3 Trillion US dollars in Aid given to Israel

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[MikeK]

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While it is commonly reported that Israel officially receives some $3 billion every year in the form of economic aid from the U.S. government, this figure is just the tip of the iceberg. There are many billions of dollars more in hidden costs and economic losses lurking beneath the surface. A recently published economic analysis has concluded that U.S. support for the state of Israel has cost American taxpayers nearly $3 trillion ($3 million millions) in 2002 dollars.

"The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion" is a summary of economic research done by Thomas R. Stauffer. Stauffer's summary of the research was published in the June 2003 issue of The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs.

Stauffer is a Washington, D.C.-based engineer and economist who writes and teaches about the economics of energy and the Middle East. Stauffer has taught at Harvard University and Georgetown University's School of Foreign Service. Stauffer's findings were first presented at an October 2002 conference sponsored by the U.S. Army College and the University of Maine.

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More here: The Real Cost Of US Support For Israel - $3 Trillion

 

[uscitizen]

Interesting stuff and more believable than the 3 billion figure.

 

[mudwhistle]

OMG!!!


Seems we should be helping one of our only true allies in the region.


But the Jew-haters on this board would rather we help terrorist supporters.

 

[Toronado3800]

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While it is commonly reported that Israel officially receives some $3 billion every year in the form of economic aid from the U.S. government, this figure is just the tip of the iceberg. There are many billions of dollars more in hidden costs and economic losses lurking beneath the surface. A recently published economic analysis has concluded that U.S. support for the state of Israel has cost American taxpayers nearly $3 trillion ($3 million millions) in 2002 dollars.

"The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion" is a summary of economic research done by Thomas R. Stauffer. Stauffer's summary of the research was published in the June 2003 issue of The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs.

Stauffer is a Washington, D.C.-based engineer and economist who writes and teaches about the economics of energy and the Middle East. Stauffer has taught at Harvard University and Georgetown University's School of Foreign Service. Stauffer's findings were first presented at an October 2002 conference sponsored by the U.S. Army College and the University of Maine.

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More here: The Real Cost Of US Support For Israel - $3 Trillion

Wait! It did not calculate in the damage the forty years of war did to Arab militaries saving us the trouble in Desert Storm 1 and 2.

Also needs to figure in how instead of battling in Tours France modern Muslims are battling back in the med thanks to our strategic olacement of Israel.

Then there are the costs of all the US coffins Israel has saved us. Yup, coffins. Why you ask? It was Israeli boys dying fighting some crazed Muslims not ours.

 

[uscitizen]

OMG!!!


Seems we should be helping one of our only true allies in the region.


But the Jew-haters on this board would rather we help terrorist supporters.

Always with the absolutist conclusions there *****.

Life is not always this or that.

 

[nitroz]

BACK THE FUCK UP!


Nobody should be getting aid $$$ unless we get results!
And we are in debt in the first place.

How much do we send to Pakistan? They don't even allow our troops in their country, they harbor terrorists, and they throw tantrums when we killed bin laden.
Afghanistan is a lost cause. None of them care about the country and a government wouldn't work due to Islam culture. We would be better off setting up a dictatorship over there to keep them in order and as an ally who will destroy terrorists.
Libya, we just need to go in there and kill the leader and get it over with!!!!
We remove the current leader, set up another leader/government, have a new ally, and get out.

 

[Douger]

Define ally.

 

[nitroz]

Define ally.

Someone who will help us and give us aid in international scenarios and trade.

 

[editec]

FYI most of that money never leaves this country.

It goes into an account for Isreal to buy American military technology.

 

[MikeK]

Define ally.

Someone who will help us and give us aid in international scenarios and trade.

When and how did Israel ever help help the U.S.? When it attacked the USS Liberty and murdered our sailors? Or when it conducted the most costly espionage operation in our history against us, the Pollard Affair?

If Israel is an ally in the traditional and literal sense of the word, how many Israeli boots are on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Israel is a parasitic protectorate, not an ally. Israel does absolutely nothing for the U.S. and it never has.

 

[MikeK]

Wait! It did not calculate in the damage the forty years of war did to Arab militaries saving us the trouble in Desert Storm 1 and 2.

