30yrs Of Helping Us Out/18 Days For Us to Sell Him Out...

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    I know everyone has their own take on this Egyptian Revolt but i think it's important to point out just how much our own U.S. Government sold Mubarak out. It sure didn't take our Government very long to throw him under the bus huh? The man spent 30yrs helping us out yet it took our Government just 18 Days to completely sell the man out. What does that say about own Country and our Foreign Policy? Something to ponder i guess. :eusa_think:
     
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    You do realize he was a brutal Dictator responsible for very harsh treatment of his people right?
     
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    No i didn't realize that. I know i'm hearing an awful lot of propaganda on that now though. I've heard propaganda before so i'm not so easily convinced. I do know the man stuck his neck out for us over there for 30yrs. And in return we gave him just 18 Days before we completely sold him out. Who can really trust the U.S. Government anymore?
     
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    Now you do. He was a brutal dictator who enriched himself, his family and his cronies on the backs of an Egyptian populace that was under his oppressive thumb and remained poor.

    You didn't hear about this much b/c he was also a good stooge for the US - so our government and our so-called independent media didn't tell you the bad parts.

    He was a thug. He's still a thug. Good fucking riddance to him. And all respect to the people of Egypt who stood strong against oppression, displayed undo patience and toppled a government without mass violence.
     
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    So much more reason for Libo to love him.
     
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    Remember when ""spreadin' 'mocracy was the Republican meme? Boy, that sure died fast.
     
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    The people are always right

    Just took Mubarak a while to figure it out
     
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    How he treated his people is inconsequential, according to LibNow.... the only people who matter are Americans.

    Whether this revolution will be the start of a new democracy or an opportunity for a power grab by extremists remains to be seen. The Iranians lived to regret theirs.
     
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    Yeah what Cali said. Mubarak was a shitty "President". And shit is shit, but some shits smell worse than others. What if he gets replaced by someone who makes him look like Mary Poppins? Wait and see I guess.
     
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    The following article shows prominent conservatives really don't agree with the premise of this thread.

    Did Obama Help Oust Mubarak?
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    "If I were the president, I would not want to take credit" for Mubarak's departure, said Boston University international relations professor Arthur Hulnick, a former Air Force and CIA intelligence officer.

    Indeed, at his last news conference as White House spokesman, Robert Gibbs underscored that the challenges facing Egypt are "not going to be solved here. We will continue to play a constructive role in helping this process along but this started with the Egyptian people and it will end with the Egyptian people."

    Hulnick said it wasn't just the White House that was left irate and flummoxed by Mubarak's surprise speech Thursday in which he defied all expectations that he would step down. Egypt's military was not willing to deal with the fallout in the streets sparked by Mubarak's stubborn refusal to leave.

    "Somebody said to him 'This is a mistake. You're out.' I suspect it was one of the generals," Hulnick said.

    Yes, administration officials and envoys worked the phones to gently push Mubarak out. And Defense Secretary Robert Gates did tell Egypt's defense minister, Field Marshal Mohamed Hussein Tantawi, that the United States would not lift a finger to keep Mubarak in power, Hulnick said.

    "Whether we were the major influence, though, I'm sure not," Hulnick said. "Mubarak understood that no one was going to stand by him and he had no choice" but to leave.

    "Ultimately, this was about Egypt and not the United States," said Michael Rubin, a Middle East expert at the conservative American Enterprise Institute. "Had Obama sided with the protesters initially, rather than tried to straddle the fence, the United States would have far greater leverage now."

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    The libertarian Cato Institute congratulated Obama for staying out of "a purely internal matter" and not caving to calls by some for a "heavy-handed U.S. role in this whole affair."

    Mubarak Resigns: Did Obama Help Oust Egyptian President?

    So here we have the Cato Institute and American Enterprise Institute basically disagree that Obama's influence had much to do with this.
    This entire event was the wish of the people for democracy, something the USA has pushed worldwide for decades.
     
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