? 4 those of all faiths ....why do you think god allows...

[SmarterThanHick]

yeah that would be nice. tell me: what will we be taking into this "another level" you mentioned? Our bodies? Our money? Political affiliations?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Sin, man's fall (corporately), God's redemption (individually), man restored (individually), then comes the end of time and eternal life for those who chose to be saved.

What was this individual's child's sin? What about children who suffer and die before being given a chance to learn of Jesus and make an informed choice? I guess that they go to hell.

http://orugallu.net/vinDu/images/misc/sudanchild1.jpg

i was always told that they and handicapped people are given that ticket to "heaven" automatically....

 

[Harry Dresden]

God gave us all, his creation FREE WILL. What we do on this Earth is OUR doing, and OUR doing alone.

God allows us domain over this world, watching how we act, remember him, or not, live for him, or not, choose good, or evil, etc.

God will intervene eventually, sooner rather than later, to find out how, read REVELATIONS.

so you're saying it's always our free will alone without any interference.

except when god intervenes.

which you have no way of telling

Revelations says when he does finally intervene....you will know about it....

 

[jillian]

god gave us all, his creation free will. What we do on this earth is our doing, and our doing alone.

god allows us domain over this world, watching how we act, remember him, or not, live for him, or not, choose good, or evil, etc.

God will intervene eventually, sooner rather than later, to find out how, read revelations.

so you're saying it's always our free will alone without any interference.

Except when god intervenes.

Which you have no way of telling

Again, read revelations.

revelations is specific to your own belief system. we don't even believe it's part of a legitimate bible. in fact, many people don't believe it is even part of the new testament but was an add-on.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Ya talkin about King James' Gawd ?
The entity in the story that kills everything on earth but a handful of Jews and a bunch of animals on a ship .
He loves you !

Praise Allah
I wonder if I can trade in the seventy two virgins for a couple retired porn starlets ?

dont worry about it dipshit....not everyone thinks your an asshole....from what i hear, Jesus still loves ya...

 

[elvis]

Ya talkin about King James' Gawd ?
The entity in the story that kills everything on earth but a handful of Jews and a bunch of animals on a ship .
He loves you !

Praise Allah
I wonder if I can trade in the seventy two virgins for a couple retired porn starlets ?

dont worry about it dipshit....not everyone thinks your an asshole....from what i hear, Jesus still loves ya...

He does.

 

[Harry Dresden]

When the those who are saved are taken unto God and Satan's reign on earth has ended, temptation, greed, and other human desires will cease to exist and we will exist on another level, not as mortals but immortals. No one can say what or how that existence will be like except that it will be wonderful. Except for those souls that Satan took into hell with him. For them it is everlasting pain, suffering, torment ...

that cant be true.....if it is,how come it wasnt that way for Lucifer and his followers?....they live on a MUCH higer plane then we do,AND knew god exists AND they knew that trying to unsurp him was not a very bright idea......and yet....

 

[Harry Dresden]

revelations is specific to your own belief system. we don't even believe it's part of a legitimate bible. in fact, many people don't believe it is even part of the new testament but was an add-on.

and it seems like whoever wrote it was doing Acid at the time.....

 

[jillian]

revelations is specific to your own belief system. we don't even believe it's part of a legitimate bible. in fact, many people don't believe it is even part of the new testament but was an add-on.

and it seems like whoever wrote it was doing Acid at the time.....

could be wabbit, could be...

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[elvis]

good song.

 

[strollingbones]

still no good answer...yes as a parent i would discipline my child but would i condemn them to an eternity of hell....no

as a parent, i would not allow them to be exploited in the name of anything...

these faith healers do nothing but that....be it oral roberts or benny hinn

i am not fond of the grahams either....why does billy graham live in a retreat but waco was a compound?

should the vatican ever be a rich country?

why are christians willing to render unto ceasar except for property taxes on churches and their properties?

