2012 Vice Presidential Debate Thread

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    Why don't you sight the law that was being broken.
     
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    Discuss the content? You know what's laughable? Matt Taibbi accuses Paul Ryan of lying and says that Joe Biden was right to laugh and mug for the camera and repeatedly interrupt Ryan. What Taibbi totally "whiffed" on is the fact that it was Biden who was telling the lies...not Ryan. Biden is the one who declared that he hadn't voted for either the war in Iraq or the war in Afghanistan when in fact he had voted for BOTH! It was Biden who declared that the entire fiasco in Benghazi was the fault of the nation's intelligence community because neither he nor the President knew anything about additional requests for security from Ambassador Stevens or that the attack wasn't a reaction to the U-Tube video. Joe Biden sat on that stage and lied repeatedly and Martha Raddatz let him get away with it because let's face it folks...Martha Raddatz is a liberal journalist and she was predisposed to let that happen...just as Jim Lehrer is a liberal journalist and Candy Crowley is a liberal journalist. The fact of the matter is that conservatives like Ryan and Romney go into these debates with a handicap because the moderators are not unbiased. What would reaction be from the left if all of the moderators were from Fox News or The National Review? They would go ballistic and rightly so...yet here we are with moderators that all lean to the left and that's OK?
     
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    Actually, laughing the way Biden did during Ryan's "misstatements" was the POLITE thing to do. Think about it. He probably wanted to turn to Ryan and yell: "That's a God damn LIE, you fucking LIAR!!!!" Now, if he had done that, your criticism of him would be justified. But he didn't. He just laughed to show his disdain for what Ryan was saying.
     
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    I'd sight it for you, but it isn't in sight yet. Maybe if we hunt around enough, we might be able to find someone who can cite the law for us, ya think?

    And you call someone else "shit-for-brains"?
     
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    Partisan tripe.

    The VP was rude and the constant interruption of Ryan demonstrated that he wanted to shout down the points that were being made. And that's clearly because the dishonest VP had no honest or persuasive rejoinders.

    The liberals' "defense" of Biden's behavior is strictly laughable.

    And that some Democratics still imagine that VP Biden "won" the debate is pure partisan hackery. The pathetic "defense" of VP Biden's "performance is fFunny, but completely devoid of truth.
     
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    Laughing during someone else's time during a debate is "POLITE"? Come on...get serious! That's as far from polite as you can get. Polite is waiting your turn and then making a response on YOUR time...it isn't talking over the other person...it isn't laughing or mugging for the camera while the other person is speaking.

    Joe Biden laughed while Paul Ryan was speaking because he was trying to intimidate his opponent. You know as well as I do that what we witnessed on that stage was planned. What Joe Biden did was what the Obama Campaign decided was the best way to counter the attacks on their abysmal economic record...namely distract from it. They don't have a credible defense for the state of the economy and Romney/Ryan hammer them with the numbers over and over again so instead of trying to debate the issues they sent Joe Biden out there to disrupt the proceedings with the side show he put on.

    The "disdain" that was shown was for the American people. We deserved a debate on the issues by two serious people. Instead what we got was Joe Biden playing the class clown because his side doesn't really want to talk about serious issues because his side has no answers TO those serious issues.
     
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    Yup. And mission accomplished. Few remember anything Ryan said during the debate because everything he tried to say was covered by Biden's guffawing, snickering, raucous laughter, mugging, and verbal interruptions. All any of us really remember is that aspect of the debate. Of course it was orchestrated and planned that way, and no doubt arranged with the moderator to allow it as she never once attempted to try to curtail it.

    It is a really sad commentary on the Obama camp that they thought this tactic was safer than allowing a debate between Joe Biden and Paul Ryan. They (apparently rightfully) trusted their base to approve the tactic, defend Biden, or at least justify and forgive him as it always does.
     
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    It is in sight, yet?
     
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    If you think Biden's behavor was orchestrated with the moderator, Foxfyre, you are becoming delusional.

    You are becoming a sad yet accurate facsimile of the libertarian wing and the extremist wing descending into unreality.
     
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    If Martha Raddatz had REALLY wanted a debate, Jake...she would have given Joe Biden a short lecture on debate etiquette and told him to refrain from what he was doing. His actions went so far across the line that it's something that should have been done but in Raddatz's defense I'm sure she had no inkling that a Vice President of the United States would act in such a way and was hesitant to lecture him like you would a disruptive schoolboy making farting noises in the back of class.
     

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