2020 outlook

[Jitss617]

Should the vote count if they have illegals?

It should not.

Should a vote count if a foreign government has been shown to have influenced the results?

Still mad about those Facebook ads?

Of course. You're not upset that a foreign government was able to interfere with our presidential election?

Lol who was influenced?? We have 30 million illegals in America influencing our elections to benefit democrats.. where is your outrage?

 

[rightwinger]

Watch Trump's prediction about Governor of Kentucky - CNN Video

"You have to go vote. Because beyond even the governorship..." blah blah blah "...if you lose it sends a really bad message. YOU CAN'T LET THAT HAPPEN TO ME!"

Trump brought Bevins numbers up from 20 points down to too close to call

You mean he did for Bevin what he did for Roy Moore?

Again Trump brought Bevins numbers up instead of a blowout now it's too close to call

Bevins support of Trump hurt him in the suburbs

 

[Jitss617]

Watch Trump's prediction about Governor of Kentucky - CNN Video

"You have to go vote. Because beyond even the governorship..." blah blah blah "...if you lose it sends a really bad message. YOU CAN'T LET THAT HAPPEN TO ME!"

Trump brought Bevins numbers up from 20 points down to too close to call

You mean he did for Bevin what he did for Roy Moore?

Again Trump brought Bevins numbers up instead of a blowout now it's too close to call

Bevins support of Trump hurt him in the suburbs

The country was 98% red lol

 

[rightwinger]

Should the vote count if they have illegals?

It should not.

Should a vote count if a foreign government has been shown to have influenced the results?

Absolutely. I'm still waiting for someone to show where Russia actually had an actual, specific, measurable effect on the 2016 vote. I keep asking for someone to produce some people who publicly state that Russia media changed their vote! And less so, for anyone to show how it changed a single country, much less state.

How do they know if the information that influenced their vote came from the Russians?

 

[HappyJoy]

^Wingnut fantasies.

Facts, shitferbrains.

1) Assange has repeatedly stated that no state actor (that means a government, numbnutz) aided him in getting the information he had.

2) The data transfer rates from the DNC servers we to fast to have gone over the internet....They were downloaded at the source onto disks or thumb drives.

Assange is kind of an asshole, let's face it. I trust people better than you on your second point.

Whether or not Assange is an asshole is irrelevant.

People better and smarter than me about tech are the ones who have worked out the data transfer rates.

You have neither jack nor shit to support your crackpot RUSSIA! conspiracy lunacy.

By asshole I mean trustworthy, he already has an unhealthy relationship with Russia.

It's also not a 'crackpot' conspiracy theory if multiple agencies have found it to be so. To blame it on some insider would be the unfounded conspiracy.

First off, there is NO credible person on the planet that doubts the legitimacy of what is in the leaked emails.

The corporate and government media want every compulsory educated, brainwashed serf on the planet to argue about whether those emails were stolen by an insider, or hacked by Russians.

Do you know why? Because it distracts from the CONTENTS OF THE EMAILS, and their very, hugely corrupt and damaging implications.

Defenders of the establishment, the DNC, the Democrats and liberals probably need to go back and read them. Otherwise, they are living in an alternate reality.

THE CONTENTS ARE FAR MORE IMPORTANT THAN WHERE THE HELL THEY CAME FROM.

Nobody influenced the election more than the corrupt DNC and Hillary herself. If they weren't? There would be no slime to reveal.

It is that fucking simple.

Nothing has been revealed, leaked or whistle blown on Trump that is as disgusting as what was released in those Wikileaks emails.

Arguing about whether it was a leak or a hack is a giant distraction from the fact that you should run as from away from such a loathsome bunch of creepy corrupt people as run the DNC, THAT WE ALREADY KNOW ABOUT.

The contents of the email was kind vanilla compared to what's going on now. Most people don't even remember what was in them.

 

[HappyJoy]

^Wingnut fantasies.

Facts, shitferbrains.

1) Assange has repeatedly stated that no state actor (that means a government, numbnutz) aided him in getting the information he had.

2) The data transfer rates from the DNC servers we to fast to have gone over the internet....They were downloaded at the source onto disks or thumb drives.

Assange is kind of an asshole, let's face it. I trust people better than you on your second point.

