53% of Americans Think Republicans are Too Extreme

[CandySlice]

Republicans have lost 4 of the last 6 Presidential elections.

Republicans have lost 5 of the last 6 Presidential popular votes.

Republicans have lost moderates in 5 of the last 6 Presidential elections.

So I guess the answer might be "yes."

Or at least stop being a party so beholden to its base.

Toro, you know how this goes.
Not a democrat nor a member of LULAC could be counted on to look into the future and see how really bad it's going to get in Obama's second term. They have to be not only shown but actually have their noses rubbed in it.
You'll hear America singing a different tune in about a year from now when the free goodies fail to materialize and Obama's spending hits critical mass. The pendulum ALWAYS swings back. I just hope there is something left to swing back to.

I hope the pendulum swings back, but don't assume it will certainly happen. The Democrats held the House for 40 years. We heard all the same apocalyptic scenarios in 08 that didn't happen. If the Republicans don't get competitive, then we can have a long period of Democrat rule. And I think that's a bad thing.

Politics is about attaining power and implementing as much of your agenda as possible, not being ideologically pure and getting all or none. The Republican party today reminds me of the Democrats in the 70s and 80s.

Truth is, Toro, if you are under 35 (Obama's base being young people and freeloaders) you don't remember what this country used to be. You look around at the squalid mess that is todays politics, featuring a snarky, smart-assed 'president' that derides his colleagues AND his constituents like an immature grade-schooler, a congress that only cares about their next raise, political parties being run by Creme de la Cream babies that were brought up to believe there are no winners and no losers and self-esteem is more important than integrity and you think this is how it's supposed to be.
You don't remember a time when we weren't afraid all the time. You don't remember a time when a president, no matter what party, was a guy to be looked up to, not be embarrassed by. You don't remember when the working man had a fair shot and the dollar was worth something.
It's a shame we taught our children to be such crumbs, to think Mommy and Daddy owe them health insurance til they're 26, who have no interest in tryng to make things better because it's just too hard.
I wish they could have seen my America. Warts and all. It would make them ashamed (can we even have that emotion anymore?) that they've settled so cheaply and for so little.

 

[bodecea]

Who cares what Americans think at this point?! They showed how much they thought when they re-elected Obama.

Are you retarded? I care. The fact that Americans see the GOP as too extreme is a great thing for America. If you don't like how your fellow citizens voted, don't let the door hit you on the ass.

Shut the fuck up. You don't even realize how extreme you are, extremely stupid that is. You think anyone who cares about freedom is extreme. Go fuck yourself, asshole!

My goodness. A hissy fit.

 

[CandySlice]

Who cares what Americans think at this point?! They showed how much they thought when they re-elected Obama.

Bingo! I find it difficult, after Obama's re-election, to imagine Americans thinking much of anything at all.

negged & put on ignore

Oh no! Not THAT!! Anything but THAT!!

 

[RandallFlagg]

Toro, you know how this goes.
Not a democrat nor a member of LULAC could be counted on to look into the future and see how really bad it's going to get in Obama's second term. They have to be not only shown but actually have their noses rubbed in it.
You'll hear America singing a different tune in about a year from now when the free goodies fail to materialize and Obama's spending hits critical mass. The pendulum ALWAYS swings back. I just hope there is something left to swing back to.

I hope the pendulum swings back, but don't assume it will certainly happen. The Democrats held the House for 40 years. We heard all the same apocalyptic scenarios in 08 that didn't happen. If the Republicans don't get competitive, then we can have a long period of Democrat rule. And I think that's a bad thing.

Politics is about attaining power and implementing as much of your agenda as possible, not being ideologically pure and getting all or none. The Republican party today reminds me of the Democrats in the 70s and 80s.

Truth is, Toro, if you are under 35 (Obama's base being young people and freeloaders) you don't remember what this country used to be. You look around at the squalid mess that is todays politics, featuring a snarky, smart-assed 'president' that derides his colleagues AND his constituents like an immature grade-schooler, a congress that only cares about their next raise, political partys being run by Creme de la Cream babies that were brought up to believe there are no winners and no losers and self-esteem is more important than integrity and you think this is how it's supposed to be.
You don't remember a time when we weren't afraid all the time. You don't remember a time when a president, no matter what party, was a guy to be looked up to, not be embarrassed by. You don't remember when the working man had a fair shot and the dollar was worth something.
It's a shame we taught our children to be such crumbs, to think Mommy and Daddy owe them health insurance til they're 26, who have no interest in tryng to make things better because it's just too hard.
I wish they could have seen my America. Warts and all. It would make them ashamed (can we even have that emotion anymore?) that they've settled so cheaply and for so little.

