40 years, a trillion dollars, zero results.

[Cuyo]

Cigarettes are legal and yet there is a huge black market in bootlegged cigarettes. If you impose the same tax on marijuana why wouldn't you have the same result? Probably worse, in fact as there are no established brands.

Huge black market? compared to legal sales? Bullshit, but you call for executing people so who the fuck cares what a dumb shit troll like yourself has to say.
I'll remember than next time you call Obama a marxist, and here you are claiming we should kill people for drug use.

Translation: You are right and the only thing I can do is call you names.

Thanks for clearing that up, Stinky.

Can you possibly be as dumb as you are?

 

[JWBooth]

what gives the government the power to tell people what they can or cannot put into their body?

Commerce Clause.
Any questions?

The totalitarian's dream and all purpose excuse for expansive government involvement in any endeavour that pleases them at the moment.

 

[blu]

once again rabbi runs away from a thread. we should keep quoting our posts to him until he answers for once.

 

[tommywho70x]

once again rabbi runs away from a thread. we should keep quoting our posts to him until he answers for once.

turkey needs a new abuser name.

his whole presentation is an insult to both kinds of rabbis --- the ones that lead hebrew congregations and the ones who act as mentors to young police officers and military personnel on upwardly mobile career tracks.

 

[Political Junky]

First conviction=rehab
Second conviction=death penalty.
Problems solved.

Any questions?

what gives the government the power to tell people what they can or cannot put into their body?

Commerce Clause.
Any questions?

Do you support government limiting smoking and harmful foods, as well?

 

[The Rabbi]

what gives the government the power to tell people what they can or cannot put into their body?

Commerce Clause.
Any questions?

Do you support government limiting smoking and harmful foods, as well?

It isn't a question of what I support, dumbshit. It's what the Supreme Court has said on the subject. Your opinion does not trump the Supreme Court. Sorry.

 

[blu]

Commerce Clause.
Any questions?

Do you support government limiting smoking and harmful foods, as well?

It isn't a question of what I support, dumbshit. It's what the Supreme Court has said on the subject. Your opinion does not trump the Supreme Court. Sorry.

going to answer any posts that made you look retarded or just hide as usual?

 

[The Rabbi]

Do you support government limiting smoking and harmful foods, as well?

It isn't a question of what I support, dumbshit. It's what the Supreme Court has said on the subject. Your opinion does not trump the Supreme Court. Sorry.

going to answer any posts that made you look retarded or just hide as usual?

The only posts completely validated what I wrote. You just look retarded.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Commerce Clause.
Any questions?

Do you support government limiting smoking and harmful foods, as well?

It isn't a question of what I support, dumbshit. It's what the Supreme Court has said on the subject. Your opinion does not trump the Supreme Court. Sorry.

At last, Rab, at last. Thank you. Understand your comment applies to you as well.

 

[sweetie]

...hey, you stoooooopid fuck republican conservatives and etc. assorted drug warrior pricks, where in the constitution does it authorize your stinking federal drug war?..(this should shut the stoooooooopid fucks up...but it won't..)

...perhaps you stooooooooooopid fuck drug warriors might consider that in a society with any semblance of 'freedom,' ('adult') individuals will be free to choose and responsible for anything they ingest..(you'd think this would be simple common sense...but not with these stooooopid fuck 'drug warriors')

(..and always remember, you stoooooooooooopid republicrat fucks, 'freedom' and 'liberty' don't mean a goddamned thing without the word 'individual' [understood] preceding them!..)

..stfu, you monstrously stooooooooooooopid drug warriors...

...the rest of you, have a good day!..

 

[The Rabbi]

...hey, you stoooooopid fuck republican conservatives and etc. assorted drug warrior pricks, where in the constitution does it authorize your stinking federal drug war?..(this should shut the stoooooooopid fucks up...but it won't..)

...perhaps you stooooooooooopid fuck drug warriors might consider that in a society with any semblance of 'freedom,' ('adult') individuals will be free to chose and responsible for anything they ingest..(you'd think this would be simple common sense...but not with these stooooopid fuck 'drug warriors')

(..and always remember, you stoooooooooooopid republicrat fucks, 'freedom' and 'liberty' don't mean a goddamned thing without the word 'individual' [understood] preceding them!..)

..stfu, you monstrously stooooooooooooopid drug warriors...

...the rest of you, have a good day!..

Nurse!