 

[elvis]

still no good answer...yes as a parent i would discipline my child but would i condemn them to an eternity of hell....no

as a parent, i would not allow them to be exploited in the name of anything...

these faith healers do nothing but that....be it oral roberts or benny hinn

i am not fond of the grahams either....why does billy graham live in a retreat but waco was a compound?

should the vatican ever be a rich country?

why are christians willing to render unto ceasar except for property taxes on churches and their properties?

I'm no friend of the vatican. hinn is a phony. don't know much about oral roberts but his son basically embezzled money.

 

[jillian]

still no good answer...yes as a parent i would discipline my child but would i condemn them to an eternity of hell....no

as a parent, i would not allow them to be exploited in the name of anything...

these faith healers do nothing but that....be it oral roberts or benny hinn

i am not fond of the grahams either....why does billy graham live in a retreat but waco was a compound?

should the vatican ever be a rich country?

why are christians willing to render unto ceasar except for property taxes on churches and their properties?

judaism doesn't believe in hell. i agree... no G-d would condemn his children to an eternity in flames.

and just my own opinion on the difference between a 'retreat' and a 'compound' is that graham's followers can leave the 'retreat' as they wish. koresh's in waco couldn't. the other is that i always say the difference between a cult and a religion is 2,000 years.

 

[Big Fitz]

still no good answer...yes as a parent i would discipline my child but would i condemn them to an eternity of hell....no

as a parent, i would not allow them to be exploited in the name of anything...

these faith healers do nothing but that....be it oral roberts or benny hinn

i am not fond of the grahams either....why does billy graham live in a retreat but waco was a compound?

should the vatican ever be a rich country?

why are christians willing to render unto ceasar except for property taxes on churches and their properties?

No good answers? Then I would question your standards or the question of what you're really looking for or the level of satisfaction you hope to find.

I've seen several, excellent answers... particularly mine... so what are you really looking for?

 

[Harry Dresden]

I'm no friend of the vatican. hinn is a phony. don't know much about oral roberts but his son basically embezzled money.

the Schulers out here with this Monstrosity the Crystal Cathedral are crooks too....they are crying now how broke they are.....the fucking Church alone is worth something like 30 million.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Ya talkin about King James' Gawd ?
The entity in the story that kills everything on earth but a handful of Jews and a bunch of animals on a ship .
He loves you !

Praise Allah
I wonder if I can trade in the seventy two virgins for a couple retired porn starlets ?

dont worry about it dipshit....not everyone thinks your an asshole....from what i hear, Jesus still loves ya...

He does.

thats what i am told El.....amazing aint it?.....

 

[Hawkins]

i have a question for those of all faiths and those who have none....

why would a just and righteous god allow what is going on to go on?

why would he allow his beloved children to hate each other over beliefs in him or her?

i see people like benny hinn (the faith healer) and wonder why god doesnt strike him dead? do you ever wonder about this?

Because God allows free-will to be fully execised here on earth.

 

[HUGGY]

i have a question for those of all faiths and those who have none....

why would a just and righteous god allow what is going on to go on?

why would he allow his beloved children to hate each other over beliefs in him or her?

i see people like benny hinn (the faith healer) and wonder why god doesnt strike him dead? do you ever wonder about this?

Because God allows free-will to be fully execised here on earth.

How convenient for an entity that does not exist to allow everything to just happen.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

i have a question for those of all faiths and those who have none....

why would a just and righteous god allow what is going on to go on?

why would he allow his beloved children to hate each other over beliefs in him or her?

i see people like benny hinn (the faith healer) and wonder why god doesnt strike him dead? do you ever wonder about this?

God made a deal with Satan. He would allow Satan time to prove man did not need God. That man could run his own affairs. Until that deal is up what happens on Earth is the result of Man's will and ignorance. Aided and abetted by Satan.

 

[Avatar4321]

God sees the end from the beginning. He realizes that this life is not the end of things. In fact, Christ came specifically to heal those who are hurt and conquor death. Wickedness will not stand.

But as all have sinned, the Lord in His mercy has provided a period where we might repent of our sins.

The problem is so few people seek the Lord. They don't ask Him questions. They dont learn from Him. In fact, they call it blasphemy to do so.

God is giving us the opportunity to become more like He is. He is giving us a chance to choose good and put off the evil.