30% tariffs on solar panels

Elon Musk. The man is smart enough to put together a research team and come up with a cheaper way of making very efficient solar panels, and integrate those into his business model as well as sell them on the open market.


Lol so he is going to build a plant in America and what's going to happen when we get a Democrat president and he removes the tariffs and Asia starts dumping again?
Most of Musk's plants are in America. And yes, he will build plants in America, as well as his high end solar roof plant which already exists. Create an opportunity for that man, and he will take it.
 
Elon Musk. The man is smart enough to put together a research team and come up with a cheaper way of making very efficient solar panels, and integrate those into his business model as well as sell them on the open market.


Lol so he is going to build a plant in America and what's going to happen when we get a Democrat president and he removes the tariffs and Asia starts dumping again?
Most of Musk's plants are in America. And yes, he will build plants in America, as well as his high end solar roof plant which already exists. Create an opportunity for that man, and he will take it.

my-hero-gary-grayson.jpg
 
The price of solar panels has dropped so much it actually makes no difference.

And yet...without government subsidies, the math STILL does not work. My mother has a solar system...and without the subsidies, the payoff was never. (The expected life of the system was shorter than the payoff.)
Liar. The guarantee on most systems are that at 25 years old, the system will still be producing more than 80% of the original power.

What Is the Average Payback Period of a Solar Installation? | Direct Energy Solar

Because each installation and customer is different, no two payback periods are exactly the same. But we can still speak in averages. A state like California, for example, offers average payback periods of about 9 years. It takes as little as 7 years to recoup all upfront costs in New Jersey. Again, your payback period may be higher or lower depending on the specific circumstances surrounding your solar installation.

In both of the above examples, the financial returns exceed the S&P Index’s historic 9.9% rate. Unlike Wall Street, however, going solar is essentially a risk-free investment.

And here’s why:

  • As grid electricity rates continue to rise with time, the payback period of your solar installation becomes shorter – and the ROI of your system becomes higher. No matter what your local utility company chooses to charge in the future, the sun will remain the same price forever (i.e. free).
  • After reaching the payback period, you enjoy decades of free electricity for the remaining lifetime of your solar installation (most systems come with a standard 25-year warranty, but many PV installations last 40 years or longer).
What an ignoramus! Written by a solar energy company to promote itself based in unsubstantiated "forecasts". And even based on THOSE forecasts the payback is seven years?! Sucker!
 
Elon Musk. The man is smart enough to put together a research team and come up with a cheaper way of making very efficient solar panels, and integrate those into his business model as well as sell them on the open market.


Lol so he is going to build a plant in America and what's going to happen when we get a Democrat president and he removes the tariffs and Asia starts dumping again?
Most of Musk's plants are in America. And yes, he will build plants in America, as well as his high end solar roof plant which already exists. Create an opportunity for that man, and he will take it.

my-hero-gary-grayson.jpg
Well, rich (?) boy, you are welcome to join the competition.
 
Wonder how many libs here blew a gasket when this happened during Obama's administration?:

U.S. Imposes Steep Tariffs on Chinese Solar Panels


By Diane Cardwell

Dec. 16, 2014
The Commerce Department began closing a chapter in a protracted trade conflict with China over solar equipment Tuesday, approving a collection of steep tariffs on imports from China and Taiwan.

The decision, intended to close a loophole that had allowed Chinese manufacturers to avoid tariffs imposed in an earlier ruling by using cells — a major module component — made in Taiwan, found that the companies were selling products below the cost of manufacture and that the Chinese companies were benefiting from unfair subsidies from their government.

The department announced anti-dumping duties of 26.71 percent to 78.42 percent on imports of most solar panels made in China, and rates of 11.45 percent to 27.55 percent on imports of solar cells made in Taiwan. In addition, the department announced anti-subsidy duties of 27.64 percent to 49.79 percent for Chinese modules.

“These remedies come just in time to enable the domestic industry to return to conditions of fair trade,” said Mukesh Dulani, president of SolarWorld Americas. “The tariffs and scope set the stage for companies to create new jobs and build or expand factories on U.S. soil.”


U.S. Imposes Steep Tariffs on Chinese Solar Panels
 
The price of solar panels has dropped so much it actually makes no difference.

And yet...without government subsidies, the math STILL does not work. My mother has a solar system...and without the subsidies, the payoff was never. (The expected life of the system was shorter than the payoff.)
Liar. The guarantee on most systems are that at 25 years old, the system will still be producing more than 80% of the original power.

What Is the Average Payback Period of a Solar Installation? | Direct Energy Solar

Because each installation and customer is different, no two payback periods are exactly the same. But we can still speak in averages. A state like California, for example, offers average payback periods of about 9 years. It takes as little as 7 years to recoup all upfront costs in New Jersey. Again, your payback period may be higher or lower depending on the specific circumstances surrounding your solar installation.

In both of the above examples, the financial returns exceed the S&P Index’s historic 9.9% rate. Unlike Wall Street, however, going solar is essentially a risk-free investment.

And here’s why:

  • As grid electricity rates continue to rise with time, the payback period of your solar installation becomes shorter – and the ROI of your system becomes higher. No matter what your local utility company chooses to charge in the future, the sun will remain the same price forever (i.e. free).
  • After reaching the payback period, you enjoy decades of free electricity for the remaining lifetime of your solar installation (most systems come with a standard 25-year warranty, but many PV installations last 40 years or longer).
Yes...until it has to be removed in order to replace the roof on the house!
 
