507,533 Signatures Collected As Of Today

[NoNukes]

Liberal temper tantrum. I didn't get my way, so I am going to use the recall option to bastardize the political system.


Petulant cry babies.

Kind of like the conservatives since the 2008 election.

 

[SAT2]

What Walker "did" was try to put an end to the long established practice of public sector unions backing the election of public officials who then turned around and paid them back by giving out pay raises and lavish benefit packages that put the State deep in debt. The reason that even a liberal as far left as FDR was against collective bargaining for government workers is that he understood exactly the abuse that would lead to. What Walker did that made him so unpopular with public sector union folks erased a 3 billion dollar deficit he inherited. THAT is going to make him popular with the rest of the taxpayers in Wisconsin.

Oh, the horror. Public sector workers have the temerity to back candidates who make sure that public sector workers have good salaries and benefits.

Liberal temper tantrum. I didn't get my way, so I am going to use the recall option to bastardize the political system.


Petulant cry babies.

Kind of like the conservatives since the 2008 election.

And the conservatives when Clinton had the nerve to win, when Davis had the nerve to win in California, and when Gore had the nerve to get more votes than Bush.

 

[Oldstyle]

By playing up the signatures that are inevitably disallowed on just about any petition, you're ignoring that those behind the recall are well on their way to getting enough signatures in a very short period of time.

The Tea Party governors-Walker, Scott, and Kasich-are not doing well as governors. They are plagued by public rejection of their policies and in the case of Walker and Scott, with problems with corruption. Tea Party politics in action-people don't like it.

Of course some people don't like "Tea Party politics", Sat...when you take away never ending pay raises and lavish benefit packages from the public sector union folks how did you expect them to react? They're unhappy. They tried their hardest to elect politicians who would keep that gravy train running and they failed. Wisconsin had run up a 3 billion dollar deficit because of policitians who gave them whatever they wanted and the voters of Wisconsin finally had enough and voted in a conservative to fix the problem. The public sector union folks aren't willing to admit defeat however...they immediately responded by first trying to shut down government so legislation couldn't be passed to take away all their goodies and then starting up a never ending series of recalls to try and get politicians back into power that will give them back their goodies.

I'm amused by your contention that Walker isn't doing well as a governor. In a two year span he's managed to erase that 3 billion dollar deficit, without raising taxes and without laying off teachers, firefighters or cops. Just imagine what he'd be able to do if he and the State wasn't having to spend so much time and money fighting back against a bunch of people who aren't happy with the outcome of a valid election?

 

[SAT2]

But funds from the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act — known as the stimulus act — also played a significant part in easing the state’s budget woes. More than $2 billion in stimulus funds were used to narrow the budget gap for the 2009-2011 cycle. That’s money the state will have to do without this time around, since those funds run out at the end of June, according to Robert Lang, the fiscal bureau director.

FactCheck.org : Wisconsin’s Baffling Budget Battle

Yet another GOP Governor talking about balancing the budget with his fiscal seriousness-when what he really did was use federal funds as a stop gap....

 

[SAT2]

Of course some people don't like "Tea Party politics", Sat...when you take away never ending pay raises and lavish benefit packages from the public sector union folks how did you expect them to react? They're unhappy. They tried their hardest to elect politicians who would keep that gravy train running and they failed. Wisconsin had run up a 3 billion dollar deficit because of policitians who gave them whatever they wanted and the voters of Wisconsin finally had enough and voted in a conservative to fix the problem. The public sector union folks aren't willing to admit defeat however...they immediately responded by first trying to shut down government so legislation couldn't be passed to take away all their goodies and then starting up a never ending series of recalls to try and get politicians back into power that will give them back their goodies.

I'm amused by your contention that Walker isn't doing well as a governor. In a two year span he's managed to erase that 3 billion dollar deficit, without raising taxes and without laying off teachers, firefighters or cops. Just imagine what he'd be able to do if he and the State wasn't having to spend so much time and money fighting back against a bunch of people who aren't happy with the outcome of a valid election?