Whether or not Assange is an asshole is irrelevant.

People better and smarter than me about tech are the ones who have worked out the data transfer rates.

You have neither jack nor shit to support your crackpot RUSSIA! conspiracy lunacy.

By asshole I mean trustworthy, he already has an unhealthy relationship with Russia.

It's also not a 'crackpot' conspiracy theory if multiple agencies have found it to be so. To blame it on some insider would be the unfounded conspiracy.

Who do you trust more, Trump or Komrad Brennan and Mr. Clapper?
I'm waiting for Barr, Huber, Durham and Horowitz to finally tell us WTF happened with regards to Russia and Ukraine.

Trump will and has lied about almost everything, big and small.

 

[kyzr]

Imagine if the Russians had decided to leak the email exchanges with Don Trump, Jr. informing him that Russia was trying to help his dad get elected. Imagine if they leaked his "I love it" response.

This is what I mean about selective leaks, dipshits.

Imagine if the world knew that while Trump was parading those women at the press conference, he was simultaneously arranging illegal payments to his own mistresses.

If all the dirt on BOTH candidates had been made public, Clinton would have had a 49 state streak.

Imagine if the Russians and/or Chinese leaked any of the hacked 30,000 missing classified emails from Hillary's illegal bathroom server? Can you spell "kompromat" ?

Trump's payments were NOT illegal Dershowitz: Trump 'Absolutely' Did Nothing Wrong With Payments

Maybe Comey realized that the kompromat on Hillary was worse than Trump and so he played up the bathroom server thing, even if he gave her a pass on "intent'? Otherwise I don't get why the FBI didn't just put the clamps on the bathroom server and just let the election play out.

 

[bendog]

All you need to know about 2020 is that Trump is running against the democrats and Vegas has the following odds, with Trump the 2:1 favorite to win:
Donald Trump +130
Elizabeth Warren +275
Joe Biden +600
Pete Buttigieg +1200

So the democrats have lousy candidates, and even worse policies.
Here are many policies that the democrat candidates have supported:
1. Open borders, tear down the southern border fence/wall
2. Sanctuary cities & states
3. Free college
4. "Medicare for all", aka rationed healthcare, "Lois Lerners" in charge, and hospitals closing
5. Eliminate ICE and DHS, turn the US into the EU, with muslim "no go zones" and Sharia Law
6. Promote Globalism, whatever Wall Street wants Wall Street gets, see K-Street Cash
7. Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries
8. Stupid trade agreements, e.g tax breaks to move factories overseas
9. Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property theft
10. Let NK develop nukes and ICBM delivery systems, have no one capable of dealing with NK
11. Raise taxes to 70% on the wealthy, especially on corporations so they relocate overseas
12. Opioid problem running rampant across the US
13. Gangs like MS-13 running rampant across the US
14. No steel or mining industries due to foreign "dumping" of subsidized products
15. No new pipelines
16. No offshore drilling
17. The dems' "Central Committee" appoints super-delegates to subvert real voters in primaries
18. Pack the US Supreme Court to promote liberal policies
19. Impeach anyone they deem not liberal enough, like Kavanaugh
20. Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives
21. Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump
22. Block voter ID laws to ensure fraud, and promote "vote harvesting" to steal elections
23. Refuse to provide funding for border walls/security, which DHS says is desperately needed.
24. Give $Trillions to Mexico and Central America for a Marshal Plan, but not help US citizens living in tent cities
25. Impose gun control, outlaw private gun sales, outlaw AR style rifles, restrict sales of bullets, etc.
26. "Green New Deal" Impose a "carbon tax" to punish anyone who works, heats their home, flies, or has a car
27. Anti-business democrat socialists caused Amazon to flee NYC taking 25,000 good paying jobs to VA
28. REPARATIONS to blacks to pay for slavery, $trillions owed by US voters
29. Excuse the murder of unwanted newborns, i.e. "infanticide"
30. Change the Electoral College to popular vote
31. All prisoners get to vote, even the Boston Marathon Bomber, so says Bernie
32. LGBTQ rights, trannys in military
33. Hunt down suspected white supremacists, increase domestic surveillance
34. Add Senators and congressmen for DC and Puerto Rico
35. Be sure that any "red flag" laws exclude gang members (only get those rural guns)
36. Full welfare and free healthcare for illegal immigrants

This list is amazing.