I see you came from the same time as me......you know, everything changes. That's the natural order of the universe. Unfortunately, as Yeats said so well:

Things fall apart; The center does not hold.


Things are quickly falling apart in this country. Very quickly.

Or, as T.S. Elliot stated:

This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends

Not with a bang, but a whimper

Thanks for your post. I had began to believe that I was the only person left alive who remembered "America"

God bless you!

 

[Old Rocks]

Look at the margins in these polls. And, once again, just like before the election, you can tell me that they mean nothing.

RealClearPolitics - State of the Union

 

[Old Rocks]

I hope the pendulum swings back, but don't assume it will certainly happen. The Democrats held the House for 40 years. We heard all the same apocalyptic scenarios in 08 that didn't happen. If the Republicans don't get competitive, then we can have a long period of Democrat rule. And I think that's a bad thing.

Politics is about attaining power and implementing as much of your agenda as possible, not being ideologically pure and getting all or none. The Republican party today reminds me of the Democrats in the 70s and 80s.

Truth is, Toro, if you are under 35 (Obama's base being young people and freeloaders) you don't remember what this country used to be. You look around at the squalid mess that is todays politics, featuring a snarky, smart-assed 'president' that derides his colleagues AND his constituents like an immature grade-schooler, a congress that only cares about their next raise, political partys being run by Creme de la Cream babies that were brought up to believe there are no winners and no losers and self-esteem is more important than integrity and you think this is how it's supposed to be.
You don't remember a time when we weren't afraid all the time. You don't remember a time when a president, no matter what party, was a guy to be looked up to, not be embarrassed by. You don't remember when the working man had a fair shot and the dollar was worth something.
It's a shame we taught our children to be such crumbs, to think Mommy and Daddy owe them health insurance til they're 26, who have no interest in tryng to make things better because it's just too hard.
I wish they could have seen my America. Warts and all. It would make them ashamed (can we even have that emotion anymore?) that they've settled so cheaply and for so little.

I see you came from the same time as me......you know, everything changes. That's the natural order of the universe. Unfortunately, as Yeats said so well:

Things fall apart; The center does not hold.


Things are quickly falling apart in this country. Very quickly.

Or, as T.S. Elliot stated:

This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends

Not with a bang, but a whimper

Thanks for your post. I had began to believe that I was the only person left alive who remembered "America"

God bless you!

Silly ass whining bastards. Not a brain between you. Older than both of you. Yes, I remember how it was in the late 40's, 50's, and 60's. We had people like Joe McCarthy and Westbrook Pegler. We had thieves and killers. But we also had only 150 million people in this nation then. More wide open spaces equals more freedom.

As for the world ending, Daveboy, you are a drama queen. Disappointed by yesterday?

 

[CandySlice]

I hope the pendulum swings back, but don't assume it will certainly happen. The Democrats held the House for 40 years. We heard all the same apocalyptic scenarios in 08 that didn't happen. If the Republicans don't get competitive, then we can have a long period of Democrat rule. And I think that's a bad thing.

Politics is about attaining power and implementing as much of your agenda as possible, not being ideologically pure and getting all or none. The Republican party today reminds me of the Democrats in the 70s and 80s.

Truth is, Toro, if you are under 35 (Obama's base being young people and freeloaders) you don't remember what this country used to be. You look around at the squalid mess that is todays politics, featuring a snarky, smart-assed 'president' that derides his colleagues AND his constituents like an immature grade-schooler, a congress that only cares about their next raise, political partys being run by Creme de la Cream babies that were brought up to believe there are no winners and no losers and self-esteem is more important than integrity and you think this is how it's supposed to be.
You don't remember a time when we weren't afraid all the time. You don't remember a time when a president, no matter what party, was a guy to be looked up to, not be embarrassed by. You don't remember when the working man had a fair shot and the dollar was worth something.
It's a shame we taught our children to be such crumbs, to think Mommy and Daddy owe them health insurance til they're 26, who have no interest in tryng to make things better because it's just too hard.
I wish they could have seen my America. Warts and all. It would make them ashamed (can we even have that emotion anymore?) that they've settled so cheaply and for so little.

