$36 Trillion for Clean Energy, IEA reports.

[elektra]

Ms. Electra, you are so silly. kw is power. kw/hr is energy. 16.3 gw producing for even 1/4 of the time will produce more than 1.16 gw producing all the time. So the gw/hr of the solar and wind is greater than that of the Watts Bar 2 plant.

And, how much did Renewables produce last night, from 1:00 am to 2:00 am? As much as Watts Bar or less?

This is what Watt Bar produced, Estimated generation 17,975 GW·h

Now show us what renewables produced in the same period, last night.

 

[Old Rocks]

Texas' grid of tomorrow may include batteries

Sleek lithium-ion battery systems that resemble mainframe computers are poised to connect with Texas' electric grid for the first time this year as more companies seek to revolutionize the power market.

Renewable power advocates see energy storage technologies, such as industry-leading lithium-ion batteries, as the critical step toward making electricity from wind and solar more reliable and cost effective than fossil fuel or nuclear power.

North Carolina-based Duke Energy is converting a 36-megawatt battery system at its wind farm in West Texas from outdated lead-acid batteries to the more efficient lithium-ion variety, favored for electric vehicles.


Likewise, Virginia-based AES Corp. is teaming up with Texas transmission company Oncor to construct a 20-megawatt, lithium-ion battery project in Dallas to help maintain a steady flow of electricity as demand rises and falls. One megawatt can power about 200 typical Houston resi-dences during peak demand.

Battery storage is often called the "Holy Grail" for turning power grids green, because it could provide power during stretches when the wind isn't blowing or the sun isn't shining.

"Storage is close in five years to being a potential game changer, but nobody (in Texas) was talking about it," said Don Clevenger, Oncor senior vice president for planning. "Storage really does address a lot of problems with one device. There's a real panacea of benefits."

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Duke Energy will upgrade the battery storage system at its West Texas wind farm to the more efficient lithium-ion variety.

Tesla and others are developing the mass production of rechargeable lithium-ion batteries for power grids and homes from the same technology already used in electric cars. The batteries would store energy from power lines or wind turbines and release the power when it's needed most.

Texas is seen as an ideal candidate for battery development because of the state's topography and climate. The state leads the nation in wind power and has several solar farm projects in the works.

"It's totally feasible to be 100 percent renewable with massive grids and storage," said Peter Rive, the co-founder and chief technology officer of SolarCity, a major California solar panel company that's chaired by Tesla founder Elon Musk. "We've done it in some (localized) micro-grids."

How much can solar produce at night? As much as you need.

 

[skookerasbil]

Why Is Asia Returning to Coal?

Hmmm......the religion s telling us daily in here that coal is dead!

 

[skookerasbil]

Texas' grid of tomorrow may include batteries

Sleek lithium-ion battery systems that resemble mainframe computers are poised to connect with Texas' electric grid for the first time this year as more companies seek to revolutionize the power market.

Renewable power advocates see energy storage technologies, such as industry-leading lithium-ion batteries, as the critical step toward making electricity from wind and solar more reliable and cost effective than fossil fuel or nuclear power.

North Carolina-based Duke Energy is converting a 36-megawatt battery system at its wind farm in West Texas from outdated lead-acid batteries to the more efficient lithium-ion variety, favored for electric vehicles.


Likewise, Virginia-based AES Corp. is teaming up with Texas transmission company Oncor to construct a 20-megawatt, lithium-ion battery project in Dallas to help maintain a steady flow of electricity as demand rises and falls. One megawatt can power about 200 typical Houston resi-dences during peak demand.

Battery storage is often called the "Holy Grail" for turning power grids green, because it could provide power during stretches when the wind isn't blowing or the sun isn't shining.

"Storage is close in five years to being a potential game changer, but nobody (in Texas) was talking about it," said Don Clevenger, Oncor senior vice president for planning. "Storage really does address a lot of problems with one device. There's a real panacea of benefits."

• 

IMAGE 1 OF 12
Duke Energy will upgrade the battery storage system at its West Texas wind farm to the more efficient lithium-ion variety.

