450 Peer-Reviewed Papers Supporting Skepticism of "Man-Made" Global Warming

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    Thanks to Ben for this:

    "Lets randomly check this list;

    OK, first paper; Energy and Environment. Yeah, great source there. NOT.

    2nd, 3rd, 5th, 12th, 15th, 20th, 22nd, and nos. 27, 28, 29, 32, 33, 38, 39, 42, 43, 45, 48, 49, 51, 55, 59, 60, 66, 67, 74, 77, 78, 79, 82, 83, 87, 88, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 113, 122, 125, 131, 132, 133, 138, 143, 144, 146, 146, 150, 151, 152, 156, 157, 158, on and on and on.

    It looks like almost half of these "papers" are from the same source? Why is that do you suppose?

    Wikipedia says;

    "The journal is not listed in the ISI's Journal Citation Reports indexing service for academic journals,[2] although it is included in Scopus, which lists it as a trade journal[3], with coverage from 1995.[4] Contributors have included Richard Tol, and Gary Yohe. The publication's ISSN is 0958-305X and OCLC is 21187549."

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    "The journal's peer-review process has at times been criticised for publishing substandard papers.[2][5] Roger A. Pielke (Jr), who published a paper on hurricane mitigation in the journal, said in a post answering a question on Nature's blog in May about peer-reviewed references and why he published in E&E: "...had we known then how that outlet would evolve beyond 1999 we certainly wouldn't have published there."[6]"

    In other words, its a journal for hacks who cannot publish their tripe about AGW in any other place.

    I think this list is debunked now... "​
     
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    Well you may have to debunk these and all the rest of the other journals with papers here:

    International Journal of Climatology
    Geophysical Research Letters
    Nature
    Climate Research
    Bulletin of Canadian Petroleum Geology
    Earth and Planetary Science Letters
    Norwegian Polar Institute Letters
    Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences
    Nature Geoscience
    Latvian Journal of Physics and Technical Sciences
    AAPG Bulletin
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    Surely you can do better than that pitiful attempt at assasination.
     
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    * Energy & Environment is a peer-reviewed interdisciplinary academic journal (ISSN: 0958-305X)
    - Indexed in Compendex, EBSCO, Environment Abstracts, Google Scholar, Ingenta, JournalSeek and SCOPUS
     
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    "Another journal which (quite oddly) also published the Soon et al study, “Energy and Environment”, is not actually a scientific journal at all but a social science journal. The editor, Sonja Boehmer-Christensen, in defending the publication of the Soon et al study, was quoted by science journalist Richard Monastersky in the Chronicle of Higher Education somewhat remarkably confessing “I’m following my political agenda — a bit, anyway. But isn’t that the right of the editor?”.

    RealClimate: Peer Review: A Necessary But Not Sufficient Condition
     
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    Energy and Environment ("E&E"), published since 1989, describes itself as "an interdisciplinary journal aimed at natural scientists, technologists and the international social science and policy communities covering the direct and indirect environmental impacts of energy acquisition, transport, production and use." Its editor since 1996 is Sonja Boehmer-Christiansen. The journal has an editorial advisory board of 20 members, including 11 professors and 5 other PhDs in 2008 and is published by Mulit-Science. The journal can be found at 39 libraries worldwide, at universities and the library of congress.[1]

    The journal is not listed in the ISI's Journal Citation Reports indexing service for academic journals,[2] although it is included in Scopus, which lists it as a trade journal[3], with coverage from 1995.[4] Contributors have included Richard Tol, and Gary Yohe. The publication's ISSN is 0958-305X and OCLC is 21187549.

    The sources that grade journals at to their scientific credentials have found that one wanting. They list it as a trade journal, not a peer reviewed journal.
     
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    Well, I surely don't have time to look at all of the sources that were posted. Discounting over half, as they are not from an accredited peer reviewed journal, those from Energy and Environment, I looked at one that was from a peer reviewed journal.

    Guess what, it did not deny AGW at all. In fact, what it stated was that there was another effect superimposed on anthropogenic warming. Another bunch of dips that cannot accurately read a scientific paper.


    http://www.nosams.whoi.edu/PDFs/papers/tsonis-grl_newtheoryforclimateshifts.pdf

    Conclusions
    [13] The above observational and modeling results suggest
    the following intrinsic mechanism of the climate
    system leading to major climate shifts. First, the major
    climate modes tend to synchronize at some coupling
    strength. When this synchronous state is followed by an
    increase in the coupling strength, the network’s synchronous
    state is destroyed and after that climate emerges in a
    new state. The whole event marks a significant shift in
    climate. It is interesting to speculate on the climate shift
    after the 1970s event. The standard explanation for the post
    1970s warming is that the radiative effect of greenhouse
    gases overcame shortwave reflection effects due to aerosols
    [Mann and Emanuel, 2006]. However, comparison of the
    2035 event in the 21st century simulation and the 1910s eventin the observations with this event, suggests an alternative
    hypothesis, namely that the climate shifted after the 1970s
    event to a different state of a warmer climate, which may be
    superimposed on an anthropogenic warming trend.
     
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    Surely you can bother to read a few of the papers and see that whomever did the listing of these articles never bothered to read them.
     
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    hmmmm....This is not another journal.

    Why not actually look at the papers reather than focus on trying to discredit.

    You cannot discredit the majority of them and other than opinion have not discredited any others.
     
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    So Rocks..You are telling me that the summation of 450 + 10 papers are included in your itty bitty paragraph. How trite, cheap and typical of you.

    You wouldn't by any chance be a political hack, heh? If it smells like donkey shit. :doubt: Or as another poster so eloquently states. "Just sayin"
     
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