45 years for Mel Hall

[elvis]

Ex MLB Player Gets 45 Years in Prison
Posted Jun 16, 2009 9:06 PM By SCHUYLER DIXON(AP)

FORT WORTH, Texas (June 16) -- Former major league outfielder Mel Hall was sentenced to 45 years in prison Wednesday after being convicted of raping a 12-year-old girl and sexually abusing or inappropriately touching three girls.

[excerpt]
Jurors reached the verdict on the punishment after about an hour of deliberating. They took about 90 minutes Tuesday to convict Hall on three counts of aggravated sexual assault of a child and two counts of indecency with a child. He must serve about 22 1/2 years in prison before becoming eligible for parole.
After the verdict was announced, prosecutor Kim D’Avignon read a brief statement on behalf of the 12-year-old victim and other of Hall’s accusers.
"We believe that the verdict does on some level show that the jury understood," D'Avignon said. "They looked in these girls’ eyes and said this is worth 40 years and we agree with them."
The defense had argued in the sentencing phase of the trial that Hall was a good man who mentored a lot of athletes and had a lot of good still to do.
"For all the good this man has done in his life, it seems like this was an excessive verdict," defense attorney Brady Wyatt said after the verdict.
Mell Hall Convicted In Sex Case -- Mlb FanHouse

I remember when Mel Hall played for the Cubs. We traded him (along with Joe Carter) for Rick Sutcliffe in 1984.

 

[DamnYankee]

but face it 99% of the time it's men

It is rare among females

Breaking the last taboo: child sexual abuse by female perpetrators

I suspect that the reason is that males have more issues with power and control

Why?

Why do they?

SpeakOutLoud about psychological abuse — See the power and control, free your mind, open your heart, live fully

Power and control — SpeakOutLoud about psychological abuse

 

[DamnYankee]

Ex MLB Player Gets 45 Years in Prison
Posted Jun 16, 2009 9:06 PM By SCHUYLER DIXON(AP)

FORT WORTH, Texas (June 16) -- Former major league outfielder Mel Hall was sentenced to 45 years in prison Wednesday after being convicted of raping a 12-year-old girl and sexually abusing or inappropriately touching three girls.

[excerpt]
Jurors reached the verdict on the punishment after about an hour of deliberating. They took about 90 minutes Tuesday to convict Hall on three counts of aggravated sexual assault of a child and two counts of indecency with a child. He must serve about 22 1/2 years in prison before becoming eligible for parole.
After the verdict was announced, prosecutor Kim D’Avignon read a brief statement on behalf of the 12-year-old victim and other of Hall’s accusers.
"We believe that the verdict does on some level show that the jury understood," D'Avignon said. "They looked in these girls’ eyes and said this is worth 40 years and we agree with them."
The defense had argued in the sentencing phase of the trial that Hall was a good man who mentored a lot of athletes and had a lot of good still to do.
"For all the good this man has done in his life, it seems like this was an excessive verdict," defense attorney Brady Wyatt said after the verdict.
Mell Hall Convicted In Sex Case -- Mlb FanHouse

I remember when Mel Hall played for the Cubs. We traded him (along with Joe Carter) for Rick Sutcliffe in 1984.

And not a bad trade....

 

[editec]

He RAPED a 12 year old?

Or did he SEDUCE a 12 year old?

45 years for seduction sounds about right.

But for RAPE?

Death seems like a better sentence.

I really do object to calling anything but rape, rape.

NOt because I want to mitigate the evil of seducing children, but because rape is a particulaly evil event and we need to have a word that describes that evil crime specifically.

 

[DamnYankee]

He RAPED a 12 year old?

Or did he SEDUCE a 12 year old?

45 years for seduction sounds about right.

But for RAPE?

Death seems like a better sentence.

I really do object to calling anything but rape, rape.

NOt because I want to mitigate the evil of seducing children, but because rape is a particulaly evil event and we need to have a word that describes that evil crime specifically.

Hmmm.... The Cynic has a very strange idea of the concept of seduction.... The first being that grown women are seduced, not children who are looking to the adult in a trusting manner.

During the trial this week, witnesses testified that Hall was impressed with the 12-year-old girl’s talent and wanted to start a basketball team. The woman testified that Hall exposed himself to her and her younger brother at home, when their parents were away. The boy testified that he thought they were playing a game and never told his parents.
"I trusted him," the woman testified. "I honestly had no idea anything was inappropriate at the time. I looked up to him. I just thought this is how normal people act."
Hall’s interaction with the girl progressed to inappropriate touching and him showing her how to perform oral sex, she testified. She said he also showed her pornographic movies at an apartment Hall shared with his girlfriend and their infant son.
The two women who testified Tuesday told similar stories of how he won their parents’ trust and then charmed the young girls.
One said she was 15 and Hall was in his first season with the New York Yankees when the abuse began in 1989. The other testified that she was a 14-year-old basketball teammate of the 12-year-old victim when she was raped in 1999. Hall has been charged in that case.

