4th Grade Science Test

The big bang theory is an unproven hypothethesis however it is taught as truth.

"Our ideas about the history of the universe are dominated by big bang theory. But its dominance rests more on funding decisions than on the scientific method, according to Eric J Lerner, mathematician Michael Ibison of Earthtech.org, and dozens of other scientists from around the world.
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An Open Letter to the Scientific Community
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Cosmology Statement.org (Published in New Scientist, May 22-28 issue, 2004, p. 20)
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The big bang today relies on a growing number of hypothetical entities, things that we have never observed-- inflation, dark matter and dark energy are the most prominent examples. Without them, there would be a fatal contradiction between the observations made by astronomers and the predictions of the big bang theory.
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In no other field of physics would this continual recourse to new hypothetical objects be accepted as a way of bridging the gap between theory and observation. It would, at the least, RAISE SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE VALIDITY OF THE UNDERLYING THEORY.
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But the big bang theory can't survive without these fudge factors. Without the hypothetical inflation field, the big bang does not predict the smooth, isotropic cosmic background radiation that is observed, because there would be no way for parts of the universe that are now more than a few degrees away in the sky to come to the same temperature and thus emit the same amount of microwave radiation.
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Without some kind of dark matter, unlike any that we have observed on Earth despite 20 years of experiments, big-bang theory makes contradictory predictions for the density of matter in the universe. Inflation requires a density 20 times larger than that implied by big bang nucleosynthesis, the theory's explanation of the origin of the light elements. And without dark energy, the theory predicts that the universe is only about 8 billion years old, which is billions of years younger than the age of many stars in our galaxy.
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What is more, the big bang theory can boast of no quantitative predictions that have subsequently been validated by observation. The successes claimed by the theory's supporters consist of its ability to retrospectively fit observations with a steadily increasing array of adjustable parameters, just as the old Earth-centred cosmology of Ptolemy needed layer upon layer of epicycles.
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Yet the big bang is not the only framework available for understanding the history of the universe. Plasma cosmology and the steady-state model both hypothesise an evolving universe without beginning or end. These and other alternative approaches can also explain the basic phenomena of the cosmos, including the abundances of light elements, the generation of large-scale structure, the cosmic background radiation, and how the redshift of far-away galaxies increases with distance. They have even predicted new phenomena that were subsequently observed, something the big bang has failed to do."

Big Bang Theory Busted By 33 Top Scientists

Never mind the failed attempt to deflect, the thread isn’t about the Big Bang Theory, it’s about Christian fundamentalists teaching school children that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time, find 33 top scientists who agree with that.


So now you believe you should control the curriculum in Christian schools, too?

Is that it?

Can you tell me what practical disadvantages there are to believing the earth is 6000 years old?

Does it really matter if a biologist believes he is studying the works of God instead of the works of evolution? Does the science change in any practical way? Do cells change, genes, methodologies?

What difference does it make?

Why does it bother you?
 
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The big band theory was created by a catholic priest. However don't forget the left likes to deny science with it's not politically correct. Start talking about how biology makes gay men more suspectible to HIV and that gay men, being 2% of the population but 61% of HIV infection,s and watch the left call facts hateful and bigoted. Because the liberal pansies are offended by reality.

The big band theory? Nice.
 
It's obviously not from a public school. It's from a private, "faith-based" school or charter school, using taxpayer money to promote this crap and warp our childrens' minds.

Prove that taxpayer money is being used by the school that supposedly administered this quiz.

This is way beyond taxpayer money. This bs is just blatantly wrong. Hopefully the kids taking this quiz will look back on it later in life and laugh their asses off at the idiots who were pushing this crap as fact.

What makes you think this is even real?
 
Would you have a problem with muslim fundamentalists teaching their beliefs?

You have to have faith in science just as you have to have faith in God.

I have neither because when I went to school Pluto was the furthest planet from the sun. :)


The big bang theory is an unproven hypothethesis however it is taught as truth.

