationships that structure them have been severely perturbed. These rapid changes may be a bellwether of changes to come at lower latitudes and have the potential to affect ecosystem services related to natural resources, food production, climate regulation, and cultural integrity. We highlight areas of ecological research that deserve priority as the Arctic continues to warm.
 
Arctic Report Card - Recent Changes in Vegetation - Van Bogaert, Walker, Jia, Grau, Hallinger, De Dapper, Jonasson, Callaghan

Recent vegetation dynamics observations across the Arctic show that, in general, shrubs have become more abundant and taller. A study in northern Alaska (Tape et al., 2006) showed that both larger and smaller shrub species have increased in size, abundance and extent over the last 50 years. As well as increasing in size and filling in empty patches, the shrubs were colonizing new areas (Figure 2). Results do vary regionally. For instance, Shvartsman et al. (1999) pointed to a decrease in shrubs along the Pechora River in western Russia (66.1° N, 57.1° E) between 1960 and 1983, a change they attributed to an increase in trees. Preliminary results from Lantz & Henry (unpublished data, Tape et al., 2006) showed a recent expansion of the shrub cover on the Canadian Mackenzie River delta (69.1° N, 135.1° W). In the Northwest Territories (65.1° N, 111.5° W), P. Grogan (personal communication, 2005; Tape et al., 2006) observed an increase in shrubs on floodplains and stream channels, whereas in Labrador (58.1° N, 72.1° W), Payette (2006) found that alder had increased in conjunction with a northward migration of the treeline.
 
Access : Climate change: Increasing shrub abundance in the Arctic : Nature

Climate change: Increasing shrub abundance in the Arctic
Matthew Sturm1, Charles Racine2 & Kenneth Tape3

Top of pageAbstractThe warming of the Alaskan Arctic during the past 150 years1 has accelerated over the last three decades2 and is expected to increase vegetation productivity in tundra if shrubs become more abundant3, 4; indeed, this transition may already be under way according to local plot studies5 and remote sensing6. Here we present evidence for a widespread increase in shrub abundance over more than 320 km2 of Arctic landscape during the past 50 years, based on a comparison of historic and modern aerial photographs. This expansion will alter the partitioning of energy in summer7 and the trapping and distribution of snow in winter8, as well as increasing the amount of carbon stored in a region that is believed to be a net source of carbon dioxide9
 
NOAA, Science, and Nature. Real peer reviewed journals. And why should anyone trust what CO2 Science says an article states? After all, we have right on this board people who post articles that they state supports their position, and when you read the article, you find the opposite is the case.
 
NOAA, Science, and Nature. Real peer reviewed journals. And why should anyone trust what CO2 Science says an article states? After all, we have right on this board people who post articles that they state supports their position, and when you read the article, you find the opposite is the case.




Hey old fraud is this the NOAA who's director claims to have a PhD? Only he doesn't? Is that the same one? Or is it the same NOAA that claims one thing in their press releases that are discounted by satellite data? Is that the same NOAA?

NOAA - National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration - NOAA: Warmest Global Sea-Surface Temperatures for August and Summer

August 2009 Global Temperature Update: +0.23 deg. C Roy Spencer, Ph. D.
 
Walleyes, once again, you are proving yourself to be a dumbass. The NOAA article was concerning the sea surface temperatures. The UAH data, sea and land. Even so, had you bothered to look at the UAH data, instead of stupidly blathering on, you might have noticed the tropic area for Aug09 was .455, signicantly warm.


Jane Lubchenco - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Jane Lubchenco



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9th Under Secretary of Commerce for Oceans and Atmosphere and Administrator of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
Incumbent
Assumed office
March 20, 2009
President Barack Obama
Preceded by Conrad C. Lautenbacher

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Born December 4, 1947 (1947-12-04) (age 62)
Denver, Colorado
Profession marine biologist
Dr. Jane Lubchenco (born December 4, 1947)[1] is an American environmental scientist and marine ecologist. On March 19, 2009, she was confirmed by the U.S. Senate as the first woman to serve as the administrator of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).[2]


The Wayne and Gladys Valley Professor of Marine Biology and Oregon State University Distinguished Professor of Zoology, she is actively engaged in teaching, research, synthesis, and communication of scientific knowledge.[3] She grew up in Colorado, received her undergraduate degree from Colorado College in 1969[4], received her PhD and taught at Harvard University.Lubchenco's research interests include biodiversity, climate change, sustainability science, and the state of the oceans. She has received numerous awards, including a MacArthur Fellowship, a Pew Fellowship, eight honorary degrees (including one from Princeton University), the 8th Annual Heinz Award in the Environment (2002)[5], and the Nierenberg Prize for Science in the Public Interest from the Scripps Institute of Oceanography (2003). Between 1997 and 1998, she served as president of the American Association for the Advancement of Science.

Following her confirmation to head NOAA and to serve as Under Secretary of Commerce for Oceans and Atmosphere, Lubchenco declared that science would guide the agency and that she expects it to play a role in developing a green economy.[2]
 
Walleyes, once again, you are proving yourself to be a dumbass. The NOAA article was concerning the sea surface temperatures. The UAH data, sea and land. Even so, had you bothered to look at the UAH data, instead of stupidly blathering on, you might have noticed the tropic area for Aug09 was .455, signicantly warm.


