3M to dump retirees from medical coverage

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    3M to dump retirees from medical coverage Hot Air

    Wow. AARP really did sell out their members. Wonder how much they will be profiting at the end of the day.
     
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    No company today wants to be in the healthcare business. It is a long term drain on their bottom line. More reason why we need a strong Government Option to cover the millions of workers who will be dumped by their employers in the coming years
     
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    ObamaCare needs to die and be replaced with something along the lines of the Whole Foods recommendations

    "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." —Margaret Thatcher

    With a projected $1.8 trillion deficit for 2009, several trillions more in deficits projected over the next decade, and with both Medicare and Social Security entitlement spending about to ratchet up several notches over the next 15 years as Baby Boomers become eligible for both, we are rapidly running out of other people's money. These deficits are simply not sustainable. They are either going to result in unprecedented new taxes and inflation, or they will bankrupt us.

    While we clearly need health-care reform, the last thing our country needs is a massive new health-care entitlement that will create hundreds of billions of dollars of new unfunded deficits and move us much closer to a government takeover of our health-care system. Instead, we should be trying to achieve reforms by moving in the opposite direction—toward less government control and more individual empowerment. Here are eight reforms that would greatly lower the cost of health care for everyone:

    • Remove the legal obstacles that slow the creation of high-deductible health insurance plans and health savings accounts (HSAs).

    • Equalize the tax laws so that employer-provided health insurance and individually owned health insurance have the same tax benefits. Now employer health insurance benefits are fully tax deductible, but individual health insurance is not. This is unfair.

    • Repeal all state laws which prevent insurance companies from competing across state lines. We should all have the legal right to purchase health insurance from any insurance company in any state and we should be able use that insurance wherever we live. Health insurance should be portable.

    • Repeal government mandates regarding what insurance companies must cover. These mandates have increased the cost of health insurance by billions of dollars. What is insured and what is not insured should be determined by individual customer preferences and not through special-interest lobbying.

    • Enact tort reform to end the ruinous lawsuits that force doctors to pay insurance costs of hundreds of thousands of dollars per year. These costs are passed back to us through much higher prices for health care.

    • Make costs transparent so that consumers understand what health-care treatments cost. How many people know the total cost of their last doctor's visit and how that total breaks down? What other goods or services do we buy without knowing how much they will cost us?

    • Enact Medicare reform. We need to face up to the actuarial fact that Medicare is heading towards bankruptcy and enact reforms that create greater patient empowerment, choice and responsibility.

    • Finally, revise tax forms to make it easier for individuals to make a voluntary, tax-deductible donation to help the millions of people who have no insurance and aren't covered by Medicare, Medicaid or the State Children's Health Insurance Program...

    Although Canada has a population smaller than California, 830,000 Canadians are currently waiting to be admitted to a hospital or to get treatment, according to a report last month in Investor's Business Daily. In England, the waiting list is 1.8 million...."

    Mr. Mackey is co-founder and CEO of Whole Foods Market Inc.

    John Mackey: The Whole Foods Alternative to ObamaCare - WSJ.com
     
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    it's already to late to back track, with big top 100 companies saying they can't afford health care thousands of smaller ones will view it also as a bottom line enhancer.

    Public option is all but here already, Obama will cram that one down in his second term.
     
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    what happened to you can keep your plan and doctors?
     
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    Where do we line up to get that apology from the folks who supported this plan...we warned 'em of exactly this.
     
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    link?


    And are you surprised? I am not. Hope and Change in the works.
     
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    I still remember when greater individual choice and empowerment were things conservatives professed to like. Seems like a very long time ago now.
     
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    That was unless that individual choice included getting your health insurance through the government...

    Unless you count Medicare, Medicade or Veterans Benefits
     
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    It was all a fucking lie. Next question?
     

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