7 dead in mass shooting in Australia, but their luck holds, it was only a family....

[2aguy]

The ant gunners keep claiming that Australian gun control and confiscation has stopped their mass public shootings.....

This is a lie. There have been almost a dozen public shootings in Australia since the ban and confiscation of guns from the hands of people who don't use guns to commit crimes. The only thing? The shooters in the public shooting events haven't killed 4 or more people........luck, not gun control, has helped Australia.....

Now, we have 7 people, likely a family, murdered with a gun....in Australia, a really big island.....that banned and confiscated guns...this is not a mass public shooting, this is a family killing....there is a difference.....

Now....anti gunners.....please tell us which Australian gun control law stopped this from being a mass public shooting....which Australian gun control law kept the shooter from walking into an Australian elementary school and shooting defenseless children?

We will wait patiently for your non response...

Seven dead in mass WA tragedy

NEIGHBOURS have revealed hearing early morning gunshots after seven family members were found dead at a rural property south of Perth.

The bodies of two adults were found outside close to a shed that had been converted into a residence, while five were discovered inside. All the victims appeared to have gunshot wounds, said police.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Oh! How exciting for you! Congratulations!

 

[aaronleland]

I swear when I first read this story earlier I thought to myself, "Fuck. 2aguy is going to make some stupid ass thread about it now." He can't help himself.

 

[BlackFlag]

I swear when I first read this story earlier I thought to myself, "Fuck. 2aguy is going to make some stupid ass thread about it now." He can't help himself.

Lol that’s pretty funny

 

[2aguy]

I swear when I first read this story earlier I thought to myself, "Fuck. 2aguy is going to make some stupid ass thread about it now." He can't help himself.

Yes......exposing the truth about Australian gun control would be like holy water to a vampire for a guy like you....

 

[LoneLaugher]

I swear when I first read this story earlier I thought to myself, "Fuck. 2aguy is going to make some stupid ass thread about it now." He can't help himself.

He would have started one earlier...but he had to finish first.

 

[2aguy]

I swear when I first read this story earlier I thought to myself, "Fuck. 2aguy is going to make some stupid ass thread about it now." He can't help himself.

So....maybe you can enlighten us....which Australian gun control law stopped this guy from walking into a mall, a school, a theater or any other public building and shooting 7 strangers instead of his family? Please....we will wait patiently for your non response...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You really are disgusting little puke.

 

[Nosmo King]

You seem to th No a law is a panacea. Pass a law, elimination Nate the crime.

But it does not work that way. Never has.

By your thinking, because speed limits do not eliminate speeding, we should revoke speed limits due to there apparent ineffectiveness.

The goal of gun control is to lessen the hazard. Every cogent person realizes the hazard can never be eliminated.

 

[2aguy]

You really are disgusting little puke.

Wow....did you work really hard on that one?

For you.....can you tell the class which Australian gun control laws kept this shooter from walking into a mall, a school, a church or a theater and shooting 7 strangers?

Your fake outrage is a nice cover for not being able to answer that question....

You are a doofus....but thanks for posting...

 

[2aguy]

You seem to th No a law is a panacea. Pass a law, elimination Nate the crime.

But it does not work that way. Never has.

By your thinking, because speed limits do not eliminate speeding, we should revoke speed limits due to there apparent ineffectiveness.

The goal of gun control is to lessen the hazard. Every cogent person realizes the hazard can never be eliminated.

I know, I know, you are an idiot so you don't understand the issue here. The concept that silly people like you keep pushing is that Australian gun confiscation and gun control laws stopped Australia from ever having a mass public shooting.....you guy, well, you guys in the media and the democrat party, keep telling us that Australian gun control stopped mass shootings there...

Again...I ask you, doofus, which Australian gun control law stopped this shooter from walking into an elementary school?

By your thinking, because speed limits do not eliminate speeding, we should revoke speed limits due to there apparent ineffectiveness.

