2012: Obama Wins. Now what?

America's survived bad presidents before, but not like him, and for two terms. I'd have to contemplate the unthinkable- leaving her:(
Yeah.....Lil' Dumbya was a.....

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America's survived bad presidents before, but not like him, and for two terms. I'd have to contemplate the unthinkable- leaving her:(
Yeah.....Lil' Dumbya was a.....

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Shit for brains the government said 103,000 new jobs were added in October. However take a look at this

The increase in employment partially reflected the return to payrolls of about 45,000 Verizon telecoms workers who had been on strike in August. The number of unemployed people, at 14 million, remained essentially unchanged in September.
US adds 103,000 new jobs as unemployment rate unchanged | Business | guardian.co.uk
45,000 of those supposed new jobs were returning workers to existing jobs. So if I was you I would not be toten that link and graph as some great victory They lied to you.
 
Longtime democrat strategists Pat Caddell and Doug Schoen completely disagree.



Patrick Caddell and Douglas Schoen: The Hillary Moment - WSJ.com

But you Boiking fluffers keep living your lie...It's becoming quite amusing.

Hillary won't run she knows she can't win the black vote and would crush any hope Chelsea has of ever running for any office as a democrat.
Hillary is only part of the story, dumbshit.

The only way that Little Lord Obammyroy can win is playing scorched Earth, which will leave him in no position whatsoever from which to govern.

You don't know politics or trade winds do you?

Two months ago would Rabbi have posted this thread? After two months of republican candidates and debates, even the conservatives are seeing the writing on the wall.
 
If he is actually that horrible and wins a second term, what would that say about the republican choices America was offered?
You'd have to identify those, first.

(Good luck.)


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-A09a_gHJc]Mitch McConnell: Top Priority, Make Obama a One Term President - YouTube[/ame]​
 
Yes, Obama is playing chess and the Tea-Publicans are playing checkers. It's funny to watch...

Indeed sir. The mass tea-baters are in for a big, big surprise if they think one of their goons has got a serious shot at the Presidency.

It's HIGHLY entertaining watching them bonk each other over the head like Larry, Curly and Moe.

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LOLz! :lol:
 
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If Obama is reelected in 2012, I hope he can provide single-payer health insurance for all. Single-payer - not just a Public Option.

He rejected that concept when he came out with his plan.


When he was working his HC plan, no single-payer proponent was even in the room!

This is one of those areas where many of his former supporters lost confidence in the guy, actually.
 
So let's say the unthinkable happens and Obama wins re-election (G-d forbid). He is sworn in in January 2013 (Heaven forbid) and serves another 4 years (L-rd save us). Now what?
The Congress will go over to the GOP, having the lowest ratings in years. What will Obama do for 4 years? He is the most compromised president in history. He doesn't have a shred of credibility with the GOP, having demonized them for over 4 years. He has proven he cannot work with them. He has proven he ignores all advice contrary to his own ideas (see, Simpson-Bowles). He is unable to get a single piece of legislation through Congress. And his regulatory moves are blocked by Congressional action.
Is that really the formula for success? Gridlock?
No, Obama is unable to govern. The Dems need to choose someone else as a sacrificial lamb.

That would mean the implementation of policies that are known job killers. This admin will take those favorite power grabs and remove the hold he has them on.

Business will continue to flounder. Without Obama fucking things up it is expected to take another 5 to 7 years just to get back to even, that wont happen with Obamas reelection.

therefore instead of fighting the idiots I will retire. A lot less taxes collected and eventually drawing government cash. That should help him out.
 
Bush was absolutely the worst President in American history. He IS what failure looks like. What conservatives are complaining about now..is the residual effects of 8 years of devastation wrought on our economy by their ideas. They got almost everything single thing they wanted. The country, however, balked at the destruction of Social Security and the appointment of a joke judge, Harriet Miers.
 
If Obama is reelected in 2012, I hope he can provide single-payer health insurance for all. Single-payer - not just a Public Option.

He rejected that concept when he came out with his plan.


When he was working his HC plan, no single-payer proponent was even in the room!

This is one of those areas where many of his former supporters lost confidence in the guy, actually.

I was pretty furious with that..and extending the Bush tax cuts. How long do we need to see that tax cuts alone, have absolutely zero effect on job growth.
 
Ah you guys need pictures..

This is what failure looks like...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PGmnz5Ow-o]Bush: Truly not concerned about bin Laden (short version) - YouTube[/ame]

This is what success looks like..

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-N3dJvhgPg]Obama: Osama bin Laden Dead - Full Video - YouTube[/ame]

Got it?
 
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThEAO0lt4Dw]Barack Obama "Uh" Count - YouTube[/ame]



 
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So let's say the unthinkable happens and Obama wins re-election (G-d forbid). He is sworn in in January 2013 (Heaven forbid) and serves another 4 years (L-rd save us). Now what?
The Congress will go over to the GOP, having the lowest ratings in years. What will Obama do for 4 years? He is the most compromised president in history. He doesn't have a shred of credibility with the GOP, having demonized them for over 4 years. He has proven he cannot work with them. He has proven he ignores all advice contrary to his own ideas (see, Simpson-Bowles). He is unable to get a single piece of legislation through Congress. And his regulatory moves are blocked by Congressional action.
Is that really the formula for success? Gridlock?
No, Obama is unable to govern. The Dems need to choose someone else as a sacrificial lamb.