I see you came from the same time as me......you know, everything changes. That's the natural order of the universe. Unfortunately, as Yeats said so well:

Things fall apart; The center does not hold.


Things are quickly falling apart in this country. Very quickly.

Or, as T.S. Elliot stated:

This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends

Not with a bang, but a whimper

Thanks for your post. I had began to believe that I was the only person left alive who remembered "America"

God bless you!

Back to ya, Buddy. Been a long time since I read 'The Stand'. How is old Randall these days? Somewhere in the upper eschelons of Government unless I miss my guessl

 

[CandySlice]

Truth is, Toro, if you are under 35 (Obama's base being young people and freeloaders) you don't remember what this country used to be. You look around at the squalid mess that is todays politics, featuring a snarky, smart-assed 'president' that derides his colleagues AND his constituents like an immature grade-schooler, a congress that only cares about their next raise, political partys being run by Creme de la Cream babies that were brought up to believe there are no winners and no losers and self-esteem is more important than integrity and you think this is how it's supposed to be.
You don't remember a time when we weren't afraid all the time. You don't remember a time when a president, no matter what party, was a guy to be looked up to, not be embarrassed by. You don't remember when the working man had a fair shot and the dollar was worth something.
It's a shame we taught our children to be such crumbs, to think Mommy and Daddy owe them health insurance til they're 26, who have no interest in tryng to make things better because it's just too hard.
I wish they could have seen my America. Warts and all. It would make them ashamed (can we even have that emotion anymore?) that they've settled so cheaply and for so little.

I see you came from the same time as me......you know, everything changes. That's the natural order of the universe. Unfortunately, as Yeats said so well:

Things fall apart; The center does not hold.


Things are quickly falling apart in this country. Very quickly.

Or, as T.S. Elliot stated:

This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends

Not with a bang, but a whimper

Thanks for your post. I had began to believe that I was the only person left alive who remembered "America"

God bless you!

Silly ass whining bastards. Not a brain between you. Older than both of you. Yes, I remember how it was in the late 40's, 50's, and 60's. We had people like Joe McCarthy and Westbrook Pegler. We had thieves and killers. But we also had only 150 million people in this nation then. More wide open spaces equals more freedom.

As for the world ending, Daveboy, you are a drama queen. Disappointed by yesterday?

I DID say warts and all. Nice thing was we didn't have to hear quite as much from people like you, either.

 

[Votto]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/12/20/rel18c-1.pdf

Wide sampling error though.

The same percentage problably thinks that increasing taxes on the rich will come close to balancing a budget.

 

[Dragonlady]

Not a democrat nor a member of LULAC could be counted on to look into the future and see how really bad it's going to get in Obama's second term. They have to be not only shown but actually have their noses rubbed in it.
You'll hear America singing a different tune in about a year from now when the free goodies fail to materialize and Obama's spending hits critical mass. The pendulum ALWAYS swings back. I just hope there is something left to swing back to.

Gee, if you change the name from "Obama" to "Bush" in the reference to spending and you have what liberals were saying at the beginning of Bush's second term. And you know what, there really wasn't anything left to swing back to. When Obama took office the economy was in freefall, the auto industry was about to go out of business, and foreclosures had reached record numbers. Oh, and the entire world's banking system was in crisis.

Think where we would be now if there was some way W could have stolen another election.

 

[Votto]

Not a democrat nor a member of LULAC could be counted on to look into the future and see how really bad it's going to get in Obama's second term. They have to be not only shown but actually have their noses rubbed in it.
You'll hear America singing a different tune in about a year from now when the free goodies fail to materialize and Obama's spending hits critical mass. The pendulum ALWAYS swings back. I just hope there is something left to swing back to.

Gee, if you change the name from "Obama" to "Bush" in the reference to spending and you have what liberals were saying at the beginning of Bush's second term. And you know what, there really wasn't anything left to swing back to. When Obama took office the economy was in freefall, the auto industry was about to go out of business, and foreclosures had reached record numbers. Oh, and the entire world's banking system was in crisis.

Think where we would be now if there was some way W could have stolen another election.

What exactly did Bush do to triggor the crisis?

 

[cutter]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/12/20/rel18c-1.pdf

Wide sampling error though.

53% of Americans are full of crap, look at who they elected president.

 

[Old Rocks]

The best man that was running.