"Our ideas about the history of the universe are dominated by big bang theory. But its dominance rests more on funding decisions than on the scientific method, according to Eric J Lerner, mathematician Michael Ibison of Earthtech.org, and dozens of other scientists from around the world.
*
An Open Letter to the Scientific Community
*
Cosmology Statement.org (Published in New Scientist, May 22-28 issue, 2004, p. 20)
*
The big bang today relies on a growing number of hypothetical entities, things that we have never observed-- inflation, dark matter and dark energy are the most prominent examples. Without them, there would be a fatal contradiction between the observations made by astronomers and the predictions of the big bang theory.
*
In no other field of physics would this continual recourse to new hypothetical objects be accepted as a way of bridging the gap between theory and observation. It would, at the least, RAISE SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE VALIDITY OF THE UNDERLYING THEORY.
*
But the big bang theory can't survive without these fudge factors. Without the hypothetical inflation field, the big bang does not predict the smooth, isotropic cosmic background radiation that is observed, because there would be no way for parts of the universe that are now more than a few degrees away in the sky to come to the same temperature and thus emit the same amount of microwave radiation.
*
Without some kind of dark matter, unlike any that we have observed on Earth despite 20 years of experiments, big-bang theory makes contradictory predictions for the density of matter in the universe. Inflation requires a density 20 times larger than that implied by big bang nucleosynthesis, the theory's explanation of the origin of the light elements. And without dark energy, the theory predicts that the universe is only about 8 billion years old, which is billions of years younger than the age of many stars in our galaxy.
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What is more, the big bang theory can boast of no quantitative predictions that have subsequently been validated by observation. The successes claimed by the theory's supporters consist of its ability to retrospectively fit observations with a steadily increasing array of adjustable parameters, just as the old Earth-centred cosmology of Ptolemy needed layer upon layer of epicycles.
*
Yet the big bang is not the only framework available for understanding the history of the universe. Plasma cosmology and the steady-state model both hypothesise an evolving universe without beginning or end. These and other alternative approaches can also explain the basic phenomena of the cosmos, including the abundances of light elements, the generation of large-scale structure, the cosmic background radiation, and how the redshift of far-away galaxies increases with distance. They have even predicted new phenomena that were subsequently observed, something the big bang has failed to do."

Big Bang Theory Busted By 33 Top Scientists

Never mind the failed attempt to deflect, the thread isn’t about the Big Bang Theory, it’s about Christian fundamentalists teaching school children that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time, find 33 top scientists who agree with that.
 
The good news is that this kind of ridiculous bullshit is just the kind of stuff that makes it easy to write religion off, and few kids in today's America can be sheltered from better information forever.
 
The big bang theory is an unproven hypothethesis however it is taught as truth.

"Our ideas about the history of the universe are dominated by big bang theory. But its dominance rests more on funding decisions than on the scientific method, according to Eric J Lerner, mathematician Michael Ibison of Earthtech.org, and dozens of other scientists from around the world.
*
An Open Letter to the Scientific Community
*
Cosmology Statement.org (Published in New Scientist, May 22-28 issue, 2004, p. 20)
*
The big bang today relies on a growing number of hypothetical entities, things that we have never observed-- inflation, dark matter and dark energy are the most prominent examples. Without them, there would be a fatal contradiction between the observations made by astronomers and the predictions of the big bang theory.
*
In no other field of physics would this continual recourse to new hypothetical objects be accepted as a way of bridging the gap between theory and observation. It would, at the least, RAISE SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE VALIDITY OF THE UNDERLYING THEORY.
*
But the big bang theory can't survive without these fudge factors. Without the hypothetical inflation field, the big bang does not predict the smooth, isotropic cosmic background radiation that is observed, because there would be no way for parts of the universe that are now more than a few degrees away in the sky to come to the same temperature and thus emit the same amount of microwave radiation.
*
Without some kind of dark matter, unlike any that we have observed on Earth despite 20 years of experiments, big-bang theory makes contradictory predictions for the density of matter in the universe. Inflation requires a density 20 times larger than that implied by big bang nucleosynthesis, the theory's explanation of the origin of the light elements. And without dark energy, the theory predicts that the universe is only about 8 billion years old, which is billions of years younger than the age of many stars in our galaxy.
*
What is more, the big bang theory can boast of no quantitative predictions that have subsequently been validated by observation. The successes claimed by the theory's supporters consist of its ability to retrospectively fit observations with a steadily increasing array of adjustable parameters, just as the old Earth-centred cosmology of Ptolemy needed layer upon layer of epicycles.
*
Yet the big bang is not the only framework available for understanding the history of the universe. Plasma cosmology and the steady-state model both hypothesise an evolving universe without beginning or end. These and other alternative approaches can also explain the basic phenomena of the cosmos, including the abundances of light elements, the generation of large-scale structure, the cosmic background radiation, and how the redshift of far-away galaxies increases with distance. They have even predicted new phenomena that were subsequently observed, something the big bang has failed to do."

