3 tours in Viet Nam, this is what I think

[Annie]

ZN et |Iraq | Censorship Of The Pressman stories in the emerging newspapers of Baghdad are untrue. ... And of course, we all know how the first pro-American Iraqi government of "New Iraq" will ...
www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=3758 - 13k -



there is no real liberal/Conservative media bias ,that is just the charade
to play us against each other what we have is corporate controlled media
and corporate controlled politicians ,corporate controlled foreign policy
and these people and entity's don't care about abortion ,religion,family values soldiers and civilians dieing or freedom or democracy or human rights but, they know you do so they throw it into the mix and create this election drama to distract and placate ,while they set about the business of expanding the military industrial complex and establishing a new world order global (socialist dictatorship} government

Just some of those corporations hire reporters/writers/producers that have particular POVs. Many of those on the left are committed to undermining the military.

 

[jodylee]

No, I don't misunderstand the ideologies of everyday Muslims. I don't think all Muslims understand that the so called religion they belong to is one of the largest hate group originations in the world and should be abolished in the United States.

http://www.defenselink.mil/

There is a spectrum of belifes in islam, just as in christianity, based on different interpretantions of the koran. this is exactly the same in christianity with moderate and extremist chritian views, based on different interpretations of the bible, infact, taking this scale into account, there isn't much difference between islamic and christian views, any difference that does exsist is cultural rather than purley religious. this simularity is due to to the fact they are closely related in history.

 

[sitarro]

There is a spectrum of belifes in islam, just as in christianity, based on different interpretantions of the koran. this is exactly the same in christianity with moderate and extremist chritian views, based on different interpretations of the bible, infact, taking this scale into account, there isn't much difference between islamic and christian views, any difference that does exsist is cultural rather than purley religious. this simularity is due to to the fact they are closely related in history.

One big difference, Christians believe in the Son Of God, Muslims believe in a war mongering, child raping dirt bag......other than that I guess you're right...kinda.

 

[eots]

You can't fight city hall." "Death and taxes." "Don't talk about politics or religion." This is all the equivalent of enemy propaganda, rolling across the picket line. "Lay down, GI! Lay down, GI!"
We saw it all through the 20th Century. And now in the 21st Century, it's time to stand up and realize, that we should NOT allow ourselves to be crammed into this rat maze. We should not SUBMIT to dehumanization.
I don't know about you, but I'm concerned with what's happening in this world. I'm concerned with the structure. I'm concerned with the systems of control. Those that control my life, and those that seek to control it EVEN MORE! I want FREEDOM! That's what I want, and that's what YOU should want!
It's up to each and every one of us to turn loose of just some of the greed, the hatred, the envy, and yes, the insecurities, because that is the central mode of control, make us feel pathetic, small, so we'll willingly give up our sovereignty, our liberty, our destiny.
We have GOT to realize we're being conditioned on a mass scale. Start challenging this corporate slave state! The 21st Century's gonna be a new century! Not the century of slavery, not the century of lies and issues of no significance, of classism and statism, and all the rest of the modes of control... it's gonna be the age of humankind, standing up for something PURE and something RIGHT!
What a bunch of garbage, liberal, Democratic, conservative, Republican, it's all there to control you, two sides of the same coin! Two management teams, bidding for control of the CEO job of Slavery Incorporated!
The TRUTH is out there in front of you, but they lay out this buffet of LIES! I'm SICK of it, and I'M NOT GONNA TAKE A BITE OUT OF IT! DO YA GOT ME? Resistance is NOT futile, we're gonna win this thing, humankind is too good, WE'RE NOT A BUNCH OF UNDERACHIEVERS, WE'RE GONNA STAND UP, AND WE'RE GONNA BE HUMAN BEINGS! WE'RE GONNA GET FIRED UP ABOUT THE REAL THINGS, THE THINGS THAT MATTER-- CREATIVITY, AND THE *DYNAMIC* *HUMAN* *SPIRIT* THAT REFUSES TO *SUBMIT*!
WELL THAT'S IT, that's all I've got to say. It's in your court now

 

[sitarro]

WELL THAT'S IT, that's all I've got to say. It's in your court now

Please let this be a promise.

 

[Gunny]

Why not keep the topic/posts on this board? Unless someone wants to bring us all up to date?

Update: Maine is an eltist, retired officer who immediately questions others military credentials and makes typical, elitist demeaning remarks concerning those credentials.

That he sees it as him being the victim comes as absolutely no surprise to me, but the fact is, I have not questioned his credentials at all as of yet. He's just one of those people who cannot separate himself from his former rank; therefore, any questioning of him automatically questions his military credentials in his mind.

I have no doubt he was an elitist snob officer. If he wasn't, he's sure got the act down pat.