It's one thing to be wrong but it's another to outright lie to make your case. At least 25 of these contain outright lies.

I personally like this one -
33. Hunt down suspected white supremacists, increase domestic surveillance

Really gives you a glimpse into the mindset of who this list is geared towards.

"How dare they hunt down WHITE supremacists! They should be focused on those dirty brown ones."

Vegas tilts odds towards the "team" objectively most likely to lose so that more bet on that team, and that is how Vegas makes money

Well that and the Democrats all have to go through a primary election which helps Trump's odds.

Well, I'd think that normally a primary would improve dems' chances by winnowing out unpopular ideas, but the problem is that the dems (and Trump's party) may be so enamoured with policies popular to them but unpopular to the majority … that we're fucked no matter who wins.

What will fuck us more than anything will prolly be what fucked us the last time ----- voters checking the box on the basis of "I've heard of this guy, I've seen him on TV, all hail TV, TV is my Master, must ... obey...TV".

--which reminds us that POTUS elections are all about marketing and advertising, which in turn reminds us that advertising is the process of persuading the masses to buy stuff they don't need.

As well as the age-old truism that "nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public".

Well, imo, most voters have rational reasons for voting. We may not agree with them. Here in Miss I think one visit by Jr, two by Pence and at least one by Orange made sure the goper won as governor, and the Trump message was the dem candidate didn't stand by Trump against the Dems' attempts to steal his 16 election. The 16 election didn't have to do anything to the governor election, and the dem was a blue dog pro gun anti abortion ex-prosecutor with a record on cracking down on domestic abuse and child porn, and the issues were the dems wanted to save rural healthcare with no cost to taxpayers and a small road tax … both of which are popular to about 60%. The republican was going to win regardless, but Trump's argument hit a chord.

But the winner has to control the message. Bill Clinton was really good at that. So was Obama v. Romney. W was good too.

But this election is going to be decided by at most 2 million, and more likely one million, in Wisc, Mich, Pa and Fla. And single payer, freecollege, open borders and class warfare isn't gonna get those people. In 16, Hillary's corruption and the interventions by Comey and Putin didn't let her get those voters. Trump's going to have voter enthusiasm. And Trump's proven he can motivate dem voters too.

 

[MisterBeale]

Imagine if the Russians had decided to leak the email exchanges with Don Trump, Jr. informing him that Russia was trying to help his dad get elected. Imagine if they leaked his "I love it" response.

This is what I mean about selective leaks, dipshits.

Imagine if the world knew that while Trump was parading those women at the press conference, he was simultaneously arranging illegal payments to his own mistresses.

If all the dirt on BOTH candidates had been made public, Clinton would have had a 49 state streak.

Wow, you are such a liar.

It is not illegal to personally pay folks to keep quiet about an affair.

When partisans decide to define such as a "campaign expenditure?"

You really are a piece of work.


Democrat politicians have done the same thing for decades, and none of them have ever been fined for such a thing. Go get a life.


Stop trying to distract folks.

Everyone knows that the Clintons and DNC are way more corrupt. Get real.

WikiLeaks’ 10 Most Damning Clinton Emails that Prove Mainstream Media is Scripted & Controlled
WikiLeaks' 10 Most Damning Clinton Emails that Prove Mainstream Media is Scripted & Controlled

". . . With knowledge of what is currently transpiring, here are the ten most damning Clinton emails regarding the media’s collusion with her presidential campaign, with hotlinks to the original WikiLeaks release.

1. Clinton Staff hosts private “off-the-record cocktail party” with 38 “influential” reporters, journalists, editors, and anchors (from 16 different mainstream media outlets including CNN, NBC, CBS, NYT, MSNBC, & more) with the stated goal of “framing the race.”

2. Donna Brazile (CNN contributor at the time, and current DNC Chairman now) leaked CNN town hall questions to Hillary Clinton’s staff prior to the debate.