My point is not that some people don't like Tea Party politics in action-my point is that they are unrealistic dreams.

Please see my previous post about how the Guv reconciled the budget-with federal funds, from the Recovery Act. Not by his mighty TP Mojo.

Please stop reciting "lavish benefit packages", and explain exactly what is so lavish about them. I have a health insurance and a pension plan. Is that "lavish"?

 

[Oldstyle]

What Walker "did" was try to put an end to the long established practice of public sector unions backing the election of public officials who then turned around and paid them back by giving out pay raises and lavish benefit packages that put the State deep in debt. The reason that even a liberal as far left as FDR was against collective bargaining for government workers is that he understood exactly the abuse that would lead to. What Walker did that made him so unpopular with public sector union folks erased a 3 billion dollar deficit he inherited. THAT is going to make him popular with the rest of the taxpayers in Wisconsin.

Oh, the horror. Public sector workers have the temerity to back candidates who make sure that public sector workers have good salaries and benefits.

Liberal temper tantrum. I didn't get my way, so I am going to use the recall option to bastardize the political system.

Petulant cry babies.

Kind of like the conservatives since the 2008 election.

And the conservatives when Clinton had the nerve to win, when Davis had the nerve to win in California, and when Gore had the nerve to get more votes than Bush.

Since when have public sector workers NOT had good salaries and benefits? They have great salaries and great benefits. They have them because the politicians they support with union money pay them back WITH those great salaries and benefits...all of which comes from taxes paid by a lot of people who DON'T have great salaries and benefits.

As for conservatives doing the same thing? I wasn't aware of a conservative challenge to Clinton's election. Care to demonstrate that there was? Gray Davis wasn't recalled immediately following his first being elected like the Democrats tried to do with every conservative they could in Wisconsin...he was recalled halfway through his second term in office, following six long years of failed policy that left California deep in debt. Gore and Bush? Gore lost the electoral college total. It happens to be the method we use to elect a President. The conservatives didn't ask for a recall vote...they simply asked that we play by the established rules...it was Democrats that challenged the outcome of that election...right up to the Supreme Court and it was Democrats that have whined about that outcome for the ten years since.

 

[Oldstyle]

Of course some people don't like "Tea Party politics", Sat...when you take away never ending pay raises and lavish benefit packages from the public sector union folks how did you expect them to react? They're unhappy. They tried their hardest to elect politicians who would keep that gravy train running and they failed. Wisconsin had run up a 3 billion dollar deficit because of policitians who gave them whatever they wanted and the voters of Wisconsin finally had enough and voted in a conservative to fix the problem. The public sector union folks aren't willing to admit defeat however...they immediately responded by first trying to shut down government so legislation couldn't be passed to take away all their goodies and then starting up a never ending series of recalls to try and get politicians back into power that will give them back their goodies.

I'm amused by your contention that Walker isn't doing well as a governor. In a two year span he's managed to erase that 3 billion dollar deficit, without raising taxes and without laying off teachers, firefighters or cops. Just imagine what he'd be able to do if he and the State wasn't having to spend so much time and money fighting back against a bunch of people who aren't happy with the outcome of a valid election?

My point is not that some people don't like Tea Party politics in action-my point is that they are unrealistic dreams.

Please see my previous post about how the Guv reconciled the budget-with federal funds, from the Recovery Act. Not by his mighty TP Mojo.

Please stop reciting "lavish benefit packages", and explain exactly what is so lavish about them. I have a health insurance and a pension plan. Is that "lavish"?

The Tea Party basically is calling for smaller government and responsible fiscal policy that deals with our out of control deficit. Why exactly is that an "unrealistic dream"? Because YOU believe in big government and don't care about huge deficits? I hate to burst your progressive bubble here, Sat but what the Tea Party wants is prudent and realistic...what YOU want is foolish and unrealistic.