Tesla and others are developing the mass production of rechargeable lithium-ion batteries for power grids and homes from the same technology already used in electric cars. The batteries would store energy from power lines or wind turbines and release the power when it's needed most.

Texas is seen as an ideal candidate for battery development because of the state's topography and climate. The state leads the nation in wind power and has several solar farm projects in the works.

"It's totally feasible to be 100 percent renewable with massive grids and storage," said Peter Rive, the co-founder and chief technology officer of SolarCity, a major California solar panel company that's chaired by Tesla founder Elon Musk. "We've done it in some (localized) micro-grids."

How much can solar produce at night? As much as you need.

That's a statement coming from "Solar City". Of course that's what they are going to say. Solar is providing 1% of our electricity. Its grown about 0.4 % in the past 3-4 years ( according to Obamas EIA ). Laughable.

 

[Crick]

9.5 and 6.8 = 16.3 GW

Watts Bar's two plants have capacities of 1.167 GW and 1.165 GW or 2.332 GW total. Last time I checked, 16.3 was larger than 2.332, by a factor of just under 700%

A GW, by the way, is a giga-watt or a billion watts.

Sure, but the industry does not use GW? GW means nothing.
From my post, which is linked, Watts Bar produces 17,975 GW·h.
That is more than the 16.3 gwh that you claim was produced by solar and wind. Last night at midnight to 1am, what did Watts Bar produce produce, 17,975 gwh, what did Wind and Solar produce last night, from midnight to 1am? Solar zero, Wind, less than half of what Wind is capable of? 1/4 of its rated output, maybe less than 1% of its output, I guess we really do not know, cause the wind did not blow everywhere last night.

What link shows Watts Bar producing 1,975 GW hr? The only thing I get on your links is a Wikipedia article expaining units. When I look up Watts Bar, it says 2.332 GW.

 

[Crick]

The Watts Bar Nuclear Power Plant is a Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA) nuclear reactor used for electric power generation. It is located on a 1,770-acre (7.2 km²) site in Rhea County, Tennessee, near Spring City, between the cities of Chattanooga and Knoxville. Watts Bar supplies enough electricity for about 1,200,000 households in the Tennessee Valley.

The plant, construction of which began in 1973, has two Westinghouse pressurized water reactor units: Unit 1, completed in 1996, and Unit 2, completed in 2015. Unit 1 has a winter net dependable generating capacity of 1,167 megawatts. Unit 2 has a capacity of 1,165 megawatts. Unit 2 is the most recent civilian reactor to come on-line in the United States and the first new reactor to enter service in the United States after a 20 year hiatus.
Watts Bar Nuclear Generating Station - Wikipedia
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That makes for a total capacity of 2,332 MW or 2.332 GW. Your claim of 1,975 GW is off by a factor of almost 850X

 

[skookerasbil]

The Watts Bar Nuclear Power Plant is a Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA) nuclear reactor used for electric power generation. It is located on a 1,770-acre (7.2 km²) site in Rhea County, Tennessee, near Spring City, between the cities of Chattanooga and Knoxville. Watts Bar supplies enough electricity for about 1,200,000 households in the Tennessee Valley.

The plant, construction of which began in 1973, has two Westinghouse pressurized water reactor units: Unit 1, completed in 1996, and Unit 2, completed in 2015. Unit 1 has a winter net dependable generating capacity of 1,167 megawatts. Unit 2 has a capacity of 1,165 megawatts. Unit 2 is the most recent civilian reactor to come on-line in the United States and the first new reactor to enter service in the United States after a 20 year hiatus.
Watts Bar Nuclear Generating Station - Wikipedia
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That makes for a total capacity of 2,332 MW or 2.332 GW. Your claim of 1,975 GW is off by a factor of almost 850X

post is irrelevant Like saying, "I jacked the car up leading to a 12 second ET."

God......none of these science guys has the ability to see big picture.

 

[RollingThunder]

$36 trillion would buy a lot of bullets, the best expedient I can imagine to cure the global warming scam.

But that is only because you are so very retarded and so completely brainwashed and ignorant.