Jane Lubchenco - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
Jane Lubchenco



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

9th Under Secretary of Commerce for Oceans and Atmosphere and Administrator of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
Incumbent
Assumed office
March 20, 2009
President Barack Obama
Preceded by Conrad C. Lautenbacher

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Born December 4, 1947 (1947-12-04) (age 62)
Denver, Colorado
Profession marine biologist
Dr. Jane Lubchenco (born December 4, 1947)[1] is an American environmental scientist and marine ecologist. On March 19, 2009, she was confirmed by the U.S. Senate as the first woman to serve as the administrator of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).[2]


The Wayne and Gladys Valley Professor of Marine Biology and Oregon State University Distinguished Professor of Zoology, she is actively engaged in teaching, research, synthesis, and communication of scientific knowledge.[3] She grew up in Colorado, received her undergraduate degree from Colorado College in 1969[4], received her PhD and taught at Harvard University.Lubchenco's research interests include biodiversity, climate change, sustainability science, and the state of the oceans. She has received numerous awards, including a MacArthur Fellowship, a Pew Fellowship, eight honorary degrees (including one from Princeton University), the 8th Annual Heinz Award in the Environment (2002)[5], and the Nierenberg Prize for Science in the Public Interest from the Scripps Institute of Oceanography (2003). Between 1997 and 1998, she served as president of the American Association for the Advancement of Science.

Following her confirmation to head NOAA and to serve as Under Secretary of Commerce for Oceans and Atmosphere, Lubchenco declared that science would guide the agency and that she expects it to play a role in developing a green economy.[2]






Uhhh Tom Karl was the director before her. I would think that if NOAA were as good as you claim they would have actually figured out his issues before they had him as director, but then again we are dealing with NOAA aren't we:lol::lol:
 
It seems that after 70 years there has been no change in vegetation due to "climate change". And this in the Arctic.

CO2 Science

From the article:

'Svalbard ecosystems are adapted to extreme fluctuations in climate on different temporal scales and can thus be regarded as rather robust'." Then, quoting Parmesan (2006), who said that "nearly every Arctic ecosystem shows marked shifts due to climate change," they conclude their paper by writing that "based on the results presented here, we wanted to note that some Arctic ecosystems still show no evident change.


Aren't you once again pointing out the atypical and casting it as typical? The authors say it themselves, the ecosysytem in question apparently has basic differences from other more typical arctic areas.
 
Walleyes, once again, you lie. No need for it, either. No claim of a Phd. He has a Masters, and an extensive record of peer reviewed publications in the field of climatology.

THOMAS KARL NAMED HEAD OF NOAA'S NATIONAL CLIMATIC DATA CENTER

THOMAS KARL NAMED HEAD OF NOAA'S NATIONAL CLIMATIC DATA CENTER
Thomas Karl, a well-known and widely quoted scientist whose work in climate change has been published in scientific journals around the world, has been named director of the National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C., a facility of the Commerce Department's National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

"This is a challenging and exciting time for me," said Karl. "I am looking forward to leading the world's largest active archive of climate data and ensuring that it remains a viable resource for climate researchers around the world."

Karl, who has been with the climate center since 1980, most recently served as senior scientist there, where he analyzed global climate change, extreme weather events, and trends in global and U.S. climate over the past 100 years. He also led other scientists in their studies of the changing environment.

Karl holds a master's degree in meteorology from the University of Wisconsin. He is a fellow of the American Meteorological Society and chairman of the National Academy of Sciences Climate Research Committee. He has written over 85 peer-reviewed journal articles, been co-author or co-editor of numerous texts, and has published over 200 technical reports and atlases
 
Walleyes, once again, you lie. No need for it, either. No claim of a Phd. He has a Masters, and an extensive record of peer reviewed publications in the field of climatology.

THOMAS KARL NAMED HEAD OF NOAA'S NATIONAL CLIMATIC DATA CENTER

THOMAS KARL NAMED HEAD OF NOAA'S NATIONAL CLIMATIC DATA CENTER
Thomas Karl, a well-known and widely quoted scientist whose work in climate change has been published in scientific journals around the world, has been named director of the National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C., a facility of the Commerce Department's National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

"This is a challenging and exciting time for me," said Karl. "I am looking forward to leading the world's largest active archive of climate data and ensuring that it remains a viable resource for climate researchers around the world."

Karl, who has been with the climate center since 1980, most recently served as senior scientist there, where he analyzed global climate change, extreme weather events, and trends in global and U.S. climate over the past 100 years. He also led other scientists in their studies of the changing environment.

Karl holds a master's degree in meteorology from the University of Wisconsin. He is a fellow of the American Meteorological Society and chairman of the National Academy of Sciences Climate Research Committee. He has written over 85 peer-reviewed journal articles, been co-author or co-editor of numerous texts, and has published over 200 technical reports and atlases




Yes but he CLAIMED to hold a PhD. He lied. He has been discredited for that behavior.

The “Dr.” Is Out - Planet Gore - National Review Online
 
Once again, Walleyes, you lie. Where in this article did it say that Profesor Karl claimed to have a Phd? It said that someone was using the honorific of Dr. when listing his name, it did not state that he claimed to have a Phd.

The “Dr.” Is Out - Planet Gore - National Review Online

Well, the “Second Public Review Draft of the Unified Synthesis Product Global Climate Change in the United States” has been published for comment (due February 27), and we see how they decided to deal with the embarrassment posed by their insistence on calling co-lead author “Dr.” Tom Karl: they dropped such honorifics from . . . everyone. How. Pathetic. That must’ve been a fun one to sit through.

Had they been able to point out any time that Profesor Karl had claimed to have a Phd, they would have. The National Review is just a shadow of what it was when Bill Buckley was editor. No wonder his son is no longer with that rag.
 

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