 

[sweetie]

...rabbi, you stoooopid republican conservative cheerleading fuck, and the rest of you stinking conservative numbskulls, i recall hearing a lot of you apparently stooopid fucks foaming about your love and/or respect for the constitution..could just one of you apparent republicrat fools please point out to me that/those article(s) section(s) and clause(s) in the constitution that authorize/legitimize your hideous, goddamned fool federal 'drug war?!'

(hint: you stooooooopid fuck drug warriors' best move now is to stfu!..)

...the rest of you, have a good day!

 

[editec]

Troll=Anyone who has better arguments than Dr Gregg.
Thanks for clearing that one up.

Still waiting to hear why marijuana will not be subject to black market smuggling to avoid high taxes, as is done now with cigarettes.
Watiing

Still waiting for a rational, intelligent defense of the notion that Communist China is a model for emulation.

Prior to the revolution they had a drug problem that undermined their society and rendered their leadership at all levels inept walking zombies. This is what is being proposed for this country.
The Communists came in and solved that problem. Now China is a world leader in their economy and a budding super-power.
Is that enough for you?

Specious reasoning

China couldn't feed itself for decades after they'd imposed draconian measures against the drug addicted.

One event really had next to nothing to do with the other.

China's newfound wealth can be explained in two words

FREE TRADE.

 

[The Rabbi]

Still waiting for a rational, intelligent defense of the notion that Communist China is a model for emulation.

Prior to the revolution they had a drug problem that undermined their society and rendered their leadership at all levels inept walking zombies. This is what is being proposed for this country.
The Communists came in and solved that problem. Now China is a world leader in their economy and a budding super-power.
Is that enough for you?

Specious reasoning

China couldn't feed itself for decades after they'd imposed draconian measures against the drug addicted.

One event really had next to nothing to do with the other.

China's newfound wealth can be explained in two words

FREE TRADE.

There is nothing specious about comparing a society saddled with incompetent drug addicts in charge of their military and political apparatus with a society that does not have that. Of course there are many other factors at work. But the fact is that 1) they had a bad drug problem and found a solution that didnt involve making it worse, and 2) that the quality of leadership in all areas of society improved in part because of their drug eradication efforts.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Decriminalization and regulation.

 

[The Rabbi]

Decriminalization and regulation.

Stupidity is already legal. That's why you're allowed to post here.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Decriminalization and regulation.

Stupidity is already legal. That's why you're allowed to post here.

You are not making a case, Rab. You are just yelling. Since we are not going to execute 99.9999% of drug criminals, and since the current prison and rehabilitation efforts are counterproductive, then the logical and productive path remains decriminalization, regulation, and taxation.

Why do you think that will not work?

 

[tommywho70x]

Decriminalization and regulation.

Stupidity is already legal. That's why you're allowed to post here.

You are not making a case, Rab. You are just yelling. Since we are not going to execute 99.9999% of drug criminals, and since the current prison and rehabilitation efforts are counterproductive, then the logical and productive path remains decriminalization, regulation, and taxation.

Why do you think that will not work?

until several hundred rogues who are entrenched in our government are tried for treason, murder and various other crimes against humanity and nature, there will be no significant change in the status quo.

there is simply too much money being made in the black market, law enforcement and the penal system for any laws to be changed so drastically.

 

[The Rabbi]

Decriminalization and regulation.

Stupidity is already legal. That's why you're allowed to post here.

You are not making a case, Rab. You are just yelling. Since we are not going to execute 99.9999% of drug criminals, and since the current prison and rehabilitation efforts are counterproductive, then the logical and productive path remains decriminalization, regulation, and taxation.

Why do you think that will not work?

The biggest argument against it is that you are propounding it. I call it the Jake Factor. It states that anything Jake Starkey is for must be bad.

You state decriminalization, regulation and taxation are the logical path. I ask, the logical path to what? If the goal is to produce a drug-addled society filled with people who are chemical dependent then you are right: that is the right way to go.
Cigarettes are heavily regulated, decriminalized (for now) and taxed. How much illegal trade is there in cigarettes? Tons, is the answer. How much underage smoking is there? Tons, is the answer. Who are the fastest growing number of smokers? Young people, is the answer.
Why do you suppose drugs, which are ten times easier to produce, will be different than cigarettes?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Traitors? Who? You are the decider on this? Marijuana decriminalization has been advancing over the years. Blacks and whites can intermarry. We let sillies like Rabbi speak freely. Decriminalization, taxation, and regulation will happen. As it did for ending prohibition.