Wonder how many libs here blew a gasket when this happened during Obama's administration?:

U.S. Imposes Steep Tariffs on Chinese Solar Panels


By Diane Cardwell

Dec. 16, 2014
The Commerce Department began closing a chapter in a protracted trade conflict with China over solar equipment Tuesday, approving a collection of steep tariffs on imports from China and Taiwan.

The decision, intended to close a loophole that had allowed Chinese manufacturers to avoid tariffs imposed in an earlier ruling by using cells — a major module component — made in Taiwan, found that the companies were selling products below the cost of manufacture and that the Chinese companies were benefiting from unfair subsidies from their government.

The department announced anti-dumping duties of 26.71 percent to 78.42 percent on imports of most solar panels made in China, and rates of 11.45 percent to 27.55 percent on imports of solar cells made in Taiwan. In addition, the department announced anti-subsidy duties of 27.64 percent to 49.79 percent for Chinese modules.

“These remedies come just in time to enable the domestic industry to return to conditions of fair trade,” said Mukesh Dulani, president of SolarWorld Americas. “The tariffs and scope set the stage for companies to create new jobs and build or expand factories on U.S. soil.”


U.S. Imposes Steep Tariffs on Chinese Solar Panels

Or how many wounded eco-warriors know that Al GORE, the grand Poobah of GWarming, agrees with the proposed new tariffs???

Al Gore Defends Trump’s Solar Tariff Decision At Davos
 
Musk just built a huge Factory in Buffalo for solar panels... And China dumping solar panels in the United States is what made solyndra go semi bankrupt. That's the factory the right-wing has been bad mouthing Obama about as if it meant that his stimulus didn't work... Which it did greatly... Stupid jackasses oops I mean brainwashed functional stupid jackasses.
 
Who else benefits ?

American solar panel makers.
They dont seem to be very happy about it.

Most American solar companies aren't manufacturers, they're importers.
The costs will go up for the consumer.

Prices have been held artificially low for a decade because of a combination of solar subsidies and Chinese dumping of panels and charge collectors. If solar is the magic panacea that its proponents claim, it should stand on its own with other forms of power.
It does.
 
Wonder how many libs here blew a gasket when this happened during Obama's administration?:

U.S. Imposes Steep Tariffs on Chinese Solar Panels


By Diane Cardwell

Dec. 16, 2014
The Commerce Department began closing a chapter in a protracted trade conflict with China over solar equipment Tuesday, approving a collection of steep tariffs on imports from China and Taiwan.

The decision, intended to close a loophole that had allowed Chinese manufacturers to avoid tariffs imposed in an earlier ruling by using cells — a major module component — made in Taiwan, found that the companies were selling products below the cost of manufacture and that the Chinese companies were benefiting from unfair subsidies from their government.

The department announced anti-dumping duties of 26.71 percent to 78.42 percent on imports of most solar panels made in China, and rates of 11.45 percent to 27.55 percent on imports of solar cells made in Taiwan. In addition, the department announced anti-subsidy duties of 27.64 percent to 49.79 percent for Chinese modules.

“These remedies come just in time to enable the domestic industry to return to conditions of fair trade,” said Mukesh Dulani, president of SolarWorld Americas. “The tariffs and scope set the stage for companies to create new jobs and build or expand factories on U.S. soil.”


U.S. Imposes Steep Tariffs on Chinese Solar Panels
Everything Saint Obama does is holy and perfect. LOL
 
You've never seen a sepharidic or Mizrahi Jew, have you?

They and their decendants now comprise a majority in Israel today.

Deal with, Joehammad.

No, they don't. Please stop lying. The Zionists are invaders from Europe,and that's where they need to go back to.

should also point out that the Sepharidic Jews were the ones who were Chased out of Spain because they were helping the Muslims fuck Christians over when it was called Andalusia. so they turned around and screwed the Arabs who helped them.
 
You've never seen a sepharidic or Mizrahi Jew, have you?

They and their decendants now comprise a majority in Israel today.

Deal with, Joehammad.

No, they don't. Please stop lying. The Zionists are invaders from Europe,and that's where they need to go back to.

should also point out that the Sepharidic Jews were the ones who were Chased out of Spain because they were helping the Muslims fuck Christians over when it was called Andalusia. so they turned around and screwed the Arabs who helped them.
"Sephardic Jews were helping the Muslims fuck the Christians". Wow, so your ignorance is not limited to the Middle East. Spain was invaded and conquered by Muslims for 500 years. The Spainish Jews were Jews who fled the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem. Some fled east, which are now called Mizrahi Jews or Arab Jews or Middle Eastern Jews. But they are the same people and look the same. The Jews of Spain then fled Spain when Christian Europeans tried to take back their lands from Muslim invaders and "Christianize" Europe, hence the Crusades or Inquisitions.
 
Sephardic Jews were helping the Muslims fuck the Christians". Wow, so your ignorance is not limited to the Middle East. Spain was invaded and conquered by Muslims for 500 years. The Spainish Jews were Jews who fled the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem. Some fled east, which are now called Mizrahi Jews or Arab Jews or Middle Eastern Jews. But they are the same people and look the same. The Jews of Spain then fled Spain when Christian Europeans tried to take back their lands from Muslim invaders and "Christianize" Europe, hence the Crusades or Inquisitions.

Yeah, i know, the Jews are always innocent bystanders. No, really. They never deserve the animus they get.
 
No, they don't. Please stop lying. The Zionists are invaders from Europe,and that's where they need to go back to.
You guys on the left want it both ways.

Are Jews followers of the RELIGION? Or are they a RACE? And how do you know Jews are brown and not white?

King David was a ginger. Sarah was a blonde. The "European" Jews are the racially pure Jews.
 

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