 

[Full-Auto]

What Walker "did" was try to put an end to the long established practice of public sector unions backing the election of public officials who then turned around and paid them back by giving out pay raises and lavish benefit packages that put the State deep in debt. The reason that even a liberal as far left as FDR was against collective bargaining for government workers is that he understood exactly the abuse that would lead to. What Walker did that made him so unpopular with public sector union folks erased a 3 billion dollar deficit he inherited. THAT is going to make him popular with the rest of the taxpayers in Wisconsin.

Oh, the horror. Public sector workers have the temerity to back candidates who make sure that public sector workers have good salaries and benefits.

Liberal temper tantrum. I didn't get my way, so I am going to use the recall option to bastardize the political system.


Petulant cry babies.

Kind of like the conservatives since the 2008 election.

And the conservatives when Clinton had the nerve to win, when Davis had the nerve to win in California, and when Gore had the nerve to get more votes than Bush.

Umm Clown. Your side became fleebaggers for the third time.

What were you saying about tantrums? Ive got your number.

 

[SAT2]

Since when have public sector workers NOT had good salaries and benefits? They have great salaries and great benefits. They have them because the politicians they support with union money pay them back WITH those great salaries and benefits...all of which comes from taxes paid by a lot of people who DON'T have great salaries and benefits.

This is a bizarre attack. Public sector workers have good salaries and benefits. You're just restating your claim about "lavish" benefits, while avoiding justifying it.

If you don't like the present tax structure, as I can see by your comment about people who don't have great salaries and benefits, then you must vote Democratic.

As for conservatives doing the same thing? I wasn't aware of a conservative challenge to Clinton's election. Care to demonstrate that there was?

The endless investigations and the impeachment.

Gray Davis wasn't recalled immediately following his first being elected like the Democrats tried to do with every conservative they could in Wisconsin...he was recalled halfway through his second term in office, following six long years of failed policy that left California deep in debt. Gore and Bush? Gore lost the electoral college total. It happens to be the method we use to elect a President. The conservatives didn't ask for a recall vote...they simply asked that we play by the established rules...it was Democrats that challenged the outcome of that election...right up to the Supreme Court and it was Democrats that have whined about that outcome for the ten years since.

One of the big source of anger against Davis turned out to be Enron manipulation. Remember?

The reference to the 2000 election was the inability of the GOP to allow the process to continue.

Look at the complaints here about Walker's recall, and remember that Walker did not campaign on union busting-and the whining from the right over Walker's getting smacked back by the Wisconsin public.

You might also remember this:

Scott Walker Gets Punked By Journalist Pretending To Be David Koch

 

[Oldstyle]

Of course some people don't like "Tea Party politics", Sat...when you take away never ending pay raises and lavish benefit packages from the public sector union folks how did you expect them to react? They're unhappy. They tried their hardest to elect politicians who would keep that gravy train running and they failed. Wisconsin had run up a 3 billion dollar deficit because of policitians who gave them whatever they wanted and the voters of Wisconsin finally had enough and voted in a conservative to fix the problem. The public sector union folks aren't willing to admit defeat however...they immediately responded by first trying to shut down government so legislation couldn't be passed to take away all their goodies and then starting up a never ending series of recalls to try and get politicians back into power that will give them back their goodies.

I'm amused by your contention that Walker isn't doing well as a governor. In a two year span he's managed to erase that 3 billion dollar deficit, without raising taxes and without laying off teachers, firefighters or cops. Just imagine what he'd be able to do if he and the State wasn't having to spend so much time and money fighting back against a bunch of people who aren't happy with the outcome of a valid election?

My point is not that some people don't like Tea Party politics in action-my point is that they are unrealistic dreams.

Please see my previous post about how the Guv reconciled the budget-with federal funds, from the Recovery Act. Not by his mighty TP Mojo.

Please stop reciting "lavish benefit packages", and explain exactly what is so lavish about them. I have a health insurance and a pension plan. Is that "lavish"?

As for my "claim" that teachers in Wisconsin have lavish pay and benefit packages? If you took the time to read you own cite from FactCheck you'd see that the average salary and benefits for teachers in Milwaukee was $100,000. I think that fits the definition of "lavish"...don't you?

 

[Seawytch]

To give Scottie Walker his walking papers.