One bullet fired upwards through the roof of your mouth is all it would take to cure your insanity. Use it!

 

[skookerasbil]

$36 trillion would buy a lot of bullets, the best expedient I can imagine to cure the global warming scam.

But that is only because you are so very retarded and so completely brainwashed and ignorant.

One bullet fired upwards through the roof of your mouth is all it would take to cure your insanity. Use it!

lol........evidently, Thunder has been in bed since the election. He's woken up...........and he's PiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiSSSSED!

 

[skookerasbil]

https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2016/jan/31/solar-power-what-is-holding-back-growth-clean-energy

 

[Billy_Bob]

The cost per kw of the wind and solar electricity is far lower than that of nuclear. It is far quicker to install, and with grid scale storage, can be 24/7. And that is what matters to the consumer. Cost per kw.

I call BULLSHIT!

 

[skookerasbil]

The cost per kw of the wind and solar electricity is far lower than that of nuclear. It is far quicker to install, and with grid scale storage, can be 24/7. And that is what matters to the consumer. Cost per kw.

I call BULLSHIT!

Its all still theory on costs.

Growth in renewable energy is likely to slow
By Leonid Bershidsky / Bloomberg View
Saturday, June 4th, 2016 at 12:02am

For hydrocarbon doomsayers, there’s good news and bad news. In 2015, there were record investments in renewable energy, and record capacity was added, much of it in emerging economies. Yet despite the huge investment, the global share of fossil fuels is not shrinking very fast.

Renewables such as wind, solar and geothermal still account for a tiny share of energy production, and there are factors that may inhibit their growth in the next few years.

Although investment in renewables and in the oil industry are of comparable magnitude – $522 billion was invested in oil last year – sustainable energy is growing from a very low base.

Wind, solar, biomass and geothermal power used in power generation – the area where most governments have concentrated their sustainable energy efforts – account for just 1.4 percent of global energy consumption.

Renewables such as wind, solar and geothermal still account for a tiny share of energy production, and there are factors that may inhibit their growth in the next few years.

https://www.abqjournal.com/785681/growth-in-renewable-energy-is-likely-to-slow.html



Like Ive said in here a million times........renewable energy is a joke.


The climate crusaders always post up lofty growth numbers.........as if renewables are about to dominate the world. When you take a closer look though ( in other words, not hopelessly duped ) you see renewable energy for what it is: fringe energy for the green profiteers.


Stoopid supporters are just so highly naïve, its frankly shocking.

 

[RollingThunder]

The cost per kw of the wind and solar electricity is far lower than that of nuclear. It is far quicker to install, and with grid scale storage, can be 24/7. And that is what matters to the consumer. Cost per kw.

I call BULLSHIT!

Right....but that is just because you are a ridiculous cretin who knows nothing.

 

[Billy_Bob]

The cost per kw of the wind and solar electricity is far lower than that of nuclear. It is far quicker to install, and with grid scale storage, can be 24/7. And that is what matters to the consumer. Cost per kw.

I call BULLSHIT!

Right....but that is just because you are a ridiculous cretin who knows nothing.

You have outed yourself, again!

I say we charge the renewable fools for the energy consumption and running of power plants to back them up. Then we take away their subsidies of 28-39 cents per Kwh. Then we kill the early failure subsidy to repair windmills and solar panels which fail at 5-8 years needing total replacements... Remove the forced purchase by those who own power grids.

Now lets see what is really cost effective and viable..

 

[skookerasbil]

Billy..............dude..........have you ever had as much fun in here?

Thunder is BACK!! And with every post, puts it on a tee for skeptics!

 

[RollingThunder]

Billy..............dude..........have you ever had as much fun in here?

So, your idea of fun is getting your ass kicked again and again, eh, kooksucker? You poor retard!

 

[elektra]

How much does it cost, how much have they spent.

Will any democrat supporters of green energy tell us the cost?

no

 

[elektra]

since this original estimate the democrats have revised and stated green clean renewable energy will cost $100 trillion dollars! Essentially, never ending spending.