Also needs to figure in how instead of battling in Tours France modern Muslims are battling back in the med thanks to our strategic olacement of Israel.

Then there are the costs of all the US coffins Israel has saved us. Yup, coffins. Why you ask? It was Israeli boys dying fighting some crazed Muslims not ours.

Tell us when the U.S. ever experienced any sort of hostility from any Muslim nation or People prior to 1947 when we undertook the support of Israel? That is when our problems with the Middle Eastern nations began and have been escalating ever since.

 

[uscitizen]

Not entirely accurate there. After WW2 we put the son of a hitler collabarator in power in Iran to secure the oil supply from there.

Oil caused muslim tensions without the Israeli influence.

 

[docmauser1]

When and how did Israel ever help help the U.S.? When it attacked the USS Liberty and murdered our sailors? Or when it conducted the most costly espionage operation in our history against us, the Pollard Affair? If Israel is an ally in the traditional and literal sense of the word, how many Israeli boots are on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan? Israel is a parasitic protectorate, not a ally. Israel does absolutely nothing for the U.S. and it never has.

"When and how did Israel ever help help the U.S.?" By being existent, of course, Israel serves as a convenient peg for an assortment of the US judophobic losers to hang their grievances (but, sadly, not themselves) on. That's help enough allright.

 

[abu afak]

This 3 Trillion Figure is Totally BOGUS.
In that number is Blaming Israell for the Oil Embargo, recession, Charity, and so much BS more as a cost.
The OP Further Schmucks it up with the word 'aid' instead of the even wrong 'cost' that is Alleged.

Howard Fienberg: Economists Against Israel, TCS

"...The controversy lies in the "hidden costs" which Stauffer claims to have discovered. For instance, he counts any loans or loan guarantees as a cost.

The U.S. has made $10 billion in commercial loans, and $600 million in housing loans, to Israel. Because Israel's economy is currently in poor shape, Stauffer has decided that the loans will not be repaid. As the Monitor explains, Stauffer predicts "the U.S. would end up paying both principal and interest, perhaps 10 years out." But where does Stauffer get his information? Since Israel has never defaulted on any loans, even a talented economist would need a crystal ball to confidently predict a default ten years down the line.

As well, he includes "economic damage" to the U.S. Stauffer blames Israel for the Arab oil embargo, because America came to Israel's aid when Arab states tried to destroy it in 1973. He claims the embargo caused a recession, which cost the U.S. $420 billion of output as a result. However, it is not clear that the oil embargo triggered the recession. There were many factors, including a decline in American productivity. Further on the economy, Stauffer tallies the cost to the U.S. of rising oil prices at $450 billion. Of course, it is not clear the Stauffer takes account of the benefit of rising oil prices to domestic oil producers. Another result of the Arab oil embargo was the creation of the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve, which Stauffer figures has "conservatively" cost $134 billion. But he does not seem to understand what the money buys. The SPR does not discard oil, it saves it, like a bank, for emergency use. Withdrawals have even been made recently to help with rising home heating oil costs in the Northeastern U.S.

According to Stauffer, trade restrictions and economic sanctions reduce U.S. exports to the Middle East by about $5 billion a year, costing approximately 70,000 American jobs. How exactly trade restrictions on the America-hating regimes of Libya, Iraq, and Iran are Israel's fault remains unexplained. Mind you, the boost in oil prices, part of the "cost" of Israeli support listed above, presumably filled the coffers of Arab nations. Without that money, how could they otherwise afford to buy all the toys and services Stauffer complains we have not sold to them?

On the military side, Stauffer complains that the U.S. has supported the development of Israeli military technologies, spending $2.5 billion on the Lavi fighter jet and the Arrow missile. He conveniently ignores that these technologies, like many other Israeli innovations in medicine and agriculture, are shared with the U.S., making them more of a benefit than a cost.

The most outrageous accounting twist concerns charity. Stauffer complains that American Jewish charities and philanthropists have made grants or bought Israel bonds worth $50-60 billion, providing "a net drain" on the American economy - despite those funds coming from hard-working private citizens who chose to spend it that way.

