2012 Vice Presidential Debate Thread

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    very true. well even better new for conservative after usa today poll so did not help obama

    he 51 % to 45% up. Jake tapper of abc news said this is awful for obama on twitter and show romney mo getting bigger and bigger.

    is this thing over now
     
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    This one was different though. You had Biden who gets it wrong as often as he gets it right, a perpetual gaffe machine who can't remember facts straight to save his life, going up against a bright, capable, very well informed, and no doubt very well prepared Ryan who WOULD remember the facts and report them competently. A sure prescription for a total train wreck in a normal debate and that the Obama campaign no doubt simply could not risk. But neither could they afford how it would look for Biden to refuse to debate Ryan.

    So the solution? Just send Joe out as laughing Joe to make sure Ryan wasn't allowed to drive home a single point. And, as you pointed out, Radditz did not shy away from shutting Ryan down, cutting him off, interjecting her own follow up before he had even finished his sentence. She did not do that to Biden though she did give the appearance of enforcing time during the times he could speak--you know when he could speak unimpeded without somebody covering up his words?

    Was that by design. My cynical side says probably because it was the only way they had to do damage control. Maybe not. But I'm long past believing they couldn't go that low.
     
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    Sending Biden out with orders to disrupt the debate and keep Ryan off balance was definitely by design. The Obama campaign either has Biden do "that" or they let him debate Paul Ryan on the economy and it should be fairly obvious at this point that Joe Biden isn't the sharpest tool in the shed so that AIN'T happening!

    The Obama Camp only gets away with that strategy if A) they have a moderator that allows Biden to play the buffoon and B) they can control the subsequent media reporting to declare Biden the "winner" of a debate that never was. With Radditz they had the former and with the Main Stream Media they got the latter.

    What I'm curious to see is how Barry conducts himself during his second debate. I don't think he can pull off the "Crazy Joe" routine. If he was to try that he'd look like an asshole. I'm guessing he's going to tell "fairy tales" about how things are and how things could be...be as vague as he possibly can and hope nobody really grills him about what happened in Libya. There's no way he's going to run on his record because it's THAT bad.
     
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    This morning it appears that the voters finally have gotten from MR a reason to not vote for a less than competent president.

    Mitt is going to win this election because the centerists and independents are moving over to him, which is going to free him from the extreme libertarian and far right wings of American politics.

    Mitt, do this right! Exclude the far right and libertarian wings from any policy making in the administration. Isolate Ryan as the veep and then replace him in four years, as you build a right of center great coalition and bring America back to greatness.
     
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