Out of a total of 94% of the 540,000 needed. Their internal goal is 740,000 or thereabouts.

It's a wrap folks...Scottie's TOAST!!!



Source: The Wisconsin Democratic Party

Scott Walker Recall Effort Collected 507,000 Signatures in a Month | Mother Jones

Was wondering how many of those sigs were real....

I've been reading a lot on this, and there is fraud big time, with duplicate names, etc, etc...
I'm afraid that state is hopeless if the people don't rise up against this.

Signing a petition more than once isn't fraud. Got any examples of your "etc, etc"?

 

[007]

To give Scottie Walker his walking papers.

Out of a total of 94% of the 540,000 needed. Their internal goal is 740,000 or thereabouts.

It's a wrap folks...Scottie's TOAST!!!



Source: The Wisconsin Democratic Party

Scott Walker Recall Effort Collected 507,000 Signatures in a Month | Mother Jones

Was wondering how many of those sigs were real....

I've been reading a lot on this, and there is fraud big time, with duplicate names, etc, etc...
I'm afraid that state is hopeless if the people don't rise up against this.

And they have to form a panel to go through every name, and it will cost the Wisconsin tax payers hundreds of thousands of dollars. But what do the union thugs and socialists who are behind this care? Hell they're the same ones who have been bleeding the state dry for decades anyway...

Mickey Mouse, Adolf Hitler Allowed On Wis. Recall Petitions - Wisconsin - Fox Nation

A recall election is FAR from a DONE DEAL.

 

[Oldstyle]

Since when have public sector workers NOT had good salaries and benefits? They have great salaries and great benefits. They have them because the politicians they support with union money pay them back WITH those great salaries and benefits...all of which comes from taxes paid by a lot of people who DON'T have great salaries and benefits.

This is a bizarre attack. Public sector workers have good salaries and benefits. You're just restating your claim about "lavish" benefits, while avoiding justifying it.

If you don't like the present tax structure, as I can see by your comment about people who don't have great salaries and benefits, then you must vote Democratic.

As for conservatives doing the same thing? I wasn't aware of a conservative challenge to Clinton's election. Care to demonstrate that there was?

The endless investigations and the impeachment.

Gray Davis wasn't recalled immediately following his first being elected like the Democrats tried to do with every conservative they could in Wisconsin...he was recalled halfway through his second term in office, following six long years of failed policy that left California deep in debt. Gore and Bush? Gore lost the electoral college total. It happens to be the method we use to elect a President. The conservatives didn't ask for a recall vote...they simply asked that we play by the established rules...it was Democrats that challenged the outcome of that election...right up to the Supreme Court and it was Democrats that have whined about that outcome for the ten years since.

One of the big source of anger against Davis turned out to be Enron manipulation. Remember?

The reference to the 2000 election was the inability of the GOP to allow the process to continue.

Look at the complaints here about Walker's recall, and remember that Walker did not campaign on union busting-and the whining from the right over Walker's getting smacked back by the Wisconsin public.

You might also remember this:

Scott Walker Gets Punked By Journalist Pretending To Be David Koch

Bill Clinton was impeached because he lied to Congress...it had nothing to do with his election.

Grey Davis was an awful governor in just about any way you want to look at it. My point was that conservatives didn't try to have him recalled immediately after he was first elected like Democrats have tried to do in Wisconsin...they did a recall SIX YEARS after his initial election.

As for 2000? I'm not sure what you're referring to when you say the Republicans weren't willing to let the "process" continue. The "process" continued right up until the Supreme Court ruling and that's about as far as the "process" CAN continue.

 

[SAT2]

The Tea Party basically is calling for smaller government and responsible fiscal policy that deals with our out of control deficit. Why exactly is that an "unrealistic dream"? Because YOU believe in big government and don't care about huge deficits? I hate to burst your progressive bubble here, Sat but what the Tea Party wants is prudent and realistic...what YOU want is foolish and unrealistic.