Beyond all the dubious costs Stauffer manages to compile, there are the many benefits of which he takes no account."..."

Actual aid to Israel over 63 Years is about $110 Billion (no Trillion).

IOW, aid to Israel SIXTY Years Total is about what we spend in Iraq-Istan in ONE Year trying to make an Arab/Muslim Democracy/stable state.

Another and unusually Wild anti-Israel POS.
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[abu afak]

This 3 Trillion Figure is Totally BOGUS.
In that number is Blaming Israell for the Oil Embargo, recession, Charity, and so much BS more as a cost.
The OP Further Schmucks it up with the word 'aid' instead of the even wrong 'cost' that is Alleged.

Howard Fienberg: Economists Against Israel, TCS

"...The controversy lies in the "hidden costs" which Stauffer claims to have discovered. For instance, he counts any loans or loan guarantees as a cost.

The U.S. has made $10 billion in commercial loans, and $600 million in housing loans, to Israel. Because Israel's economy is currently in poor shape, Stauffer has decided that the loans will not be repaid. As the Monitor explains, Stauffer predicts "the U.S. would end up paying both principal and interest, perhaps 10 years out." But where does Stauffer get his information? Since Israel has never defaulted on any loans, even a talented economist would need a crystal ball to confidently predict a default ten years down the line.

As well, he includes "economic damage" to the U.S. Stauffer blames Israel for the Arab oil embargo, because America came to Israel's aid when Arab states tried to destroy it in 1973. He claims the embargo caused a recession, which cost the U.S. $420 billion of output as a result. However, it is not clear that the oil embargo triggered the recession. There were many factors, including a decline in American productivity. Further on the economy, Stauffer tallies the cost to the U.S. of rising oil prices at $450 billion. Of course, it is not clear the Stauffer takes account of the benefit of rising oil prices to domestic oil producers. Another result of the Arab oil embargo was the creation of the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve, which Stauffer figures has "conservatively" cost $134 billion. But he does not seem to understand what the money buys. The SPR does not discard oil, it saves it, like a bank, for emergency use. Withdrawals have even been made recently to help with rising home heating oil costs in the Northeastern U.S.

According to Stauffer, trade restrictions and economic sanctions reduce U.S. exports to the Middle East by about $5 billion a year, costing approximately 70,000 American jobs. How exactly trade restrictions on the America-hating regimes of Libya, Iraq, and Iran are Israel's fault remains unexplained. Mind you, the boost in oil prices, part of the "cost" of Israeli support listed above, presumably filled the coffers of Arab nations. Without that money, how could they otherwise afford to buy all the toys and services Stauffer complains we have not sold to them?

On the military side, Stauffer complains that the U.S. has supported the development of Israeli military technologies, spending $2.5 billion on the Lavi fighter jet and the Arrow missile. He conveniently ignores that these technologies, like many other Israeli innovations in medicine and agriculture, are shared with the U.S., making them more of a benefit than a cost.

The most outrageous accounting twist concerns charity. Stauffer complains that American Jewish charities and philanthropists have made grants or bought Israel bonds worth $50-60 billion, providing "a net drain" on the American economy - despite those funds coming from hard-working private citizens who chose to spend it that way.

Beyond all the dubious costs Stauffer manages to compile, there are the many benefits of which he takes no account."..."

Actual aid to Israel over 63 Years is about $100 Billion (no Trillion).

IOW, aid to Israel SIXTY Years Total is about what we spend in Iraq-Istan in ONE Year trying to make an Arab/Muslim Democracy/stable state.

Another and unusually Wild anti-Israel POS.
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ACTUAL AID To Israel 1949-2009, app $106 Billion (not the Assinine "trillions" the OP Alleges) can be found Here in detail:

U.S. Assistance to Israel

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[Shogun]

Quick! LOOK OVER THERE!!!! MUSLIM MUSLIM ANTISEMITE MUSLIM!!!

*paws hands together greedily*

 

[Shogun]

This 3 Trillion Figure is Totally BOGUS.
In that number is Blaming Israell for the Oil Embargo, recession, Charity, and so much BS more as a cost.
The OP Further Schmucks it up with the word 'aid' instead of the even wrong 'cost' that is Alleged.

