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What's the comparison to the population in general?
I know being in combat changes people forever, but when people make these claims w/o comparisons, there's usually a lack of facts.
Suicide Rate of Young Veterans Soars - CBS NewsThe VA calculated the numbers using Centers for Disease Control and Prevention numbers from 16 states. In 2005, the rate per 100,000 veterans among men ages 18-29 was 44.99, compared with 56.77 in 2007, the VA said. It did not release data for other population groups.
Army suicides set record in July
The U.S. Army suffered a record 32 suicides in July, the most since it began releasing monthly figures in 2009.
The high number of deaths represents a setback for the Army, which has put a heavy focus on reducing suicides in recent years. The number includes 22 active-duty soldiers and 10 reservists. The previous record was 31, from June 2010.
Army suicides set record in July - The Washington Post
If the suicide rate among troops is compared to a population that is similar to the military in terms of age, race and sex, the rate in the Army and Marine Corps appears to be about the same or slightly lower than the population at large, according to the Rand Corp., a government-funded think tank.
What's the comparison to the population in general?
I know being in combat changes people forever, but when people make these claims w/o comparisons, there's usually a lack of facts.
and, your link-
If the suicide rate among troops is compared to a population that is similar to the military in terms of age, race and sex, the rate in the Army and Marine Corps appears to be about the same or slightly lower than the population at large, according to the Rand Corp., a government-funded think tank.
Oh, and thank you for verifying my immediate thoughts laid out on page 1, I make 32 x 12 as 384?
In recent years, the Armys suicide rate has surpassed the rate for the overall population. Comparing suicide rates among soldiers is difficult because the latest national suicide statistics, which are compiled by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, are about three years old.
Does the military accept clinically depressed people?
Army suicides set record in July
The U.S. Army suffered a record 32 suicides in July, the most since it began releasing monthly figures in 2009.
The high number of deaths represents a setback for the Army, which has put a heavy focus on reducing suicides in recent years. The number includes 22 active-duty soldiers and 10 reservists. The previous record was 31, from June 2010.
Army suicides set record in July - The Washington Post
and, your link-
If the suicide rate among troops is compared to a population that is similar to the military in terms of age, race and sex, the rate in the Army and Marine Corps appears to be about the same or slightly lower than the population at large, according to the Rand Corp., a government-funded think tank.
Oh, and thank you for verifying my immediate thoughts laid out on page 1, I make 32 x 12 as 384?
and, your link-
If the suicide rate among troops is compared to a population that is similar to the military in terms of age, race and sex, the rate in the Army and Marine Corps appears to be about the same or slightly lower than the population at large, according to the Rand Corp., a government-funded think tank.
Oh, and thank you for verifying my immediate thoughts laid out on page 1, I make 32 x 12 as 384?
The paragraph above the one you quoted:
In recent years, the Armys suicide rate has surpassed the rate for the overall population. Comparing suicide rates among soldiers is difficult because the latest national suicide statistics, which are compiled by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, are about three years old.
Army suicides set record in July
The U.S. Army suffered a record 32 suicides in July, the most since it began releasing monthly figures in 2009.
The high number of deaths represents a setback for the Army, which has put a heavy focus on reducing suicides in recent years. The number includes 22 active-duty soldiers and 10 reservists. The previous record was 31, from June 2010.
Army suicides set record in July - The Washington Post
and, your link-
If the suicide rate among troops is compared to a population that is similar to the military in terms of age, race and sex, the rate in the Army and Marine Corps appears to be about the same or slightly lower than the population at large, according to the Rand Corp., a government-funded think tank.
Oh, and thank you for verifying my immediate thoughts laid out on page 1, I make 32 x 12 as 384?
That's active duty. Are veterans considered only active duty? I find it funny that you would sugarcoat this issue.
What is your criteria for determining he is real and others are not?
About 30,000 Americans take their lives every year. The world suicide prevention group notes that worldwide suicide rates have increased 60% in 45 years. Many of the Veterans today are what we used to call "citizen soldiers" which means they come back to face the same problems that everyone in their age group faces like unemployment and drug use. We do everything we can for Veterans with counseling and free education. It's a shame that certain factions use the statistics for political purposes. It seems that female Veterans are three times more likely to take their lives than non-veterans. Did liberal democrats do women a favor by authorizing them to serve in combat?
The right thinks it not enough so they will vote against raising the debt limit which will cause these numbers to rise
In the work that I do, I see a lot of psychiatric issues with active military, including attempted suicide.
Many of them are facing the issues everyone has...divorce, financial issues, problems with work or chain of command, (boss/supervisor) family/relationship issues.
Some of them are just at the age where a mental disorder, such a bipolar, mood disorder, personality disorder, are ripe for their first their 'episode' and diagnosis. Being in the military could have nothing to do with it, or it could have been the triggering factor.
A lot are suffering from PTSD from one deployment or multiple. These young men and women, some of whom not long ago, were high school students, their biggest concern was passing a test or who to take the the prom, go into these siutations having learned to fight and defend, but are unprepared for the degree of hate and visciousness they encounter from the very people we are there trying to assist, at least according to the government spin on things. They are unprepared for the unevitable atrocities of war, some so horrid no one should be expected to wrap their head around and live with it.
Almost always, alcohol and/or some other substance abuse plays a part, generally used to drown out the pain, symptoms of PTSD or forget for just a while what they've been exposed to or what they are dealing with, just to cope.
Not even one of them has uttered a word about the debt ceiling as having contributed whatesoever to their problems.
In the work that I do, I see a lot of psychiatric issues with active military, including attempted suicide.
Many of them are facing the issues everyone has...divorce, financial issues, problems with work or chain of command, (boss/supervisor) family/relationship issues.
Some of them are just at the age where a mental disorder, such a bipolar, mood disorder, personality disorder, are ripe for their first their 'episode' and diagnosis. Being in the military could have nothing to do with it, or it could have been the triggering factor.
A lot are suffering from PTSD from one deployment or multiple. These young men and women, some of whom not long ago, were high school students, their biggest concern was passing a test or who to take the the prom, go into these siutations having learned to fight and defend, but are unprepared for the degree of hate and visciousness they encounter from the very people we are there trying to assist, at least according to the government spin on things. They are unprepared for the unevitable atrocities of war, some so horrid no one should be expected to wrap their head around and live with it.
Almost always, alcohol and/or some other substance abuse plays a part, generally used to drown out the pain, symptoms of PTSD or forget for just a while what they've been exposed to or what they are dealing with, just to cope.
Not even one of them has uttered a word about the debt ceiling as having contributed whatesoever to their problems.
That was not my point.
My point was the if we let the debt ceiling default happen more of those vets would go without treatment.
That was one of the many things the right was willing to play politics with.
18 x 365=6570
Now you will have to start hating math too to retain your historically failed ideas.
18 vets vs. 65 civilians.
I am still failing to see your stupid point.