The goal of gun control is to lessen the hazard. Every cogent person realizes the hazard can never be eliminated

No....what you guys tell us is that less guns = less gun crime.....Britain shows us this isn't true....the United States shows us this isn't true....Britain also banned and confiscated guns, and their gun crime rate keeps going up. The United States has more people who own and actually carry guns, over 17million people now carry guns for self defense, and our gun murder rate, our gun crime rate and our violent crime rate keep going down.....

Gun Crime in Australia is going up....

You are wrong, nothing you guys ever predict about guns comes true....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[Dan Stubbs]

The ant gunners keep claiming that Australian gun control and confiscation has stopped their mass public shootings.....

This is a lie. There have been almost a dozen public shootings in Australia since the ban and confiscation of guns from the hands of people who don't use guns to commit crimes. The only thing? The shooters in the public shooting events haven't killed 4 or more people........luck, not gun control, has helped Australia.....

Now, we have 7 people, likely a family, murdered with a gun....in Australia, a really big island.....that banned and confiscated guns...this is not a mass public shooting, this is a family killing....there is a difference.....

Now....anti gunners.....please tell us which Australian gun control law stopped this from being a mass public shooting....which Australian gun control law kept the shooter from walking into an Australian elementary school and shooting defenseless children?

We will wait patiently for your non response...

Seven dead in mass WA tragedy

NEIGHBOURS have revealed hearing early morning gunshots after seven family members were found dead at a rural property south of Perth.

The bodies of two adults were found outside close to a shed that had been converted into a residence, while five were discovered inside. All the victims appeared to have gunshot wounds, said police.

That has got to be FALSE NEWS since they outlawed guns.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

[/QUOTE]
That has got to be FALSE NEWS since they outlawed guns.[/QUOTE]

And they outlawed murder, too! Clearly murder laws are useless. Hee haw, Cletus!

 

[2aguy]

That has got to be FALSE NEWS since they outlawed guns.[/QUOTE]

And they outlawed murder, too! Clearly murder laws are useless. Hee haw, Cletus![/QUOTE]


You guys still cling to that stupid concept.......you really are stupid.

The point, doofus, is that taking guns away from people who don't use them for criminal acts is not going to lower the gun crime rate, the gun murder rate or even the violent crime rate...which is what you morons say will happen. Taking guns away from normal, law abiding people does not lower the crime rate, Britain, Australia, Europe show this......as well as the United States....

What helps to lower the gun crime rate...... locking up violent gun criminals. I would be interested in knowing, from you, why democrats keep letting violent gun criminals out of jail where they go on to commit the very murder you asshats keep bitching about....

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Are you kidding?

ALL the nations that have strict gun control or have had confiscations are gonna slowly see their gun violence rates tick up...up....up.....up

And what doesn't get done with guns will get done with vehicles, knives etc.

Those SILLY Liberals.....thinking they can change human behavior by removing objects and passing laws but totally ignoring the REAL root cause of the problem.

If that's not stupidity...........

 

[2aguy]

That has got to be FALSE NEWS since they outlawed guns.[/QUOTE]

And they outlawed murder, too! Clearly murder laws are useless. Hee haw, Cletus![/QUOTE]


Yes.....again, which Australian gun control laws kept this shooter from murdering 7 strangers?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Those SILLY Liberals.....thinking they can change human behavior by removing objects and passing laws

Actually, any rational person can think that, because it is true. This is why we have laws. You sound like a fool. Try to articulate your thoughts and arguments better.

 

[aaronleland]

ALL the nations that have strict gun control or have had confiscations are gonna slowly see their gun violence rates tick up...up....up.....up

Since the Port Arthur massacre Australia hasn't had a mass shooting in 22 years.

 

[2aguy]

ALL the nations that have strict gun control or have had confiscations are gonna slowly see their gun violence rates tick up...up....up.....up

Since the Port Arthur massacre Australia hasn't had a mass shooting in 22 years.

Wrong.....Australia has had close to 15 public shootings, the only thing keeping them from being mass public shootings is the shooter didn't murder 4 people....

