2016 National Democratic Primary

[CrusaderFrank]

Biden is Missing in Action because he's planning to run as an outsider and it has a fair chance of working because most of the Dem base (not the USMB Lunatics) can't pick him out of a police line up. They think he's the Nutty Uncle on some reality TV show

 

[Truthmatters]

Supreme Court denies RNC bid to end voter fraud consent decree - Los Angeles Times


well it all depends on how well the republicans can cheat this go arround

 

[WillowTree]

Supreme Court denies RNC bid to end voter fraud consent decree - Los Angeles Times


well it all depends on how well the republicans can cheat this go arround

Citizen's United We Stand.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I think Hillary is a safe candidate for the Democrats in 2016. She is well known, respected (except from the right), experienced and a woman

But she has been in the public eye for 25 years. She is no longer inspiring and seems like a tired old lady.

If Republicans can put out a candidate who is young, dynamic and has a vision of the future that inspires the middle class....they can win
But if Republicans pull out their anti-Hillary playbook and start spouting Whitewater, blowjobs and Benghazi they will turn Hillary into a victim and will turn off voters

Hillary is the establishment and will get creamed by outsider Biden

 

[Toro]

I'd very strongly prefer neither a Bush nor a Clinton be President in 2017.

Banana Republics have hereditary aristocracies. America should not.

 

[American_Jihad]

I think Hillary is a safe candidate for the Democrats in 2016. She is well known, respected (except from the right), experienced and a woman

But she has been in the public eye for 25 years. She is no longer inspiring and seems like a tired old lady.

If Republicans can put out a candidate who is young, dynamic and has a vision of the future that inspires the middle class....they can win
But if Republicans pull out their anti-Hillary playbook and start spouting Whitewater, blowjobs and Benghazi they will turn Hillary into a victim and will turn off voters

Hillary is the establishment and will get creamed by outsider Biden

ROLMAO Hey stupid---> Joe Biden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Statistikhengst]

We could do a lot worse than OMalley

But the nomination is Hillary's for he asking. The key will be who she picks as VP. Whoever she picks will be heir apparent once Hillary leaves

I'm thinking Elisabeth Warren or Corey Booker

Julian Castro. He is the future of the Democratic Party. As much as I like Elisabeth Warren, she would likely be poison to the ticket. Booker wouldn't be a bad choice, but here is what you need to think about. What does putting Warren or Booker on the ticket do for the ticket? Booker wins you NJ most likely. Of course, unless Christie is the Republican nominee, NJ goes Dem no matter what.

What happens if you put Castro on the ticket? Number one, you get Hispanics excited nationally which will help register more Hispanics than ever before and get more to vote than ever before. In Texas, it puts Texas in play. While a Clinton/Castro ticket still may not win Texas, it would make the state close enough that the Republican candidate would be forced to spend a lot of time there campaigning. This would take money and the Republican candidate's time away from other states. Having to defend Texas would be devastating for any Republican campaign.

yepp: I see Clinton / Castro as a stong possibility. There is also strong historical precedence for a keynote speaker to a national convention ending up on the national ticket not long after

Bill Clinton - keynote 88
Barack Obama - keynote 04

Christie - keynote 12
Castro - keynote 12

Wouldn't be surprised at all to see Castro on the ticket. It would also re-open the whack-a-mole strategy that Obama used so well in 2008 against McCain: as soon as McCain thought he may have locked down a state, it was competitive again. Plus, if you are a Republican, you know you are likely to lose when the networks cannot call Indiana for your ticket.

Your assessment of the Latino vote is correct. A strong Latino candidate on a national ticket would absolutely awaken the sleeping giant that is the Latino vote.

Of course, the Republicans could do this too, but then I wonder how many bigots would stay home and not vote for the GOP ticket out of pure hate and anger...

 

[American_Jihad]

15 Questions You Won't Hear in a Democratic Debate
Will Democrats ever confront the truth?
December 24, 2015
Larry Elder

1) Polls show that, by a large margin, Americans feel we're on the wrong track, both economically and as to foreign policy. Yet none of you offers any criticism of President Barack Obama, who has been in charge for the last seven years. Why, then, should Americans believe that four more years, under your leadership, would be any different from the last seven?

2) Sen. Sanders, you've called for a $15-per-hour minimum wage. But even Vice President Joe Biden's economist, Jared Bernstein, considers a $15 hourly rate so high that it would cause an unacceptable loss of jobs. Is he wrong?

3) Secretary Clinton, you advocate "debt-free tuition," and Sen. Sanders, you want free universal health coverage and paid family medical leave. You both say that you can accomplish this by raising taxes on the rich. But isn't it true that if you completely confiscated the earnings of the top 1 percent, you couldn't fund the current obligations of the federal government, let alone the new programs you want?

4) Sen. Sanders, you blame the 2007-2008 economic crisis, in part, on the removal of a part of Glass-Steagall, a 1933 depression-era regulation that prevented banks from engaging in both traditional banking and investment banking. President Bill Clinton is the one who got rid of it. He still stands by that decision, and believes it had nothing to do with the Wall Street/banking meltdown. Why is he wrong, but you are right?

