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politicalchic is becoming shrill and hysterical because pc cannot refute the simple fact that the working and middle classes standard of living have suffered since the beginning of Reaganism, which will be become identified in our history as the pervsion of the American dream.
Correlation does not imply causation.politicalchic is becoming shrill and hysterical because pc cannot refute the simple fact that the working and middle classes standard of living have suffered since the beginning of Reaganism
Correlation does not imply causation.politicalchic is becoming shrill and hysterical because pc cannot refute the simple fact that the working and middle classes standard of living have suffered since the beginning of Reaganism
It is a fact that the blue-collar standard of living has fallen since the 1980s. However, you have demonstrated no link between Reagan's policies and this fall.
It is also a fact that the blue-collar standard of living has fallen since the 1990s. You cannot then conclude that Bill Clinton's policies hurt the lower classes, because correlation does not imply causation.
Correlation does not imply causation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
That's the million-dollar question.So at least we are in agreement that the standard of living for working people has fallen...what can we do about it?
the great diffrence betwee now and the nineten fifties is that the percentage of the family income that goes for housing and Utilitilites dwarfs what it was in the fifties.
Another point to ponder is that the family more often than not of 5 back then could much more easily get buy with just one wage earner and most did. the firsthouse my parents bought came with a payment equal to half of one weeks pay. The utilities cost the other half of that one weeks pay. Now days between rent or house payment and utilities cost much closer to half of one months pay for the average working family and because housing cost was removed from the COL figures during the Reagan administration,this was no longer being tracked.
Repeating "We all know the world is flat" does not make it true.Since this is not a debate forum, eagleseven can ask for evidence all he wants of that we all know to be true.
This is all horsecrap because this is the land of opportunity created by the freedom of any citizen to engage in commerce that they like. That is opportunity and not garnateed results which is a different concept so if you fail then its not America's fault it is your own. In this country you have the freedom to attempt to improve your life without the government interfering with those actions you wish to do so having the freedom to succeed is just saying you can take advantage of whatever opportunity you want.
Don't give me the stories that my father did this or my father did that because I bet they ran into the same whiners and losers in there life that couldn't earn five cents.
1. Americans enjoy more economic opportunity than people in other countries. Actually, some other advanced economies offer more opportunity than ours does. For example, recent research shows that in the Nordic countries and in the United Kingdom, children born into a lower-income family have a greater chance than those in the United States of forming a substantially higher-income family by the time they're adults. If you are born into a middle-class family in the United States, you have a roughly even chance of moving up or down the ladder by the time you are an adult. But the story for low-income Americans is quite different; going from rags to riches in a generation is rare. Instead, if you are born poor, you are likely to stay that way.
Just the way the left likes it.
Only 35 percent of children in a family in the bottom fifth of the income scale will achieve middle-class status or better by the time they are adults; in contrast,
76 percent of children from the top fifth will be middle-class or higher as adults.
Almost the numbers conservatives would like to see.
2. In the United States, each generation does better than the past one. As a result of economic growth, each generation can usually count on having a higher income, in inflation-adjusted dollars, than the previous one. For example, men born in the 1960s were earning more in the 1990s than their fathers' generation did at a similar age, and their families' incomes were higher as well. But that kind of steady progress appears to have stalled. Today, men in their 30s earn 12 percent less than the previous generation did at the same age.
might have something to do with choices we make now...
3. Immigrant workers and the offshoring of jobs drive poverty and inequality in the United States. Although immigration and trade are often blamed, a more important reason for our lack of progress against poverty and our growing inequality is a dramatic change in American family life. Almost 30 percent of children now live in single-parent families, up from 12 percent in 1968.
Screw family values. We need more abortion.
Since poverty rates in single-parent households are roughly five times as high as in two-parent households, this shift has helped keep the poverty rate up; it climbed to 13.2 percent last year. If we had the same fraction of single-parent families today as we had in 1970, the child poverty rate would probably be about 30 percent lower than it is today. Among women under age 30, more than half of all births now occur outside marriage, driving up poverty and leading to more intellectual, emotional and social problems among children.