3. Clinton campaign and the New York Times coordinating attack strategy against Trump.

4. Glen Thrush, POLITICO’s chief political correspondent and senior staff writer for POLITICO Magazine, sends John Podesta an article for his approval. Writes: “Please don’t share or tell anyone I did this. Tell me if I fucked up anything.”

5. Huffington Post contributor Frank Islam writes to John Podesta in an email titled “My blogs in the Huffington Post”, says “I am committed to make sure she is elected the next president.” “Please let me know if I can be of any service to you.”

6. Clinton staffer “Placing a story” with Politico / New York Times: “place a story with a friendly journalist” “we have a very good relationship with Maggie Haberman of Politico” “we should shape likely leaks in the best light for HRC.”

7. John Podesta receiving drafts of New York Times articles before they’re published.

Clinton staff “placing a story with a friendly at the AP (Matt Lee or Bradley Klapper).”

More media collusion: NYT and AP “helpful” to Clinton campaign.

8. Clinton staff colluding with New York Times and Wall Street Journal to paint Hillary’s economic policies in a “progressive” light.

9. CNBC panelist colluding with John Podesta on what to ask Trump when he calls in for an interview.

10. Clinton staff appearing to control the release times of Associated Press articles.. . . . "

 

[toobfreak]

Should the vote count if they have illegals?

It should not.

Should a vote count if a foreign government has been shown to have influenced the results?

Absolutely. I'm still waiting for someone to show where Russia actually had an actual, specific, measurable effect on the 2016 vote. I keep asking for someone to produce some people who publicly state that Russia media changed their vote! And less so, for anyone to show how it changed a single country, much less state.

How do they know if the information that influenced their vote came from the Russians?

Good question.

How do I know you didn't influence my vote and that you are a Russian???

 

[bendog]

When partisans decide to define such as a "campaign expenditure?"

You can't pay the ho the slush out of campaign money without it being a campaign expenditure. LOL you partisan hack.

 

[kyzr]

Facts, shitferbrains.

1) Assange has repeatedly stated that no state actor (that means a government, numbnutz) aided him in getting the information he had.

2) The data transfer rates from the DNC servers we to fast to have gone over the internet....They were downloaded at the source onto disks or thumb drives.

Assange is kind of an asshole, let's face it. I trust people better than you on your second point.

Whether or not Assange is an asshole is irrelevant.

People better and smarter than me about tech are the ones who have worked out the data transfer rates.

You have neither jack nor shit to support your crackpot RUSSIA! conspiracy lunacy.

By asshole I mean trustworthy, he already has an unhealthy relationship with Russia.

It's also not a 'crackpot' conspiracy theory if multiple agencies have found it to be so. To blame it on some insider would be the unfounded conspiracy.

Who do you trust more, Trump or Komrad Brennan and Mr. Clapper?
I'm waiting for Barr, Huber, Durham and Horowitz to finally tell us WTF happened with regards to Russia and Ukraine.

Trump will and has lied about almost everything, big and small.

Agreed. Trump is a serial exaggerator, and lies all the time. Makes you wonder if you'd want to do business with him? Then again, he prospered in the toughest city in the world, so he's no dummy. Which is why we sent him to DC, to rub the establishment's nose in their swamp shit.
No matter what they can't stop him, that's the up side, a re-boot for the DC swamp, who were getting too powerful.

 

[rightwinger]

Should the vote count if they have illegals?

It should not.

Should a vote count if a foreign government has been shown to have influenced the results?

Absolutely. I'm still waiting for someone to show where Russia actually had an actual, specific, measurable effect on the 2016 vote. I keep asking for someone to produce some people who publicly state that Russia media changed their vote! And less so, for anyone to show how it changed a single country, much less state.

How do they know if the information that influenced their vote came from the Russians?

Good question.

How do I know you didn't influence my vote and that you are a Russian???

Nyet!

 

[g5000]

Imagine if the Russians had decided to leak the email exchanges with Don Trump, Jr. informing him that Russia was trying to help his dad get elected. Imagine if they leaked his "I love it" response.

This is what I mean about selective leaks, dipshits.

Imagine if the world knew that while Trump was parading those women at the press conference, he was simultaneously arranging illegal payments to his own mistresses.

If all the dirt on BOTH candidates had been made public, Clinton would have had a 49 state streak.