Big Bang Theory Busted By 33 Top Scientists

Never mind the failed attempt to deflect, the thread isn’t about the Big Bang Theory, it’s about Christian fundamentalists teaching school children that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time, find 33 top scientists who agree with that.
When we teach Creationism, we are teaching children to accept as scientific fact what has been accepted on faith. This goes against the scientific method because in science, the initial hypothesis is always subject to change. With creationism the faith is never subject to change regardless of the evidence. Creationism start with a conclusion and seek evidence to support the conclusion. If the evidence does not support the conclusion then we disregard the evidence because we cannot reject what we accept on faith. It is just another means of defending the faith. It's not science and we shouldn't be using our tax dollars to teach it to our kids. If the churches want to teach this, that's ok with me, but not with our tax dollars.
 
The big bang theory is an unproven hypothethesis however it is taught as truth.

"Our ideas about the history of the universe are dominated by big bang theory. But its dominance rests more on funding decisions than on the scientific method, according to Eric J Lerner, mathematician Michael Ibison of Earthtech.org, and dozens of other scientists from around the world.
*
An Open Letter to the Scientific Community
*
Cosmology Statement.org (Published in New Scientist, May 22-28 issue, 2004, p. 20)
*
The big bang today relies on a growing number of hypothetical entities, things that we have never observed-- inflation, dark matter and dark energy are the most prominent examples. Without them, there would be a fatal contradiction between the observations made by astronomers and the predictions of the big bang theory.
*
In no other field of physics would this continual recourse to new hypothetical objects be accepted as a way of bridging the gap between theory and observation. It would, at the least, RAISE SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE VALIDITY OF THE UNDERLYING THEORY.
*
But the big bang theory can't survive without these fudge factors. Without the hypothetical inflation field, the big bang does not predict the smooth, isotropic cosmic background radiation that is observed, because there would be no way for parts of the universe that are now more than a few degrees away in the sky to come to the same temperature and thus emit the same amount of microwave radiation.
*
Without some kind of dark matter, unlike any that we have observed on Earth despite 20 years of experiments, big-bang theory makes contradictory predictions for the density of matter in the universe. Inflation requires a density 20 times larger than that implied by big bang nucleosynthesis, the theory's explanation of the origin of the light elements. And without dark energy, the theory predicts that the universe is only about 8 billion years old, which is billions of years younger than the age of many stars in our galaxy.
*
What is more, the big bang theory can boast of no quantitative predictions that have subsequently been validated by observation. The successes claimed by the theory's supporters consist of its ability to retrospectively fit observations with a steadily increasing array of adjustable parameters, just as the old Earth-centred cosmology of Ptolemy needed layer upon layer of epicycles.
*
Yet the big bang is not the only framework available for understanding the history of the universe. Plasma cosmology and the steady-state model both hypothesise an evolving universe without beginning or end. These and other alternative approaches can also explain the basic phenomena of the cosmos, including the abundances of light elements, the generation of large-scale structure, the cosmic background radiation, and how the redshift of far-away galaxies increases with distance. They have even predicted new phenomena that were subsequently observed, something the big bang has failed to do."

