$30K a year on UI; why go to work?

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    N.J. GOP assemblyman suggests reducing jobless benefits as incentive for unemployed to find work | NJ.com

    Good question.
     
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    Middle class getting its back broken by this shit.
     
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    They must pay pretty good close to 600.00 a week.
     
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    Yes they do. I live in a seasonal area where many people work in the summer and collect all winter. And even so, many summer businesses have to hire foreign workers because they are short handed. Many people get paid cash under the table while they are collecting UI, and are also eligible for other entitlements. Fraud is rarely investigated. It's a complete mess, and business owners are left with the tab.

    This guy will be villified for his "lack of compassion". Even though many know he speaks the truth.
     
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    No so much as business owners as tax payers, business owners get a write off for it tax payers don't.
     
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    The attitude is that because people contribute to it; it's theirs. That's why they call it "insurance" right? But the truth is that like all redistribution schemes, the takers get the majority of the pie. It's time for all these programs to be revamped and audited for waste. We have no choice.
     
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    Better idea would be to send all foreigners out of this country until times get better, then there would be plenty jobs to go round. and don't say Americans wont do those jobs they will when its all they can get.
     
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    Yay and nay froggy. I had an interesting conversation with a guy who owns a commercial fishing business. He had hired illegal Mexicans for years until he got caught and fined. He said this was actually a blessing in disguise because the feds put him in touch with a Russian employment program that has provided him with outstanding workers. He claims he CAN NOT get reliable help here at the shore. It is a dangerous, tough job. But these guys can pull in $100K a year. Too many would rather collect $30K doing nothing. Foreign workers are needed. But there is a LEGAL way.
     
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    If you're geting $550 a week you must have made at least $1,100 a week when you were working.

    Could YOU take a hit in half your salary and be happy?

    It isn't like every person collecting makes the same amount, ya know.

    Generally you make about half your salary up to some limit (depending on the state).

    Now when somebody working a crap seasonal job gets laid off and collects, I do not doubt that they also take an under the table job and wait it out fo the next season to start.

    But when some gray or white collar guy making high six figures gets laid off most of them are in serious trouble (as they've been living that more expensive lifestyle) so they truly do want to get back to working at their former salaries.

    As so many have pointed out there is ONE job out there for every FIVE unemployed.

    So even if every person filled every job (and they cannot because they're not suited to the work) there's still be over 5 MILLION unemplyed workers and NO JOBS available for them.

    Obviously the solution is jobs creation.

    Merely taking people off unemployment will do nothing to solve the true problem this nation (and the unemployed) are facing
     
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    In IL basically UI is 1/3 your salary of previous year working. So if one made $75k per year, benefits would be $25k per year. However, if salary was $30k per year, it's $10k per year-not minimum wage.

    Worse yet, there's a built in disincentive to working full time for those at the lower end. One can work for up to 1/2 the weekly benefits and retain UI benefits. So if 1/2 of weekly benefits are $150, that's the amount that one can earn. Go over that, they start deducting, though one does pay the taxes on the 'earned income.' You lose.
     

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