Howard Fienberg: Economists Against Israel, TCS

"...The controversy lies in the "hidden costs" which Stauffer claims to have discovered. For instance, he counts any loans or loan guarantees as a cost.

The U.S. has made $10 billion in commercial loans, and $600 million in housing loans, to Israel. Because Israel's economy is currently in poor shape, Stauffer has decided that the loans will not be repaid. As the Monitor explains, Stauffer predicts "the U.S. would end up paying both principal and interest, perhaps 10 years out." But where does Stauffer get his information? Since Israel has never defaulted on any loans, even a talented economist would need a crystal ball to confidently predict a default ten years down the line.

As well, he includes "economic damage" to the U.S. Stauffer blames Israel for the Arab oil embargo, because America came to Israel's aid when Arab states tried to destroy it in 1973. He claims the embargo caused a recession, which cost the U.S. $420 billion of output as a result. However, it is not clear that the oil embargo triggered the recession. There were many factors, including a decline in American productivity. Further on the economy, Stauffer tallies the cost to the U.S. of rising oil prices at $450 billion. Of course, it is not clear the Stauffer takes account of the benefit of rising oil prices to domestic oil producers. Another result of the Arab oil embargo was the creation of the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve, which Stauffer figures has "conservatively" cost $134 billion. But he does not seem to understand what the money buys. The SPR does not discard oil, it saves it, like a bank, for emergency use. Withdrawals have even been made recently to help with rising home heating oil costs in the Northeastern U.S.

According to Stauffer, trade restrictions and economic sanctions reduce U.S. exports to the Middle East by about $5 billion a year, costing approximately 70,000 American jobs. How exactly trade restrictions on the America-hating regimes of Libya, Iraq, and Iran are Israel's fault remains unexplained. Mind you, the boost in oil prices, part of the "cost" of Israeli support listed above, presumably filled the coffers of Arab nations. Without that money, how could they otherwise afford to buy all the toys and services Stauffer complains we have not sold to them?

On the military side, Stauffer complains that the U.S. has supported the development of Israeli military technologies, spending $2.5 billion on the Lavi fighter jet and the Arrow missile. He conveniently ignores that these technologies, like many other Israeli innovations in medicine and agriculture, are shared with the U.S., making them more of a benefit than a cost.

The most outrageous accounting twist concerns charity. Stauffer complains that American Jewish charities and philanthropists have made grants or bought Israel bonds worth $50-60 billion, providing "a net drain" on the American economy - despite those funds coming from hard-working private citizens who chose to spend it that way.

Beyond all the dubious costs Stauffer manages to compile, there are the many benefits of which he takes no account."..."

Actual aid to Israel over 63 Years is about $110 Billion (no Trillion).

IOW, aid to Israel SIXTY Years Total is about what we spend in Iraq-Istan in ONE Year trying to make an Arab/Muslim Democracy/stable state.

Another and unusually Wild anti-Israel POS.
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ACTUAL AID To Israel (not the Assinine POS the OP Alleges) can be found Here in detail:

U.S. Assistance to Israel

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Oh.. the JEWISH virtual library... Well, why didn't you say so?!

 

[Warrior102]

YouTube - ‪US Congress Controlled by AIPAC Dual Citizen Jew freaks Out!‬‏

Pfffft.... um, excuse me Jew hater.
Israel happens to be our ally -

 

[abu afak]

Again, the OP (and post 2) are LIES and LIARS.

No one even alleges the USA has "given" Israel $3 Trillion in Aid.
Only ONE goofy Analysys by Stauffer a few Years ago attempted to Sttttrrrreettttttccchhhh $100 Bil in $3 Trillion with what it allegedly "actually costs."

The OP video is of Radical anti-Israeler Alison Weir. She of not just some 'council' the video introduces,
but Much more Infamously, Owner/operator of anti-Israel website 'ifamericansknew'.
Amateur poster/propagandists here are garbage.

Again, Real Numbers in Detail here: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/U.S._Assistance_to_Israel1.html

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