2012: Obama Wins. Now what?

[The Rabbi]

So let's say the unthinkable happens and Obama wins re-election (G-d forbid). He is sworn in in January 2013 (Heaven forbid) and serves another 4 years (L-rd save us). Now what?
The Congress will go over to the GOP, having the lowest ratings in years. What will Obama do for 4 years? He is the most compromised president in history. He doesn't have a shred of credibility with the GOP, having demonized them for over 4 years. He has proven he cannot work with them. He has proven he ignores all advice contrary to his own ideas (see, Simpson-Bowles). He is unable to get a single piece of legislation through Congress. And his regulatory moves are blocked by Congressional action.
Is that really the formula for success? Gridlock?
No, Obama is unable to govern. The Dems need to choose someone else as a sacrificial lamb.

 

[Cowman]

Well? What will you do? Complain and shout hyperbolic things for another four years?

 

[Trajan]

So let's say the unthinkable happens and Obama wins re-election (G-d forbid). He is sworn in in January 2013 (Heaven forbid) and serves another 4 years (L-rd save us). Now what?
The Congress will go over to the GOP, having the lowest ratings in years. What will Obama do for 4 years? He is the most compromised president in history. He doesn't have a shred of credibility with the GOP, having demonized them for over 4 years. He has proven he cannot work with them. He has proven he ignores all advice contrary to his own ideas (see, Simpson-Bowles). He is unable to get a single piece of legislation through Congress. And his regulatory moves are blocked by Congressional action.
Is that really the formula for success? Gridlock?
No, Obama is unable to govern. The Dems need to choose someone else as a sacrificial lamb.

Truman and Johnson didn't want any part of what Obama would be in store for. Hillary 2012...

 

[Oddball]

2012: Obama Wins. Now what?

Buy lots more gold & silver.

 

[R.C. Christian]

So let's say the unthinkable happens and Obama wins re-election (G-d forbid). He is sworn in in January 2013 (Heaven forbid) and serves another 4 years (L-rd save us). Now what?
The Congress will go over to the GOP, having the lowest ratings in years. What will Obama do for 4 years? He is the most compromised president in history. He doesn't have a shred of credibility with the GOP, having demonized them for over 4 years. He has proven he cannot work with them. He has proven he ignores all advice contrary to his own ideas (see, Simpson-Bowles). He is unable to get a single piece of legislation through Congress. And his regulatory moves are blocked by Congressional action.
Is that really the formula for success? Gridlock?
No, Obama is unable to govern. The Dems need to choose someone else as a sacrificial lamb.

No longer burdened with the responsibility of winning another election I believe he'll do whatever it is he wants. By executive order if necessary.

 

[Trajan]

2012: Obama Wins. Now what?

Buy lots more gold & silver.

what for? he'll create another 25 million jobs and everything will be jake....no?

 

[Ernie S.]

4 years of a lame duck? His veto pen will be busy and you'll see Dems crossing the aisle to override when something really needs to get done.

 

[Immanuel]

Step two of socializing medicine. He won't need the health insurance companies to fund his next election so he can pull the rug out from under their feet and really screw Americans. He said it would take 15 - 20 years. This would get them halfway home.

Immie

 

[Samson]

2012: Obama Wins. Now what?

Buy lots more gold & silver.

And bullets, cigaretts, and alcohol.

Right now BUD, STZ, and BEAM are all great buys.

 

[tinydancer]

You have to take the Senate. Screw Obama. If you have the House and the Senate the Bam Bam is toast.
It doesn't matter if he takes the Presidency.

The win is the Senate. That's what I'm signing up for. Let's remove O's power.

 

[Rocko]

America's survived bad presidents before, but not like him, and for two terms. I'd have to contemplate the unthinkable- leaving her

 

[rightwinger]

Same old threat Republicans have used for the last three years

If you do not get rid of Obama......we will obstruct the government till he is gone

Obama must FAIL....Part II

 

[The Rabbi]

Same old threat Republicans have used for the last three years

If you do not get rid of Obama......we will obstruct the government till he is gone

Obama must FAIL....Part II

Newsflash: Obama has ALREADY failed.
Now we have to prevent the country from failing.

 

[occupied]

If he is actually that horrible and wins a second term, what would that say about the republican choices America was offered?

 

[Samson]

If he is actually that horrible and wins a second term, what would that say about the republican choices America was offered?

Indeed.

I'm still wondering how McCain failed so miserably.

 

[spectrumc01]

I guess if Obama gets elected it means that all the conservatives in America are the minority after all. All their ideas are not held by the majority. What they have been doing the previous four years was actually tyranny by the minority. Obama must be doing exactly what the majority of the people want if he gets re-elected.

What it shows is that the Republicans are deficient in the area of leadership. If they can't find one person in their whole party who can beat Obama what does that say about them. I guess they could always go back to calling the American public stupid and irresponsible for re-electing Obama. That tactic always endears the public to a particular party.

If Obama does get re-elected we will get more of what we got now, which is nothing getting accomplished. In todays political world it is all or nothing. You have to hold the WH, the Senate and the House with a super majority to get anything done.

Obama getting re-elected is not good for this country one bit.
The Republican field of candidates is not good at all. They should not have a problem beating Obama, but they will loose because they can't run a descent candidate.

 

[Ernie S.]

I watch a lot of people on here cry and whine.
I laugh because they thought the current crop of gop runners would win.i laugh and go find posts from people who said obama is another Carter and laugh at them.

Regardless ill enjoy the defeat if obama wins or not.

Lol and we are supposed to take this seriously?

 

[rightwinger]

Same old threat Republicans have used for the last three years

If you do not get rid of Obama......we will obstruct the government till he is gone

Obama must FAIL....Part II

Newsflash: Obama has ALREADY failed.
Now we have to prevent the country from failing.

Nobody is more experienced than dealing withe the GOP temper tantrum than Obama. Doesn't matter who the president is, if he is not Republican, GOP gives us it's temper tantrum

With Clinton it was impeachment, with Obama it is stonewall Congress

Best action for Obamas second term is avoid any pretext of including them in the decision making process

 

[occupied]

You also have to wonder that if the republicans actually represent the majority of America then why can they not do any better than a collection of cowboys, empty suits and church ladies?

 

[ladyliberal]

I disagree with most of the original posts premises:

- Obama winning isn't unthinkable. It is eminently imaginable: Obama as president in 2013 would not be unimaginably different from the President Obama of 2009-11. It is not unlikely either-- Intrade gives him better than even odds.

- Congress cannot "go over to the GOP", since it is already more under their control than it is under Democratic control. Republicans have a strong majority in the House which can only go down, and they might even lose majority (~27% odds on Intrade). They probably will take the Senate (~74% odds) but will almost certainly not have a filibuster-proof majority. Congress's approval ratings are low, but Republicans have even lower ratings than Democrats.

- Democrats don't need another candidate. Obama has by far the largest odds of reelection and is the most popular elected official in the country by a wide margin. You clearly don't like him, but the Democratic voters who would choose a nominee have no reason to reject him.

- Obama is in very little danger of seeing his veto routinely overridden. GWB became incredibly unpopular and yet while his vetoes were overridden four times, none of these were on major or publicly controversial bills.

Regardless of who is elected President in 2012, fewer major pieces of legislature will be passed than will have been in Obama's first term. Important pieces such as the patent law or the food safety law will still be passable, and major pieces may be passed in response to crises. There's no reason to believe that a Hillary or a Mitt would have more legislative success than Obama would.