Wow, you are such a liar.

It is not illegal to personally pay folks to keep quiet about an affair.

The payment was made illegally. It was an illegal campaign contribution. That's one of the reasons Cohen went to jail.

Prosecutors Say Trump Directed Illegal Payments During Campaign

All caught up now?

 

[HappyJoy]

Assange is kind of an asshole, let's face it. I trust people better than you on your second point.

Whether or not Assange is an asshole is irrelevant.

People better and smarter than me about tech are the ones who have worked out the data transfer rates.

You have neither jack nor shit to support your crackpot RUSSIA! conspiracy lunacy.

By asshole I mean trustworthy, he already has an unhealthy relationship with Russia.

It's also not a 'crackpot' conspiracy theory if multiple agencies have found it to be so. To blame it on some insider would be the unfounded conspiracy.

Who do you trust more, Trump or Komrad Brennan and Mr. Clapper?
I'm waiting for Barr, Huber, Durham and Horowitz to finally tell us WTF happened with regards to Russia and Ukraine.

Trump will and has lied about almost everything, big and small.

Agreed. Trump is a serial exaggerator, and lies all the time. Makes you wonder if you'd want to do business with him? Then again, he prospered in the toughest city in the world, so he's no dummy. Which is why we sent him to DC, to rub the establishment's nose in their swamp shit.
No matter what they can't stop him, that's the up side, a re-boot for the DC swamp, who were getting too powerful.

He ripped a lot of people off and lost more money than any other American in a 10 year period. New York built Trump (well, and daddy's money) Trump did not build New York. And yes, he's dumb. He's also his own swamp and he's not rooting out any corruption in DC either. Why you guys buy this dog and pony show I have no idea.

 

[MisterBeale]

Facts, shitferbrains.

1) Assange has repeatedly stated that no state actor (that means a government, numbnutz) aided him in getting the information he had.

2) The data transfer rates from the DNC servers we to fast to have gone over the internet....They were downloaded at the source onto disks or thumb drives.

Assange is kind of an asshole, let's face it. I trust people better than you on your second point.

Whether or not Assange is an asshole is irrelevant.

People better and smarter than me about tech are the ones who have worked out the data transfer rates.

You have neither jack nor shit to support your crackpot RUSSIA! conspiracy lunacy.

By asshole I mean trustworthy, he already has an unhealthy relationship with Russia.

It's also not a 'crackpot' conspiracy theory if multiple agencies have found it to be so. To blame it on some insider would be the unfounded conspiracy.

First off, there is NO credible person on the planet that doubts the legitimacy of what is in the leaked emails.

The corporate and government media want every compulsory educated, brainwashed serf on the planet to argue about whether those emails were stolen by an insider, or hacked by Russians.

Do you know why? Because it distracts from the CONTENTS OF THE EMAILS, and their very, hugely corrupt and damaging implications.

Defenders of the establishment, the DNC, the Democrats and liberals probably need to go back and read them. Otherwise, they are living in an alternate reality.

THE CONTENTS ARE FAR MORE IMPORTANT THAN WHERE THE HELL THEY CAME FROM.

Nobody influenced the election more than the corrupt DNC and Hillary herself. If they weren't? There would be no slime to reveal.

It is that fucking simple.

Nothing has been revealed, leaked or whistle blown on Trump that is as disgusting as what was released in those Wikileaks emails.

Arguing about whether it was a leak or a hack is a giant distraction from the fact that you should run as from away from such a loathsome bunch of creepy corrupt people as run the DNC, THAT WE ALREADY KNOW ABOUT.

The contents of the email was kind vanilla compared to what's going on now. Most people don't even remember what was in them.

Well, I would disagree, the contents were far more explosive.

OTH, yes, you are right, folks have been completely gaslit, they DON'T remember or know. THAT is the whole point. Focus them on, and distract them with a made up Russian story, and make them forget about the real important stuff, i.e. the contents of those emails.

The main thrust of them were about Hillary lying about who she is, taking huge campaign contributions from the tech sector and Wall-street, and her campaign controlling the entire media establishment to get elected.

 

[MisterBeale]

Imagine if the Russians had decided to leak the email exchanges with Don Trump, Jr. informing him that Russia was trying to help his dad get elected. Imagine if they leaked his "I love it" response.