Big Bang Theory Busted By 33 Top Scientists

Never mind the failed attempt to deflect, the thread isn’t about the Big Bang Theory, it’s about Christian fundamentalists teaching school children that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time, find 33 top scientists who agree with that.
When we teach Creationism, we are teaching children to accept as scientific fact what has been accepted on faith. This goes against the scientific method because in science, the initial hypothesis is always subject to change. With creationism the faith is never subject to change regardless of the evidence. Creationism start with a conclusion and seek evidence to support the conclusion. If the evidence does not support the conclusion then we disregard the evidence because we cannot reject what we accept on faith. It is just another means of defending the faith. It's not science and we shouldn't be using our tax dollars to teach it to our kids. If the churches want to teach this, that's ok with me, but not with our tax dollars.

Those tax dollars are the tax dollars of fundamentalists, too. Do you think they should have to subsidize teachings abhorrent to their beliefs?
 
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Wait! You liberals say you love science and you claim we think science is bull shit. I say this test is bull shit taught by a bull shit teacher so I must hate science then.
It's obviously not from a public school. It's from a private, "faith-based" school or charter school, using taxpayer money to promote this crap and warp our childrens' minds.

Prove that taxpayer money is being used by the school that supposedly administered this quiz.

Did you miss the word 'or'? I went ahead and bolded it for you.


I can see this really bothers you.
 

What was the school and who was the teacher? How do you this wasnt just a Sunday School class where they have every right to teach that ?

They would have every right to teach that? :eek:

Would a Sunday School have every right to teach that all Rightwingers were evil and anti-American, and hammer that into them every week?
 
It's obviously not from a public school. It's from a private, "faith-based" school or charter school, using taxpayer money to promote this crap and warp our childrens' minds.

Prove that taxpayer money is being used by the school that supposedly administered this quiz.

Did you miss the word 'or'? I went ahead and bolded it for you.


I can see this really bothers you.

If taxpayer money were used for a quiz like this it would bother me. But it appears it's just more made up bullshit. What school administered this quiz? You said it was in South Carolina, how do you know?
 
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Perhaps for the benefit of the limp wristers on here we can show what they teach in muslim schools? Maybe liberals will insult that too? Will you?
It is appears that Muslims are much closer to convention scientific thought in regard to creation and evolution than Christians.

Muslims interpret the description of a "six day" creation as six distinct periods or eons. The length of these periods is not precisely defined, nor are the specific developments that took place during each period.

Allah is never "done" with His work, because the process of creation is ongoing. Each new child who is born, every seed that sprouts into a sapling, every new species that appears on earth, is part of the ongoing process of Allah's creation.


Creation and Evolution in Islam
 
Take a look at Science 4 for Christian Schools, an evangelical-written and -approved science textbook published in 1990. This copy came from The Country Church & Country Christian School in Molella, Oregon.
A similar text is used as a fifth grade science textbook in some Louisiana public schools, which teaches Biblical creationism alongside of evolution as the origin of life. We need to leave this type education to the churches and not our schools. America is falling behind other nations in education. We need better science education, not pseudo science.

I don't know if the test in this thread is fake or not, but with this type science education it certainly could be.




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11 Eye-Opening Highlights From a Creationist Science Textbook - 11 Points

Okay, I'm calling bullshit on this.

There is absolutely no mention of green cheese.
 
Perhaps for the benefit of the limp wristers on here we can show what they teach in muslim schools? Maybe liberals will insult that too? Will you?
It is appears that Muslims are much closer to convention scientific thought in regard to creation and evolution than Christians.

Muslims interpret the description of a "six day" creation as six distinct periods or eons. The length of these periods is not precisely defined, nor are the specific developments that took place during each period.

Allah is never "done" with His work, because the process of creation is ongoing. Each new child who is born, every seed that sprouts into a sapling, every new species that appears on earth, is part of the ongoing process of Allah's creation.


Creation and Evolution in Islam


Question: Doesn’t 2 Peter 3:8 indicate that the days of creation might not be literal, but thousands of years long?

