3 US Navy sailors killed in the Pensacola Navy base saved lives when they ran toward gunman

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Investigators have been trying to determine what motivated a gunman who opened fire in a classroom building on Friday at the Naval Air Station Pensacola. He used a handgun and was killed after two deputies exchanged gunfire with him.

The shooter was identified by the FBI as Mohammed Alshamrani -- a 21-year-old second lieutenant in the Saudi Arabian air force. He was a student naval flight officer, according to an FBI spokesperson. The shooter does not appear to have ties to terrorist groups, two sources told CNN.

Escambia County Sheriff David Morgan told CNN's Erin Burnett that the FBI had secured the areas on base where the shooter was staying and they had recovered his laptop and cell phone.

A senior administration official told CNN that investigators found some concerning statements and online materials but noted that it was still early in the investigation.

Before Friday's attack, Alshamrani watched mass shooting videos at a dinner party, The New York Times reported, citing a source with knowledge of the investigation but not authorized to speak publicly.

Alshamrani and a small group of Saudi nationals had just traveled to New York City over the Thanksgiving holiday, a law enforcement source told CNN.

They visited several museums and the Rockefeller Center, where the Christmas tree lighting was taking place. Authorities don't know why they traveled to the city...

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...

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“The shooter does not appear to have ties to terrorist groups”

Yes, he obviously had ties to the world’s largest terrorist group - Islam.

For someone who was determined to kill Americans and watched videos about mass shootings, this guy didn’t do a very good job. There are more Saudis detained than fatalities; God bless the men who helped stop this rampage, and comfort their families.

Those 3 men are great examples of what our young, heroic men that volunteer for service are all about, In my book they all deserve the Medsl of Honor!
 
Funny how CNN comes out swinging with anonymous "sources" that claim the shooter had no terrorist ties when the investigation is ongoing and it seems that the shooter was radicalized. Did CNN merge with Al Jazeera while we weren't looking? The Purple Heart award for being wounded in enemy action would be an issue. I think the wounded Ft. Hood Soldiers were awarded a Heart.
 
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If the brass hadn’t resisted this, Pensacola might have gone differently. Instead, even those standing watch weren’t armed. An unarmed guard isn’t a guard at all, but something more like a hall monitor.
Hey. Hall monitors are allowed to get dirty at work.
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Investigators have been trying to determine what motivated a gunman who opened fire in a classroom building on Friday at the Naval Air Station Pensacola. He used a handgun and was killed after two deputies exchanged gunfire with him.

The shooter was identified by the FBI as Mohammed Alshamrani -- a 21-year-old second lieutenant in the Saudi Arabian air force. He was a student naval flight officer, according to an FBI spokesperson. The shooter does not appear to have ties to terrorist groups, two sources told CNN.

Escambia County Sheriff David Morgan told CNN's Erin Burnett that the FBI had secured the areas on base where the shooter was staying and they had recovered his laptop and cell phone.

A senior administration official told CNN that investigators found some concerning statements and online materials but noted that it was still early in the investigation.

Before Friday's attack, Alshamrani watched mass shooting videos at a dinner party, The New York Times reported, citing a source with knowledge of the investigation but not authorized to speak publicly.

Alshamrani and a small group of Saudi nationals had just traveled to New York City over the Thanksgiving holiday, a law enforcement source told CNN.

They visited several museums and the Rockefeller Center, where the Christmas tree lighting was taking place. Authorities don't know why they traveled to the city...

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...

------------

“The shooter does not appear to have ties to terrorist groups”

Yes, he obviously had ties to the world’s largest terrorist group - Islam.

For someone who was determined to kill Americans and watched videos about mass shootings, this guy didn’t do a very good job. There are more Saudis detained than fatalities; God bless the men who helped stop this rampage, and comfort their families.

Those 3 men are great examples of what our young, heroic men that volunteer for service are all about, In my book they all deserve the Medsl of Honor!
Now our authorities will all pretend that we don't know what motivated this. Trump won't, and that is why he is the right man to be President today.

Violent jihadism is the inexorable result of the vibrance in Islam of sharia supremacism — a scripturally-rooted summons to Muslims to strive for conquest over infidels until Allah’s law (sharia) is established everywhere on earth.

Sharia supremacism is a mainstream interpretation of Islam.​

This ideology — also referred to as “Islamism,” “Islamic supremacism,” “radical Islam,” “political Islam,” and other descriptors that endeavor to distinguish it from Islam (and to imply that such a distinction should be drawn) — is not the only way of interpreting Islam. Indeed, it is rejected by millions of Muslims. The conquest for which it strives, moreover, is not necessarily to be achieved by violence. Sharia supremacism is, nevertheless, a mainstream interpretation of Islam. Inevitably, it leads some believers to carry out jihadist violence, and an even greater number of believers to support the jihadists’ objectives, if not their methods.

Since 1993, the bipartisan American ruling class, throughout administrations of both parties, has refused to acknowledge, much less grapple with, this central truth of the threat we face. It has insisted, against fact and reason, that Islam is a monolithic “religion of peace,” and therefore that there can be no causal connection between Islamic doctrine and terrorism committed by Muslims. It has fraudulently maintained that jihadist violence is not jihadist at all — after all, we are to understand jihad (notwithstanding its roots as a belligerent concept, as holy war to establish sharia) to be a noble internal struggle to become a better person, to vanquish corruption, and the like. Terrorist attacks must be airbrushed into “violent extremism,” shorn of any ideological component — as if the killing were wanton, not purposeful. The fact that the attacks are so ubiquitously committed by Muslims (who explicitly cite scriptural chapter and verse to justify themselves), is to be ignored — as if all religions and ideologies were equally prone to inspire mass-murder attacks if believed too fervently.

This deceit at the core of American counterterrorism efforts has led seamlessly to other frauds. Among the most grievous is this one: Saudi Arabia is a key counterterrorism ally of the United States.

This is why it is time — it is long, long past time — for the United States government to come clean with the American people, and with the families of Americans slaughtered on 9/11 by 19 jihadists, 15 of them Saudis. The government must disclose the 28 pages of the 2002 congressional report on the 9/11 attacks that it has shamefully withheld from the public for 14 years. Those pages outline Saudi complicity in the jihad.

The Saudis are the world’s chief propagator of sharia supremacism.​

It is nothing short of disgraceful that the Bush and Obama administrations, relying on the president’s constitutional authority over foreign intelligence and the conduct of foreign affairs, have concealed these materials. It is equally disgraceful that Congress has indulged this decision in the context of its own fact-finding exercise. This has been done under the pretense that the Saudi government is a stalwart counterterrorism ally of the United States — an absurd proposition that passes the laugh test only if one accepts the even more absurd premise that Islam has nothing to do with jihadist terrorism.

The Saudis are the world’s chief propagator of sharia supremacism, sharia being the law of the Sunni kingdom. In Saudi Arabia, Wahhabism, a literalist interpretation of Islam rooted in scripture dating back 1,400 years, is the dominant belief system. For decades, the House of Saud has played a double game with the West:
1) feigning moderation while promoting and internally enforcing this repressive fundamentalism, which brutally discriminates against women, non-Muslims, and Muslim minorities;
2) posturing as a staunch counterterrorism ally while exporting their ideology — and, when called on it, rationalizing either that their ideology does not catalyze jihadism, or that, even if it does, exporting it is necessary to ensure that jihadists do not seize control of the kingdom and its oil wealth — an outcome that, we are warned, would be far worse for the West.​

9/11 Report’s 28 Pages on Saudi Arabia’s Terrorism Connections Should Be Released | National Review
 

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