Well, I suspect in a second term, he'd be completely ineffective.

No POTUS has really ever had a good second term. Bush had Katrina, lost Congress and the war went south. Clinton had impeachment, Reagan had Iran Contra, Nixon had Watergate. There are enough things bubbling under the surface- Solyndra, Fast and Furious, Rezko waiting for his pardon- to make Obama's life in a second term miserable.

Obama has shown an inability to bend. When Clinton and Bush lost Congress, they still found ways to get things done. Obama likes to pretend that 2010 didn't happen and acts petulant when Congress wants a say. (Although, to be fair, he acted petulant when his own party controlled congress.)

That said, the GOP would deserve to lose if it goes on it's present course. It seems determined to snub or insult the very continencies that have carried it this far- social conservatives and the TEA Party.
 
This is what you guys have waiting in the wings..

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ8w4ZBXUbo]Mitt Romney Confronted by Angry Crowd 'Corporations Are People' www.RightFace.us - YouTube[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXB8avpzMyI]Crowd Cheers Executions At GOP Debate - Rick Perry On Death Penalty - YouTube[/ame]

And this is the very best you guys are putting up against Obama.

Incredible. :lol:
 
So let's say the unthinkable happens and Obama wins re-election (G-d forbid). He is sworn in in January 2013 (Heaven forbid) and serves another 4 years (L-rd save us). Now what?
The Congress will go over to the GOP, having the lowest ratings in years. What will Obama do for 4 years? He is the most compromised president in history. He doesn't have a shred of credibility with the GOP, having demonized them for over 4 years. He has proven he cannot work with them. He has proven he ignores all advice contrary to his own ideas (see, Simpson-Bowles). He is unable to get a single piece of legislation through Congress. And his regulatory moves are blocked by Congressional action.
Is that really the formula for success? Gridlock?
No, Obama is unable to govern. The Dems need to choose someone else as a sacrificial lamb.

Well, I suspect in a second term, he'd be completely ineffective.

No POTUS has really ever had a good second term. Bush had Katrina, lost Congress and the war went south. Clinton had impeachment, Reagan had Iran Contra, Nixon had Watergate. There are enough things bubbling under the surface- Solyndra, Fast and Furious, Rezko waiting for his pardon- to make Obama's life in a second term miserable.

Obama has shown an inability to bend. When Clinton and Bush lost Congress, they still found ways to get things done. Obama likes to pretend that 2010 didn't happen and acts petulant when Congress wants a say. (Although, to be fair, he acted petulant when his own party controlled congress.)

That said, the GOP would deserve to lose if it goes on it's present course. It seems determined to snub or insult the very continencies that have carried it this far- social conservatives and the TEA Party.

As long as Obama's health exchanges are driven into the ground, another four years of deadlock is workable. Certainly Obama's foreign policy will continue to drive wedges between America and it's past allies.

Obama bends far too often imo. Then when bending is needed, he's nowhere to be found.

Obama Bending Over To Court the Taliban

A Western official in Kabul confirmed the United States was in direct contact with the Taliban following a sea change in American policy this year.

Marc Grossman [pictured above], the replacement for special envoy Richard Holbrooke, has been nicknamed "Mr Reconciliation" and told to focus efforts on trying to facilitate a political deal which would ease a US exit.

"Those are no longer preconditions, they are being seen as negotiated outcomes," said the Western official. At the same time, the Taliban has weakened its demand that no talks can take place before foreign troops leave.

The bowing buffoon Obama is going to re-install the Taliban after giving them a timetable? :doubt:


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I expect more of his bowing to Kings, Queens and Atheists.

Canadian Prime Minister Harper just came out with a specific verbal condemnation of Iran’s continued determination to achieve higher levels of uranium enrichment while Obama continues to stutter.

Bowing, Bending Over Backwards Is Ineffective Foreign Policy Mr. Obama - 2012

Well done Barack old boy. Keep backing up....

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This is what you guys have waiting in the wings..

Mitt Romney Confronted by Angry Crowd 'Corporations Are People' www.RightFace.us - YouTube
Crowd Cheers Executions At GOP Debate - Rick Perry On Death Penalty - YouTube

And this is the very best you guys are putting up against Obama.

Incredible. :lol:

Either one of them would be a vast improvement over Obama.

Heck, the only reason I'm not supporting Romney is because I hate Mormons. Otherwise, I'd have no major problems with him.
 
Hmmm If the GOP takes the Senate, it will be obama that is doing the obstructing.

Republicans will take the Senate and lose the House

They will pull the same Tea Bagging nonsense they do now crafting bills that please their base but have no chance of even making it to Obamas desk

Until they learn to legislate like adults, nothing will be passed
You really mean "legislating like liberals".

Hint to Republicans...

When every bill you propose starts with "Repeal Obamacare" you are not going to get much accomplished
 

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