Mr. Shaman
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America's survived bad presidents before, but not like him, and for two terms. I'd have to contemplate the unthinkable- leaving her
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America's survived bad presidents before, but not like him, and for two terms. I'd have to contemplate the unthinkable- leaving her
America's survived bad presidents before, but not like him, and for two terms. I'd have to contemplate the unthinkable- leaving her
US adds 103,000 new jobs as unemployment rate unchanged | Business | guardian.co.ukThe increase in employment partially reflected the return to payrolls of about 45,000 Verizon telecoms workers who had been on strike in August. The number of unemployed people, at 14 million, remained essentially unchanged in September.
Hillary is only part of the story, dumbshit.Longtime democrat strategists Pat Caddell and Doug Schoen completely disagree.
Patrick Caddell and Douglas Schoen: The Hillary Moment - WSJ.com
But you Boiking fluffers keep living your lie...It's becoming quite amusing.
Hillary won't run she knows she can't win the black vote and would crush any hope Chelsea has of ever running for any office as a democrat.
The only way that Little Lord Obammyroy can win is playing scorched Earth, which will leave him in no position whatsoever from which to govern.
If he is actually that horrible and wins a second term, what would that say about the republican choices America was offered?
Yes, Obama is playing chess and the Tea-Publicans are playing checkers. It's funny to watch...
The recession ended two years ago.
The recession ended two years ago.
Yes, and it started December 2007, not January 2009.
If Obama is reelected in 2012, I hope he can provide single-payer health insurance for all. Single-payer - not just a Public Option.
So let's say the unthinkable happens and Obama wins re-election (G-d forbid). He is sworn in in January 2013 (Heaven forbid) and serves another 4 years (L-rd save us). Now what?
The Congress will go over to the GOP, having the lowest ratings in years. What will Obama do for 4 years? He is the most compromised president in history. He doesn't have a shred of credibility with the GOP, having demonized them for over 4 years. He has proven he cannot work with them. He has proven he ignores all advice contrary to his own ideas (see, Simpson-Bowles). He is unable to get a single piece of legislation through Congress. And his regulatory moves are blocked by Congressional action.
Is that really the formula for success? Gridlock?
No, Obama is unable to govern. The Dems need to choose someone else as a sacrificial lamb.
If Obama is reelected in 2012, I hope he can provide single-payer health insurance for all. Single-payer - not just a Public Option.
He rejected that concept when he came out with his plan.
When he was working his HC plan, no single-payer proponent was even in the room!
This is one of those areas where many of his former supporters lost confidence in the guy, actually.
So let's say the unthinkable happens and Obama wins re-election (G-d forbid). He is sworn in in January 2013 (Heaven forbid) and serves another 4 years (L-rd save us). Now what?
The Congress will go over to the GOP, having the lowest ratings in years. What will Obama do for 4 years? He is the most compromised president in history. He doesn't have a shred of credibility with the GOP, having demonized them for over 4 years. He has proven he cannot work with them. He has proven he ignores all advice contrary to his own ideas (see, Simpson-Bowles). He is unable to get a single piece of legislation through Congress. And his regulatory moves are blocked by Congressional action.
Is that really the formula for success? Gridlock?
No, Obama is unable to govern. The Dems need to choose someone else as a sacrificial lamb.
So let's say the unthinkable happens and Obama wins re-election (G-d forbid). He is sworn in in January 2013 (Heaven forbid) and serves another 4 years (L-rd save us). Now what?
The Congress will go over to the GOP, having the lowest ratings in years. What will Obama do for 4 years? He is the most compromised president in history. He doesn't have a shred of credibility with the GOP, having demonized them for over 4 years. He has proven he cannot work with them. He has proven he ignores all advice contrary to his own ideas (see, Simpson-Bowles). He is unable to get a single piece of legislation through Congress. And his regulatory moves are blocked by Congressional action.
Is that really the formula for success? Gridlock?
No, Obama is unable to govern. The Dems need to choose someone else as a sacrificial lamb.
Well, I suspect in a second term, he'd be completely ineffective.
No POTUS has really ever had a good second term. Bush had Katrina, lost Congress and the war went south. Clinton had impeachment, Reagan had Iran Contra, Nixon had Watergate. There are enough things bubbling under the surface- Solyndra, Fast and Furious, Rezko waiting for his pardon- to make Obama's life in a second term miserable.
Obama has shown an inability to bend. When Clinton and Bush lost Congress, they still found ways to get things done. Obama likes to pretend that 2010 didn't happen and acts petulant when Congress wants a say. (Although, to be fair, he acted petulant when his own party controlled congress.)
That said, the GOP would deserve to lose if it goes on it's present course. It seems determined to snub or insult the very continencies that have carried it this far- social conservatives and the TEA Party.
A Western official in Kabul confirmed the United States was in direct contact with the Taliban following a sea change in American policy this year.
Marc Grossman [pictured above], the replacement for special envoy Richard Holbrooke, has been nicknamed "Mr Reconciliation" and told to focus efforts on trying to facilitate a political deal which would ease a US exit.
"Those are no longer preconditions, they are being seen as negotiated outcomes," said the Western official. At the same time, the Taliban has weakened its demand that no talks can take place before foreign troops leave.
Canadian Prime Minister Harper just came out with a specific verbal condemnation of Irans continued determination to achieve higher levels of uranium enrichment while Obama continues to stutter.
This is what you guys have waiting in the wings..
Mitt Romney Confronted by Angry Crowd 'Corporations Are People' www.RightFace.us - YouTube
Crowd Cheers Executions At GOP Debate - Rick Perry On Death Penalty - YouTube
And this is the very best you guys are putting up against Obama.
Incredible.
You really mean "legislating like liberals".Hmmm If the GOP takes the Senate, it will be obama that is doing the obstructing.
Republicans will take the Senate and lose the House
They will pull the same Tea Bagging nonsense they do now crafting bills that please their base but have no chance of even making it to Obamas desk
Until they learn to legislate like adults, nothing will be passed