 

[dilloduck]

It is rare among females

Breaking the last taboo: child sexual abuse by female perpetrators

I suspect that the reason is that males have more issues with power and control

Why?

Why do they?

SpeakOutLoud about psychological abuse — See the power and control, free your mind, open your heart, live fully

Power and control — SpeakOutLoud about psychological abuse

I asked you first

 

[DamnYankee]

Why?

Why do they?

SpeakOutLoud about psychological abuse — See the power and control, free your mind, open your heart, live fully

Power and control — SpeakOutLoud about psychological abuse

I asked you first

Just clarifying that I had your question correct....

 

[dilloduck]

Why do they?

SpeakOutLoud about psychological abuse — See the power and control, free your mind, open your heart, live fully

Power and control — SpeakOutLoud about psychological abuse

I asked you first

Just clarifying that I had your question correct....

anyway----we gotta figure out why men are such sickos and women are nice.

 

[DamnYankee]

I asked you first

Just clarifying that I had your question correct....

anyway----we gotta figure out why men are such sickos and women are nice.

Well, you can read the links for the first why. The second might take some time to explain.....

 

[dilloduck]

Just clarifying that I had your question correct....

anyway----we gotta figure out why men are such sickos and women are nice.

Well, you can read the links for the first why. The second might take some time to explain.....

Read before I had enough coffee ??? NOT

 

[DamnYankee]

anyway----we gotta figure out why men are such sickos and women are nice.

Well, you can read the links for the first why. The second might take some time to explain.....

Read before I had enough coffee ??? NOT

Consider it a homework assignment.... Or a bedtime project.... <chuckle>

 

[dilloduck]

Well, you can read the links for the first why. The second might take some time to explain.....

Read before I had enough coffee ??? NOT

Consider it a homework assignment.... Or a bedtime project.... <chuckle>

oh just castrate all the men except for the ones you need and forget about it. The world will be a safer place.

 

[DamnYankee]

Read before I had enough coffee ??? NOT

Consider it a homework assignment.... Or a bedtime project.... <chuckle>

oh just castrate all the men except for the ones you need and forget about it. The world will be a safer place.

Hmmm.... Even some I thought might be useful seem to have been castrated....

 

[dilloduck]

Consider it a homework assignment.... Or a bedtime project.... <chuckle>

oh just castrate all the men except for the ones you need and forget about it. The world will be a safer place.

Hmmm.... Even some I thought might be useful seem to have been castrated....

keep trying there Biz

 

[editec]

He RAPED a 12 year old?

Or did he SEDUCE a 12 year old?

45 years for seduction sounds about right.

But for RAPE?

Death seems like a better sentence.

I really do object to calling anything but rape, rape.

NOt because I want to mitigate the evil of seducing children, but because rape is a particulaly evil event and we need to have a word that describes that evil crime specifically.

Hmmm.... The Cynic has a very strange idea of the concept of seduction.... The first being that grown women are seduced, not children who are looking to the adult in a trusting manner.

Oh poppycock!

Forcible violation is forcible violation. The word for that crime is RAPE.

It is a mistake to call two different crimes by the same word.

 

[elvis]

He RAPED a 12 year old?

Or did he SEDUCE a 12 year old?

45 years for seduction sounds about right.

But for RAPE?

Death seems like a better sentence.

I really do object to calling anything but rape, rape.

NOt because I want to mitigate the evil of seducing children, but because rape is a particulaly evil event and we need to have a word that describes that evil crime specifically.

agnapostate has a new fan and his name is editec.

 

[editec]

He RAPED a 12 year old?

Or did he SEDUCE a 12 year old?

45 years for seduction sounds about right.

But for RAPE?

Death seems like a better sentence.

I really do object to calling anything but rape, rape.

NOt because I want to mitigate the evil of seducing children, but because rape is a particulaly evil event and we need to have a word that describes that evil crime specifically.

agnapostate has a new fan and his name is editec.

Are you daft?

Clearly you must be.

 

[Xenophon]

Never liked Hall when he played for NY, glad he's gone for good.

 

[BaltimoreBob]

Now how about we get all the Americans
who allowed the Rape and Murder of guys under 21 in Vietnam.

Because this guy got 40 years just for touching some girls.

Baltimore Bob

 

[DamnYankee]

He RAPED a 12 year old?

Or did he SEDUCE a 12 year old?

45 years for seduction sounds about right.

But for RAPE?

Death seems like a better sentence.

I really do object to calling anything but rape, rape.

NOt because I want to mitigate the evil of seducing children, but because rape is a particulaly evil event and we need to have a word that describes that evil crime specifically.

Hmmm.... The Cynic has a very strange idea of the concept of seduction.... The first being that grown women are seduced, not children who are looking to the adult in a trusting manner.

Oh poppycock!

Forcible violation is forcible violation. The word for that crime is RAPE.

It is a mistake to call two different crimes by the same word.

Seduction is deliberate, but it involves enticing, therefore it is consensual and not rape. If you'd care to argue the point, by all means. Would you be more comfortable if I cried "rape" upon being seduced?