 

[maineman]

Update: Maine is an eltist, retired officer who immediately questions others military credentials and makes typical, elitist demeaning remarks concerning those credentials.

That he sees it as him being the victim comes as absolutely no surprise to me, but the fact is, I have not questioned his credentials at all as of yet. He's just one of those people who cannot separate himself from his former rank; therefore, any questioning of him automatically questions his military credentials in his mind.

I have no doubt he was an elitist snob officer. If he wasn't, he's sure got the act down pat.

I would suggest this post sort of proved my point...don't you think?

 

[manu1959]

I don't see any mention of Korea.... and Vietnam to GW1 is not hard to understand....I raised my hand in June of '68 and retired in September of 93

go back and read all his claims....he has claimed to have been on the ground in the shit for 40 years.....not in the rear with the gear....in the shit....

 

[Gunny]

I would suggest this post sort of proved my point...don't you think?

Nope, not at all. I have not questioned the credibility of your service; which, was your unsubstantiated allegation.

Whatever my personal opinion of you is, it does not include that. You're trying to see something that isn't there.

 

[maineman]

go back and read all his claims....he has claimed to have been on the ground in the shit for 40 years.....not in the rear with the gear....in the shit....

my assessment as written stands. If you wanna dig up history, go for it...I'll be happy to read anything you haul out. Other than that, I really could give a shit.

 

[Gunny]

I don't see any mention of Korea.... and Vietnam to GW1 is not hard to understand....I raised my hand in June of '68 and retired in September of 93

If you go back and read every thread he has started for the past 3-4 years, you will find he has been just about everywhere and done everything all at the same time. You're jumping into the middle without doing your homework.

 

[Gunny]

my assessment as written stands. If you wanna dig up history, go for it...I'll be happy to read anything you haul out. Other than that, I really could give a shit.

Of course. Why bother knowing what's going on?

 

[manu1959]

my assessment as written stands. If you wanna dig up history, go for it...I'll be happy to read anything you haul out. Other than that, I really could give a shit.

if you couldn't give a shit .... why wade into the middle of something you couldn't give a shit about....

 

[maineman]

if you couldn't give a shit .... why wade into the middle of something you couldn't give a shit about....

just to get a rise out of guys like you.

worked, didn't it?

 

[Annie]

just to get a rise out of guys like you.

worked, didn't it?

Pretty petty, don't you think? Discourse of better standards is appreciated. No sense in starting flames.

 

[manu1959]

just to get a rise out of guys like you.

worked, didn't it?

you flatter yourself.....

 

[Psychoblues]

You haven't lost, DF, Gunny is just a liar and a a fairly natural one at that. I have never claimed "over 40 years" of military experience, in fact I have only claimed just over 14 years and not enough for a retirement but that doesn't dissuade the natural liar or the lemming followers of the natural liars. Be that as it may, you have a plus in my book and a favor in my bank of debt.

I've questioned Gunny before - and always come out on the losing end.

Don't be dissuaded by the likes of gunnyl. He is just lke his DI told him. He ain't shit.


Psychoblues

 

[Annie]

As you can see, pb claims 3 tours in Vietnam; something about Korea; something involving S or C America; Gulf War 1. How many years would that be Psycho?



Then we get these types of interesting posts:

http://usmessageboard.com/showthread.php?p=433915#post433915

http://usmessageboard.com/showthread.php?p=435054#post435054

http://usmessageboard.com/showthread.php?p=450786#post450786

Oh, and there's the 'third person' psycho posts that pop up, now and again:

http://usmessageboard.com/showthread.php?p=450799#post450799

Then of course, we get the 'I'm involved with writing in LA, you have no idea how important I am...'

So when it appears some of us jump a tad quick, well there are reasons. Not too mention his diatribes:

http://usmessageboard.com/showthread.php?p=450794#post450794

http://usmessageboard.com/showthread.php?p=435046#post435046

 

[Darwins Friend]

Don't be dissuaded by the likes of gunnyl. He is just lke his DI told him. He ain't shit. Psychoblues

You couldn’t be more wrong and you can’t fathom the amount of time and posts we’ve gone at each other in previous encounters.

He has a nose for meat that’s just beginning to go bad - so you need to watch what you claim. From my experience - his record is impeccable and he’s never given me much leeway in our little chats.

 

[Psychoblues]

You may have some respect for the POS but I don't and I am entitled as much to my opinion as he is his. He has never demonstrated to me on any subject that he knows anything about anything but he does demonstrate that he is fully capable of downright lies and unprovoked personal attack when he only simply disagrees.

You couldn’t be more wrong and you can’t fathom the amount of time and posts we’ve gone at each other in previous encounters.

He has a nose for meat that’s just beginning to go bad - so you need to watch what you claim. From my experience - his record is impeccable and he’s never given me much leeway in our little chats.

Psychoblues