Thank god we are turning away from traditional marriage....
4. If we want to increase opportunities for children, we should give their families more income.
Exactly. And the best way to do that is to confiscate money from the wealthy. We should all be equal.
Of course money is a factor in upward mobility, but it isn't the only one; it may not even be the most important. Our research shows that if you want to avoid poverty and join the middle class in the United States, you need to complete high school (at a minimum), work full time and marry before you have children. If you do all three, your chances of being poor fall from 12 percent to 2 percent, and your chances of joining the middle class or above rise from 56 to 74 percent. (We define middle class as having an income of at least $50,000 a year for a family of three.)
Bullshit. If you are poor it is because the foot of THE MAN is on your throat.
5. We can fund new programs to boost opportunity by cutting waste and abuse in the federal budget. Can we cut enough ineffective programs or impose enough new taxes to put better teachers in classrooms, expand child-care assistance for working families and provide more financial aid to disadvantaged students while reducing projected deficits?
Of course we can. the solution is always "Mo' money mo' money mo' money"
The answer is a resounding no. Certainly, we should eliminate fraud, waste and abuse; raise new revenues; and scrub the budget for additional savings. But these alone won't get the job done. Just three rapidly growing programs - Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid - along with interest on the debt threaten to crowd out all other spending in a few decades.
So lets make sure to exacerbate this with a public option....
Five Myths About Our Land of Opportunity - Brookings Institution
The best way to avoid poverty in America is to start out not poor.
Right. The best way has nothing to do with your decision-making process. WE ARE SLAVES TO THE NUMBERS....
Everything else sort of flows from that.
You'll start out with a better education leading to a still better post k-12 education, and thanks to your already established superior social status, you'll also have the contacts that give you the heads up about where the better paying billets are, too.
From my personal perspective, we don't have the opportunity we once did.
My father got a job with the phone company when he got out of High School. On a blue collar, linemans salary and with my mother staying home, he raised four kids, owned a three bedroom house on an acre of land, sent four kids to college and retired at 60 with no debt.
I was able to go to college and pay for most of it working minimum wage jobs ($2 an hour). After college, I was able to support myself on a $6 an hour job. I moved out of the house at 21, got an apartment, bought a car. But my standard of living, even with my wife working and only two kids is not much better than my father enjoyed.
My kids are 22 and 25 and work full time and live at home. College costs $30,000 a year and there is no way to afford that earning minimum wage.
Try a cheaper college. There are LOTS OF EM
Buying a house costs $300,000 and they are a long way from affording that.
I bought a new construction home- 2300 square feet- for 175k. In fact, I bought two of em.
College graduates come out with massive debt and poor job prospects. Even with two salaries, it takes a long time to get on your feet.
From my personal perspective, we don't have the opportunity we once did.
My father got a job with the phone company when he got out of High School. On a blue collar, linemans salary and with my mother staying home, he raised four kids, owned a three bedroom house on an acre of land, sent four kids to college and retired at 60 with no debt.
I was able to go to college and pay for most of it working minimum wage jobs ($2 an hour). After college, I was able to support myself on a $6 an hour job. I moved out of the house at 21, got an apartment, bought a car. But my standard of living, even with my wife working and only two kids is not much better than my father enjoyed.
My kids are 22 and 25 and work full time and live at home. College costs $30,000 a year and there is no way to afford that earning minimum wage. Buying a house costs $300,000 and they are a long way from affording that. College graduates come out with massive debt and poor job prospects. Even with two salaries, it takes a long time to get on your feet.
This is all horsecrap because this is the land of opportunity created by the freedom of any citizen to engage in commerce that they like. That is opportunity and not garnateed results which is a different concept so if you fail then its not America's fault it is your own. In this country you have the freedom to attempt to improve your life without the government interfering with those actions you wish to do so having the freedom to succeed is just saying you can take advantage of whatever opportunity you want.
Don't give me the stories that my father did this or my father did that because I bet they ran into the same whiners and losers in there life that couldn't earn five cents.
Someone is not paying attention
Rose covered glasses for everyone!