Ha! The Tea Party became energized about those deficits only when a Democrat moved into the WH. The unfunded Medicare Part D, the unfunded wars, the fiscally irresponsible Bush tax cuts-all of that got nothing more than grumbles from you. You reelected Bush, in spite of all of that.

What the Tea Party wants is a fantasy. They want us to rule the entire world with a tiny and weak federal government. They want us to rapidly contract government spending in a time of economic crisis. They want us to go back to an original USC-one that would not work for the modern world.

 

[007]

Was wondering how many of those sigs were real....

I've been reading a lot on this, and there is fraud big time, with duplicate names, etc, etc...
I'm afraid that state is hopeless if the people don't rise up against this.

Signing a petition more than once isn't fraud. Got any examples of your "etc, etc"?

No, it's CHEATING. You don't have a problem with that?

 

[Full-Auto]

The Tea Party basically is calling for smaller government and responsible fiscal policy that deals with our out of control deficit. Why exactly is that an "unrealistic dream"? Because YOU believe in big government and don't care about huge deficits? I hate to burst your progressive bubble here, Sat but what the Tea Party wants is prudent and realistic...what YOU want is foolish and unrealistic.

Ha! The Tea Party became energized about those deficits only when a Democrat moved into the WH. The unfunded Medicare Part D, the unfunded wars, the fiscally irresponsible Bush tax cuts-all of that got nothing more than grumbles from you. You reelected Bush, in spite of all of that.

What the Tea Party wants is a fantasy. They want us to rule the entire world with a tiny and weak federal government. They want us to rapidly contract government spending in a time of economic crisis. They want us to go back to an original USC-one that would not work for the modern world.

LOL ARE YOU LYING, OR JUST CRYING.

The tea party started under GW's watch. Thanks for playing.

 

[Seawytch]

Mickey Mouse’ OK for Walker recall

12/14/11 11:28 AM EST

Signatures of names like Mickey Mouse and Adolf Hitler are being considered valid on recall petitions of Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker as long as they are properly dated, a government board indicated Tuesday.

Suspicious signatures will be noted, but reviewers on the Government Accountability Board will be looking primarily to see whether the signatures are accompanied by a Wisconsin address and signed during the appropriate time, according to WISN12.

“We will flag them, but we will not strike them without challenge,” said board elections specialist David Buerger, when asked whether Mickey Mouse’s signature could count. He added that in previous petitions, Hitler’s name was only struck because the address was in Germany, not due to the name itself.

Read more: ?Mickey Mouse? OK for Walker recall - Tim Mak - POLITICO.com

If no signature matches any of the voters at the address, it won't be counted. You can't automatically strike names just because they look funny. You still have to look them up in the voter rolls. Believe me, there are people with some messed up names out there.

 

[Seawytch]

I've been reading a lot on this, and there is fraud big time, with duplicate names, etc, etc...
I'm afraid that state is hopeless if the people don't rise up against this.

Signing a petition more than once isn't fraud. Got any examples of your "etc, etc"?

No, it's CHEATING. You don't have a problem with that?

No, it's not. Only ONE of the signatures will be counted so, no, I don't have a problem with that.

Guess what I do all winter long? Signature check petitions. Signing a petition more than once happens ALL THE TIME. It's not fraud since only ONE of the signatures counts towards the petition. All others are rejected as duplicates.

 

[Claudette]

Well I expect the voters in WI will have the common sense to keep a Gov who has straightened out the mess left by the previous Dem Governors. I know I would and I'm a public sector worker.

After all thats what he was elected to do. This recall crap is just sour grapes from the Unions. Hope they lose millions on the effort.

Apparantly the only workers SAT is concerned with are those in the public sector that are unionized. The rest of the WI workers can just pay the taxes and don't count for shit.

 

[Seawytch]

Wisconsin is going to have a recall election. They will get the signatures needed to have an election. Now, whether or not Wanker gets recalled remains to be seen, but win or lose it will be a wake up call to Wanker... Get your shit together, stop gutting education and attacking the unions. Try WORKING WITH the unions like other states have done. Maybe if he does that NOW, he'll stand a better chance when the election rolls around.