Which Australian gun control law kept the shooters in these public shootings from murdering 4 or more of their victims.....?

Bad shooting and a lack of will on the part of a public shooter does not show that Australia's gun control laws stopped mass public shootings....

Timeline of major crimes in Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

• 16 January 1998 to 15 June 2009 – Melbourne gangland killings – A series of 35 murders of crime figures and their associates that began with the slaying of Alphonse Gangitano in his home, most likely by Jason Moran, the latest victim being Des Moran who was murdered in Ascot Vale on 15 June 2009.
• 16 August 1998 – Victorian police officers Gary Silk and Rodney Miller were shot dead in an ambush by Bendali Debs and Jason Joseph Roberts in the Moorabbin Police murders.

• 3 August 1999 – La Trobe University shooting – Jonathan Brett Horrocks walked into the cafeteria in La Trobe university in Melbourne Victoria armed with a 38 caliber revolver handgun and opened fire killing Leon Capraro the boss and manager off the cafeteria and wounding a woman who was a student at the university.

• 13 March 2000 – Millewa State Forest Murders – Barbara and Stephen Brooks and Stacie Willoughby were found dead, all three having been shot execution style and left in the forest.[60][61]

• 26 May 2002 – A Vietnamese man walked into a Vietnamese wedding reception in Cabramatta Sydney, New South Wales armed with a handgun and opened fire wounding seven people.
• • 14 October 2002 – Dr. Margret Tobin, the South Australian head of Mental Health Services, was shot dead by Jean Eric Gassy as she walked out of a lift in her office building.
  • 21 October 2002 – Monash University shooting – Huan Xiang opened fire in a tutorial room, killing two and injuring five.
  • 25 October 2003 – Greenacre double murder – A man and a woman are shot dead in a house in the suburb of Greenacre, Sydney which was the result of a feud between two Middle Eastern crime families, 24-year-old Ziad Abdulrazak was shot 10 times in the chest and head and 22-year-old Mervat Hamka was shot twice in the neck while she slept in her bedroom, up to 100 shots were fired into the house from four men who were later arrested and convicted of the murders.
  • 26 July 2004 – Security guard Karen Brown shot dead armed robber William Aquilina in a Sydney carpark after he violently bashed her and stole the hotel's takings. Brown was charged with murder but acquitted on the grounds of self-defence.[66][67]

• 18 June 2007 – Melbourne CBD shooting – Christopher Wayne Hudson opened fire on three people, killing one and seriously wounding two others who intervened when Hudson was assaulting his girlfriend at a busy Melbourne intersection during the morning peak. He gave himself up to police in Wallan, Victoria on 20 June.[71]

• 10 April 2010 – Rajesh Osborne shot and killed his three children, 12 year-old Asia, 10-year-old Jarius and 7-year-old Grace before killing himself in Roxburgh, Victoria.[citation needed]

• 28 April 2011 – 2011 Hectorville siege – Donato Anthony Corbo shot dead Kobus and Annetjie Snyman and their son-in-law Luc Mombers and seriously wounded Mr Mombers' 14-year-old son Marcel and a police officer at Hectorville, South Australia before being arrested after an eight-hour stand off.
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• 29 January 2012 – Giovanni Focarelli, son of Comancheros gang member Vincenzo Focarelli, was shot dead whilst Vincenzo survived the fourth attempt on his life.[79]

• 28 April 2012 – A man opened fire in a busy shopping mall in Robina on the Gold Coast shooting Bandidos bikie Jacques Teamo. A woman who was an innocent bystander was also injured from a shotgun blast to the leg. Neither of the victims died, but the incident highlighted the recent increase in gun crime across major Australian cities including Sydney, Brisbane and Adelaide.[citation needed]

• 23 May 2012 – Christopher 'Badness' Binse, a career criminal well known to police, was arrested after a 44-hour siege at an East Keilor home in Melbourne's north west. During the siege, Binse fired several shots at police and refused to co-operate with negotiators; eventually tear gas had to be used to force him out of the house, at which point he refused to put down his weapon and was then sprayed with a volley of non-lethal bullets.[citation needed]