This is what I mean about selective leaks, dipshits.

Imagine if the world knew that while Trump was parading those women at the press conference, he was simultaneously arranging illegal payments to his own mistresses.

If all the dirt on BOTH candidates had been made public, Clinton would have had a 49 state streak.

Wow, you are such a liar.

It is not illegal to personally pay folks to keep quiet about an affair.

The payment was made illegally. It was an illegal campaign contribution. That's one of the reasons Cohen went to jail.

Prosecutors Say Trump Directed Illegal Payments During Campaign

All caught up now?

Nope, it's pay walled.

I don't pay for CIA/government propaganda.

Sorry.

 

[g5000]

Imagine if the Russians had decided to leak the email exchanges with Don Trump, Jr. informing him that Russia was trying to help his dad get elected. Imagine if they leaked his "I love it" response.

This is what I mean about selective leaks, dipshits.

Imagine if the world knew that while Trump was parading those women at the press conference, he was simultaneously arranging illegal payments to his own mistresses.

If all the dirt on BOTH candidates had been made public, Clinton would have had a 49 state streak.

Wow, you are such a liar.

It is not illegal to personally pay folks to keep quiet about an affair.

The payment was made illegally. It was an illegal campaign contribution. That's one of the reasons Cohen went to jail.

Prosecutors Say Trump Directed Illegal Payments During Campaign

All caught up now?

Nope, it's pay walled.

I don't pay for CIA/government propaganda.

Sorry.

So your own propagandists have kept you in the dark about this.

Fascinating reveal you just made!


"CIA propaganda" BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

 

[g5000]

I keep saying these tards live in a cave, kept in the dark by their propagandists. How does one NOT know Cohen is in jail for illegally paying off Stormy Daniels?

Michael Cohen admits violating campaign finance laws in plea deal, agrees to 3-5 year sentence

Trump directed Michael Cohen to make illegal hush money payments, prosecutors claim

How Michael Cohen broke campaign finance law

 

[HappyJoy]

Assange is kind of an asshole, let's face it. I trust people better than you on your second point.

Whether or not Assange is an asshole is irrelevant.

People better and smarter than me about tech are the ones who have worked out the data transfer rates.

You have neither jack nor shit to support your crackpot RUSSIA! conspiracy lunacy.

By asshole I mean trustworthy, he already has an unhealthy relationship with Russia.

It's also not a 'crackpot' conspiracy theory if multiple agencies have found it to be so. To blame it on some insider would be the unfounded conspiracy.

First off, there is NO credible person on the planet that doubts the legitimacy of what is in the leaked emails.

The corporate and government media want every compulsory educated, brainwashed serf on the planet to argue about whether those emails were stolen by an insider, or hacked by Russians.

Do you know why? Because it distracts from the CONTENTS OF THE EMAILS, and their very, hugely corrupt and damaging implications.

Defenders of the establishment, the DNC, the Democrats and liberals probably need to go back and read them. Otherwise, they are living in an alternate reality.

THE CONTENTS ARE FAR MORE IMPORTANT THAN WHERE THE HELL THEY CAME FROM.

Nobody influenced the election more than the corrupt DNC and Hillary herself. If they weren't? There would be no slime to reveal.

It is that fucking simple.

Nothing has been revealed, leaked or whistle blown on Trump that is as disgusting as what was released in those Wikileaks emails.

Arguing about whether it was a leak or a hack is a giant distraction from the fact that you should run as from away from such a loathsome bunch of creepy corrupt people as run the DNC, THAT WE ALREADY KNOW ABOUT.

The contents of the email was kind vanilla compared to what's going on now. Most people don't even remember what was in them.

Well, I would disagree, the contents were far more explosive.

OTH, yes, you are right, folks have been completely gaslit, they DON'T remember or know. THAT is the whole point. Focus them on, and distract them with a made up Russian story, and make them forget about the real important stuff, i.e. the contents of those emails.

The main thrust of them were about Hillary lying about who she is, taking huge campaign contributions from the tech sector and Wall-street, and her campaign controlling the entire media establishment to get elected.

How is it made up if it happened?