Discussion in 'Clean Debate Zone' started by skews13, Aug 28, 2018.
Ponzi didn't think so, either. Nor did Samuel Insull.
Uhm money is not everything in life who told you that? If it was I would be a white collar guy instead of blue collar and not do for a living what I do
Everything I learned about business i learned when I was in the second grade and ran lemonade stands, it appears liberals never even did that with this nonsense of a $15 dollar National minimum wage.
The fact is since most of the 'money' goes straight to the top without circulating through the economy hardly at all
Still funny. Almost as funny as Tesla.
I don't disagree
I am a left winger claiming wealth is an illusion. I look at the issue more holistically. The poor today have a higher standard of living than the poor of the past. Same for the working class/middle classes. I would like to see more opportunities for people to live more purposeful lives, but that won't be achieved by $15 minimum wages that will just drive up the cost of everything and add to the financial burdens of those on fixed incomes like the poor and elderly. With 30 year bond rates at 3% there is no market pressure to contain public debt as we are still moving bonds. The reason most money goes straight to the top is because of Amazon and other online retailers, telcom expenses and the like. Not much you are going to be able able to do about that from a "tax the rich" footing. Ironically, trump talking about going after Amazon and Google very well could benefit the lower classes as far as money circulation issues, but the democrats will oppose it just because Trump supports it. Ironic in a lot of ways, sad in most. I see very few people who think any issues through as to what the practical outcomes might be. Soros, ThinkBlue and the like have totally ruined any pretense of compassion or logic in the DNC. I will celebrate the day that man dies.
And that "diagnosis" come from someone who described themselves as "a change strategist working on behalf of humanity, and also a complexity researcher, cognitive scientist, and evangelist for the field of culture design."? Really? Let me translate for those of you who haven't been hanging around colleges lately! Joe Brewer is someone who majored in something that has no utility in today's society which means he isn't pulling down squat for pay if he has a job at all...which means he thinks rich people should share their money with him...because of course...that would be "fair"! (eye roll)
That's because of a lot of factors, like zoning laws and vagrancy laws, and fewer mentally ill people on the streets in many states; I wouldn't say it applies across the board, since most towns simply drive them elsewhere and let somebody else deal with them. Social Security is also a major factor. But hwe know from the Toddster and other clueless types that SS has to go, since it only lets the 'Unproductive' live longer and stuff, and The Toddster claims he's 'tried of paying for that kind of stuff', being among the allegedly 'highly productive' he says he is. Personally I think he's just a trust fund kid, or some lowly stock peddler with an SR-7 running around rumor mongering hoping to effect stick prices one way or another depending on what he's gambling on at the moment, like most losers who don't make much money being 'all productive n stuff' so they count on winning bets in the Big Casino.
Not really; people wildly over-estimate the labor costs of most things. It isn't very high, and doubling minimum wage to reflect the real inflation that is already ravaging the poor isn't going to hurt them. Businesses don't pass along cost savings of any kind unless they have to, so even if wages were allowed to go to half what the minimum wage rates are now you wouldn't see any of it passed along to customers, it will just go straight to the top, same place the labor cost savings from off-shoring go.
Yes, because wealth is concentrated now there aren't as many customers for the bonds. With all the money sitting at the top, there is also a lot out there not being used and is avalable for letting out at 3% or less; a lot of money seeking shelter from overseas is pouring in as well; they're actually paying negative interest in some regions just to be able to park the cash somewhere, anywhere at all.
the 'tax the rich' thing is because there is nobody left to tax, they've busted out 'everybody else', no middle class large enough to sustain even basic infrastructure any more. The problem existed long before Amazon and 'online retailing', though we're going to see sales taxes on their free tides coming to an end soon; some state have already started.
Probably accurate, but then he chose to run as a Republican, which I guess is the right choice, since he won after all, cutting them out, but he never had any real allies in the rest of the system, so he will just be fighting the scum all throughout his term; we don't see many Republicans who aren't busy stabbing him in the back and willing to stand up to their pork barrel buddies across the aisle, either. They're all scum, playing 'Good Cop-Bad Cop' while they await our demise as a free country, and set up theri New Best Friends Forever, the Red Chinese. Many companies already went over, Nike is a recent one, they loves them some Commies like the stupid ball player, and they already have their sweatshops and prison factories overseas, so some gimp who praises Castro is the exact right guy they need as a spokesman.
They quit being a workingman's or Liberal Party a long time ago, which is why the passed their 'Super Delegate Rule' and tossed their worker under the bus in favor of assorted racists, sicko deviants, and left wing traitors.
All the right wing spammers here can come up with is some stupid meme about 'productivity n stuff', and how everybody but them is 'unproductive' or some such rubbish, and we need to lower wages levels to Viet nam's or India's or something, i.e. they don't know shit either.
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