 

[Votto]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/12/20/rel18c-1.pdf

Wide sampling error though.

53% of Americans are full of crap, look at who they elected president.

These are people who elected both "W" and Obama for two terms.

There really is no hope for this lot.

 

[blackhawk]

Not a democrat nor a member of LULAC could be counted on to look into the future and see how really bad it's going to get in Obama's second term. They have to be not only shown but actually have their noses rubbed in it.
You'll hear America singing a different tune in about a year from now when the free goodies fail to materialize and Obama's spending hits critical mass. The pendulum ALWAYS swings back. I just hope there is something left to swing back to.

Gee, if you change the name from "Obama" to "Bush" in the reference to spending and you have what liberals were saying at the beginning of Bush's second term. And you know what, there really wasn't anything left to swing back to. When Obama took office the economy was in freefall, the auto industry was about to go out of business, and foreclosures had reached record numbers. Oh, and the entire world's banking system was in crisis.

Think where we would be now if there was some way W could have stolen another election.

What exactly did Bush do to triggor the crisis?

According to the left his being elected did it before that we never had a debt problem to hear them tell it the little fact that as a nation the only time we have been debt free was for a year under Andrew Jackson they seem to forget.

 

[thereisnospoon]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/12/20/rel18c-1.pdf

Wide sampling error though.

That's based on the narrative created by the MSM.
Most who respond to these polls have been led to believe that ANY lean to the right is "extreme".
Meanwhile, the political left has literally BOLTED farther left than ever before.

 

[RandallFlagg]

I see you came from the same time as me......you know, everything changes. That's the natural order of the universe. Unfortunately, as Yeats said so well:

Things fall apart; The center does not hold.


Things are quickly falling apart in this country. Very quickly.

Or, as T.S. Elliot stated:

This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends

Not with a bang, but a whimper

Thanks for your post. I had began to believe that I was the only person left alive who remembered "America"

God bless you!

Silly ass whining bastards. Not a brain between you. Older than both of you. Yes, I remember how it was in the late 40's, 50's, and 60's. We had people like Joe McCarthy and Westbrook Pegler. We had thieves and killers. But we also had only 150 million people in this nation then. More wide open spaces equals more freedom.

As for the world ending, Daveboy, you are a drama queen. Disappointed by yesterday?

I DID say warts and all. Nice thing was we didn't have to hear quite as much from people like you, either.

Yep, and there were many warts. As a Black man, I have a suspicion that I have seen more "warts" than most of you here. This country is in FAR worse condition than it was then.

But unlike you, and those like you, the majority of Americans "back then" tried to work together for the common good. I also notice that several of you "old-timers" constantly bring up Joe McCarthy. I remember Joe McCarthy as well. He was a paranoid, joke of a man who was concerned for his country.

Did he haul YOU before Congress? Or did you luck out and stay under the radar?

 

[musingsofacac]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/12/20/rel18c-1.pdf

Wide sampling error though.

CNN poll, ya thats just a little more reliable than a MSNBC poll. To be fair I will grant that Fox News polls are probably slanted a bit toward conservatives, its all in the audience. Now rasmussen or other more independant polling orgs, I give more credit.

It also is very much in how the questions are asked.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Who cares what Americans think at this point?! They showed how much they thought when they re-elected Obama.

The fact is most Americans did not think when they voted last month. They emoted.

 

[CandySlice]

Not a democrat nor a member of LULAC could be counted on to look into the future and see how really bad it's going to get in Obama's second term. They have to be not only shown but actually have their noses rubbed in it.
You'll hear America singing a different tune in about a year from now when the free goodies fail to materialize and Obama's spending hits critical mass. The pendulum ALWAYS swings back. I just hope there is something left to swing back to.

Gee, if you change the name from "Obama" to "Bush" in the reference to spending and you have what liberals were saying at the beginning of Bush's second term. And you know what, there really wasn't anything left to swing back to. When Obama took office the economy was in freefall, the auto industry was about to go out of business, and foreclosures had reached record numbers. Oh, and the entire world's banking system was in crisis.

Think where we would be now if there was some way W could have stolen another election.

You can thank Bill Clintons 106th lame duck congress for rescinding the Glass -Steagall act that allowed Gordon Gecko to gamble with George Bailey's money.
I never thought I'd see a time when ole Dubya looked good to me, but By God they managed it, somehow.