• 15 December 2012 – Aaron Carlino murdered drug dealer Stephen Cookson in his East Perth home by shooting him twice in the head and then he cut up and dismembered his body. He buried his arms legs and torso in the backyard of his house and he wrapped his head in a plastic bag and dumped it on Rottnest Island. The head of Cookson was later found washed up on Rottnest Island by an 11-year-old girl. Carlino was convicted of the murder and was sentenced to life in prison.[citation needed]
• 8 March 2013 – Queen Street mall siege – Lee Matthew Hiller entered the shopping mall on Queen Street Brisbane Queensland armed with a revolver and threatened shoppers and staff with the revolver, causing a 90-minute siege which ended when Hiller was shot and wounded in the arm by a police officer from the elite Specialist Emergency Response Team. Hiller was then later taken to hospital and was treated for his injury; he pleaded gulity to 20 charges and was sentenced to four-and-a-half years in jail with a non-parole period of two years and three months.[citation needed]
• 29 July 2013 – Two bikie gang associates, Vasko Boskovski and Bassil Hijazi were shot dead in two separate shooting incidents minutes apart in South West Sydney. The previous week Bassil Hijazi had survived a previous attempt against his life after he was shot inside his car.[citation needed]

• 9 September 2014 – Lockhart massacre – Geoff Hunt shot and killed his wife, Kim, his 10-year-old son Fletcher, and his daughters Mia, eight and Phoebe, six before killing himself on a farm in Lockhart in the Riverina district near Wagga Wagga New South Wales. The body of Geoff Hunt and a firearm are later found in a dam on the farm by police divers and a suicide note written by Geoff Hunt is also found inside the house on the farm.[citation needed]

• 22 October 2014 – Wedderburn shootings – Ian Jamieson shot dead Peter Lockhart, Peter's wife Mary and Mary's son Greg Holmes on two farm properties in Wedderburn, Victoria over a property dispute. Jamieson surrendered to police after a three-and-a-half hour siege.[citation needed]
• 7 November 2014 – Jordy Brook carjacked a Channel 7 news cameraman at gun point during a crime spree on the Sunshine Coast, Queensland. He was later captured and arrested by police after luring police on a high speed chase and crashing the car.[citation needed]

• 12 November 2014 – Jamie Edwards and Joelene Joyce a married couple who were drug dealers are found shot dead in a car on a highway in the town of Moama, New South Wales.[86]

• 15 December 2014 – 2014 Sydney hostage crisis – Seventeen people were taken hostage in a cafe in Martin Place, Sydney by Man Haron Monis. The hostage crisis was resolved in the early hours of 16 December, sixteen hours after it commenced, when armed police stormed the premises. Monis and two hostages were killed in the course of the crisis.[87]

• 27 June 2015 – Hermidale triple murder – the bodies of three people, two men and a woman are found shot dead on a property in a rural farming community in the town of Hermidale west of Nyngan, the bodies of 28-year-old Jacob Cumberland his father 59-year-old Stephen Cumberland and a 36-year-old woman were found with gun shot wounds, the body of Jacob Cumberland was found on the drive way of the property, the body of the 36-year-old woman was found in the backyard of the property and the body of Stephen Cumberland was found in a burnt out caravan on the property. 61-year-old Allan O'Connor is later arrested and charged with the murders.

• 10 September 2015 – A 49-year-old woman is shot dead in a Mc Donald's restaurant in Gold Coast by her 57-year-old ex partner, who then turned the gun on himself afterwards and shot himself dead.
• 2 October 2015 - 2015 Parramatta shooting On 2 October 2015, Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar, a 15-year-old boy, shot and killed Curtis Cheng, an unarmed police civilian finance worker, outside the New South Wales Police Force headquarters in Parramatta, Australia. Jabar was subsequently shot and killed by special constables who were protecting the police station.