5) Secretary Clinton, you described the higher premiums and higher deductibles — under Obamacare — as "glitches." But don't these "glitches" mean that Obamacare is failing to realize many of its objectives?

6) United Healthcare, the nation's largest insurer, says its past support for Obamacare was a mistake, is losing money under Obamacare, and now says it may pull out altogether. Again, doesn't that say that Obamacare is failing to achieve its main objectives?

7) Secretary Clinton, the U.S. joined with the French and the British in bombing Libya to depose Moammar Gadhafi. You've justified this by noting he was a tyrant and his departure meant that Libya could have free elections. Wasn't Saddam Hussein of Iraq a tyrant, and didn't the Iraqis have free elections after he was deposed by our invasion? Why is Libya OK, but Iraq a foreign policy blunder?

8) You've all criticized the Iraq war as a blunder because President George W. Bush ignored the unintended consequences of deposing a strong man who held the country together.

Didn't President Jimmy Carter do the same thing when he pushed the shah of Iran to release what Carter called "political prisoners" — which we now call radical jihadists? This led directly to the current Islamic Republic of Iran. Does Jimmy Carter get a pass for his nation building because he is a Democrat?

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15 Questions You Won't Hear in a Democratic Debate

 

[American_Jihad]

SICK, OLD DEMOCRAT SAYS OTHEROTHER DEMOCRAT IS TOO SICK, OLD TO BE PRESIDENT

January 17, 2016

Daniel Greenfield

Hillary Clinton is in real trouble so she's going to the mattresses against Bernie Sanders. Unfortunately the mattresses belong to David Brock so they're memory foam and scented with lilac and madness.

A top surrogate for Hillary Clinton is prepping a new attack in an intensifying and increasingly personal war against rival Bernie Sanders — calling on the 74-year-old to release his medical records before the Iowa caucuses on Feb. 1.

Clinton defender David Brock — founder of the Correct the Record PAC, which coordinates directly with Clinton’s campaign — is expected to hit the airwaves this weekend from Charleston, the scene of the third Democratic debate on Sunday night, and challenge Sanders to cough up a clean bill of health and doctor’s note in the next 16 days, according to a Democrat familiar with his thinking who was not authorized to preview any strategy.
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That might be a better line of attack if Hillary Clinton wasn't living in a glass house as far as health and age are concerned. Instead David Brock has decided to play up age and health in a race where his candidate is old and has been associated with all sorts of medical problems.

At best this comes down to two old and sick Democrats arguing which of them is older and sicker.
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I have no idea what billionaires have to do with Bernie Sanders being old. But it's not like this campaign season is remotely rational anyway. So we're now debating whether the country would be better off with a candidate on the way to 70 or a candidate about to hit 75.

Can't we just focus on the issues? Like who's going to send more Americans to gulags and destroy more of the economy?

Sick, Old Democrat Says Other Other Democrat is Too Sick, Old to be President

 

[American_Jihad]

Who Wants to Be America's Top Socialist: Wisconsin Edition
The only thing we have to fear are senile leftists repeating memorized speeches.
February 12, 2016
Daniel Greenfield

PBS, a venerable leftist institution long since past its prime, hosted two other leftist institutions past their prime, Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton, for the special Wisconsin edition of the Democratic Party’s newest hit show, Who Wants to Be America's Top Socialist.

“I believe in government,” Bernie Sanders declared. And that was the theme for the night.

A political party that does not believe in G-d or that 2 + 2 = 4 believes in and passionately loves government. Its perverted love affair with government gave birth to two political hacks who couldn’t manage to mow the lawn without setting it on fire, but who want to run the country and the world.

In an eye-meltingly mustard yellow jacket, the uniform of some alien space armada invading the planet, Hillary Clinton glared balefully into the camera and promised the nation twice as much free stuff in return for their submission to her ruthless rule. Bernie Sanders, who kept coughing as if he might not live through the debate, never mind the election, upped the ante to three times as much free stuff.

“Let’s not insult the intelligence of the American people,” Bernie Sanders insisted. “People aren't dumb.” The American people might not be dumb, but his voting base, which believes it can get free stuff without ever having to pay for it, still doesn’t understand how math works.

“I feel like we have to level with people,” Hillary Clinton said, while dodging and denying multiple investigations. The only time she has leveled with anyone is while running them over with her car.

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There was one relevant question. In an unprecedented move, Hillary Clinton was asked about taking money from George Soros. And you didn’t have to be the old Nazi collaborator himself to gamble correctly that she would duck the question like the world’s tallest man at a limbo contest.

The first rule of puppetry is never admit to the existence of the puppeteer. And despite Bernie’s hollow rants about the 1 percent, he never spoke the name of the progressive Voldemort either.

"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself," Sanders said, quoting FDR, before calling for redefining the role of government, but the debate suggested at least two other things that Americans should also fear.

Who Wants to Be America's Top Socialist: Wisconsin Edition