Answer: 2 Peter 3:8–9 reads:

‘But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance
 

What was the school and who was the teacher? How do you this wasnt just a Sunday School class where they have every right to teach that ?

They would have every right to teach that? :eek:

Would a Sunday School have every right to teach that all Rightwingers were evil and anti-American, and hammer that into them every week?

OMG. Did freedom of religion bit the dust. So soon?

As to your second question one name comes to mind.........Jeremiah Wright.
 
The big bang theory is an unproven hypothethesis however it is taught as truth.

"Our ideas about the history of the universe are dominated by big bang theory. But its dominance rests more on funding decisions than on the scientific method, according to Eric J Lerner, mathematician Michael Ibison of Earthtech.org, and dozens of other scientists from around the world.
*
An Open Letter to the Scientific Community
*
Cosmology Statement.org (Published in New Scientist, May 22-28 issue, 2004, p. 20)
*
The big bang today relies on a growing number of hypothetical entities, things that we have never observed-- inflation, dark matter and dark energy are the most prominent examples. Without them, there would be a fatal contradiction between the observations made by astronomers and the predictions of the big bang theory.
*
In no other field of physics would this continual recourse to new hypothetical objects be accepted as a way of bridging the gap between theory and observation. It would, at the least, RAISE SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE VALIDITY OF THE UNDERLYING THEORY.
*
But the big bang theory can't survive without these fudge factors. Without the hypothetical inflation field, the big bang does not predict the smooth, isotropic cosmic background radiation that is observed, because there would be no way for parts of the universe that are now more than a few degrees away in the sky to come to the same temperature and thus emit the same amount of microwave radiation.
*
Without some kind of dark matter, unlike any that we have observed on Earth despite 20 years of experiments, big-bang theory makes contradictory predictions for the density of matter in the universe. Inflation requires a density 20 times larger than that implied by big bang nucleosynthesis, the theory's explanation of the origin of the light elements. And without dark energy, the theory predicts that the universe is only about 8 billion years old, which is billions of years younger than the age of many stars in our galaxy.
*
What is more, the big bang theory can boast of no quantitative predictions that have subsequently been validated by observation. The successes claimed by the theory's supporters consist of its ability to retrospectively fit observations with a steadily increasing array of adjustable parameters, just as the old Earth-centred cosmology of Ptolemy needed layer upon layer of epicycles.
*
Yet the big bang is not the only framework available for understanding the history of the universe. Plasma cosmology and the steady-state model both hypothesise an evolving universe without beginning or end. These and other alternative approaches can also explain the basic phenomena of the cosmos, including the abundances of light elements, the generation of large-scale structure, the cosmic background radiation, and how the redshift of far-away galaxies increases with distance. They have even predicted new phenomena that were subsequently observed, something the big bang has failed to do."

Big Bang Theory Busted By 33 Top Scientists

Never mind the failed attempt to deflect, the thread isn’t about the Big Bang Theory, it’s about Christian fundamentalists teaching school children that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time, find 33 top scientists who agree with that.
When we teach Creationism, we are teaching children to accept as scientific fact what has been accepted on faith. This goes against the scientific method because in science, the initial hypothesis is always subject to change. With creationism the faith is never subject to change regardless of the evidence. Creationism start with a conclusion and seek evidence to support the conclusion. If the evidence does not support the conclusion then we disregard the evidence because we cannot reject what we accept on faith. It is just another means of defending the faith. It's not science and we shouldn't be using our tax dollars to teach it to our kids. If the churches want to teach this, that's ok with me, but not with our tax dollars.

Tax dollars or not, it’s nonetheless disturbing that any ‘school’ would try to pass religion off as science.
 
The big band theory was created by a catholic priest. However don't forget the left likes to deny science with it's not politically correct. Start talking about how biology makes gay men more suspectible to HIV and that gay men, being 2% of the population but 61% of HIV infection,s and watch the left call facts hateful and bigoted. Because the liberal pansies are offended by reality.

The big band theory? Nice.
I have a theory that they are playing jazz.

But it's just a theory - I cannot prove it.


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