2012 Election

[EriktheRed]

Uh, were was I "cornered"? You asked a "what if" scenario, I answered it thoroughly. Is your problem that you couldn't corner me? That I gave an honest and thorough answer, leaving you with nothing to attack? Help me to understand, cause I don't....

You just got through saying the Republicans took over the Electoral College. What did you mean by that?

I mean, in November 2010, the entire nation stood up and told Obama and the Dumbocrats to go fuck themselves. That they were not going to tolerate this assinine redistribution of wealth ideology and the policies that were sending America over the cliff.

That's why the House went from a Dumbocrat super majority to a GOP majority (and just a couple shy from a super majority). They also picked up seats in the Senate, and had a landslide in state governors, mayors, and even auditors. These are the same people who will now elect the president. Common sense says, who in the hell do you think they are going to vote for? Do you think these representatives who were sent to Washington with a loud & clear objective (ie stop the marxist dictator) are really going to cast votes for Obama? Really? It's comical to watch the left trip over themselves with hate & venom over the success of the Tea Party. And here we sit today, with the left still screaming how Obama is going to win big. But anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that the November 2010 election was a clear referendum on Obama (he even admitted as much and said that he needed to slide more to the middle to govern America - but he never did). Wish all you want, but this election has been set in stone for over 2 years now, and even Obama himself knows that (did you see his face that night?!?! ).

Ah, I see.

Well, a coupla small things:

1) the House never had a "super majority" because that's meaningless in the House.

2) If the "entire nation stood up and told Obama and the Dumbocrats to go fuck themselves", then why didn't they get the Senate, too?

Also, for guy who said, "Well, unlike liberals, I don't pretend to be Nostradamus.", you seem to have a high amount of certainty of this election's outcome?

 

[P@triot]

I'm sorry, you're right...I Ryanised the truth.
I'm sure there were loads of non-whites.
I'm on Google images right now....

Funny, I saw both Susana Martinez and Marco Rubio (both of Hispanic heritage) not only in attendance, but actually on stage giving keynote speeches. How odd that a party you accuse of being only white would not only have these people in attendance, they would actually give them the stage and an audience.

Then, I saw Condoleeza Rice and Mia Love (both of african-american heritage) take the stage and give exceptional speeches as well.

Of course there were many others we could mention, but those were my favorites. The point is, those were just the "non-white" people up on the stage. There were many, many more in the audience.

But at the end of the day, only a racist asshole would ever care what color/race the people were in attendance. Even if the entire thing were made up 100% of "white" American's, who cares? The fact that you are so obsessed with it shows how racist you are. The rest of us didn't notice, nor care, about race, sex, or creed. We were focused on the message and the policies. You should have been too, you racist dirt-bag.

Gosh!
You sure are touchy about it!
And you can name all the non-whites off the top of your head - pretty impressive when there were soooo many of them!

Yes, I am "touchy" about racists like you. Sad that you are so obsessed with the color of someone's skin instead of the content of their character.

 

[P@triot]

You just got through saying the Republicans took over the Electoral College. What did you mean by that?

I mean, in November 2010, the entire nation stood up and told Obama and the Dumbocrats to go fuck themselves. That they were not going to tolerate this assinine redistribution of wealth ideology and the policies that were sending America over the cliff.

That's why the House went from a Dumbocrat super majority to a GOP majority (and just a couple shy from a super majority). They also picked up seats in the Senate, and had a landslide in state governors, mayors, and even auditors. These are the same people who will now elect the president. Common sense says, who in the hell do you think they are going to vote for? Do you think these representatives who were sent to Washington with a loud & clear objective (ie stop the marxist dictator) are really going to cast votes for Obama? Really? It's comical to watch the left trip over themselves with hate & venom over the success of the Tea Party. And here we sit today, with the left still screaming how Obama is going to win big. But anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that the November 2010 election was a clear referendum on Obama (he even admitted as much and said that he needed to slide more to the middle to govern America - but he never did). Wish all you want, but this election has been set in stone for over 2 years now, and even Obama himself knows that (did you see his face that night?!?! ).

Ah, I see.

Well, a coupla small things:

1) the House never had a "super majority" because that's meaningless in the House.

2) If the "entire nation stood up and told Obama and the Dumbocrats to go fuck themselves", then why didn't they get the Senate, too?

Also, for guy who said, "Well, unlike liberals, I don't pretend to be Nostradamus.", you seem to have a high amount of certainty of this election's outcome?

All I'm doing is pointing on the reality to dispute the absurd predictions by the liberals who are claiming how Obama will win huge. When you gave me a specific (unlikely) scenario, I openly admitted I had no idea. However, based on recent history and the facts, I think it is safe to conclude the idea that Obama is going to lose. Nobody can say for certain what is going to happen, but taking into account what happened most recently (landslide elections in November 2010) and the fact that neither Obama nor the Tea Party have changed the slightest bit since then, there is no reason to believe this election will be any different.

 

[EriktheRed]

I mean, in November 2010, the entire nation stood up and told Obama and the Dumbocrats to go fuck themselves. That they were not going to tolerate this assinine redistribution of wealth ideology and the policies that were sending America over the cliff.

That's why the House went from a Dumbocrat super majority to a GOP majority (and just a couple shy from a super majority). They also picked up seats in the Senate, and had a landslide in state governors, mayors, and even auditors. These are the same people who will now elect the president. Common sense says, who in the hell do you think they are going to vote for? Do you think these representatives who were sent to Washington with a loud & clear objective (ie stop the marxist dictator) are really going to cast votes for Obama? Really? It's comical to watch the left trip over themselves with hate & venom over the success of the Tea Party. And here we sit today, with the left still screaming how Obama is going to win big. But anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that the November 2010 election was a clear referendum on Obama (he even admitted as much and said that he needed to slide more to the middle to govern America - but he never did). Wish all you want, but this election has been set in stone for over 2 years now, and even Obama himself knows that (did you see his face that night?!?! ).

Ah, I see.

Well, a coupla small things:

1) the House never had a "super majority" because that's meaningless in the House.

2) If the "entire nation stood up and told Obama and the Dumbocrats to go fuck themselves", then why didn't they get the Senate, too?

Also, for guy who said, "Well, unlike liberals, I don't pretend to be Nostradamus.", you seem to have a high amount of certainty of this election's outcome?

All I'm doing is pointing on the reality to dispute the absurd predictions by the liberals who are claiming how Obama will win huge. When you gave me a specific (unlikely) scenario, I openly admitted I had no idea. However, based on recent history and the facts, I think it is safe to conclude the idea that Obama is going to lose. Nobody can say for certain what is going to happen, but taking into account what happened most recently (landslide elections in November 2010) and the fact that neither Obama nor the Tea Party have changed the slightest bit since then, there is no reason to believe this election will be any different.

Current polls suggest otherwise. One thing that is very different is that the Prez's base isn't demoralized like they were before. 2012 ain't gonna be 2010.

 

[idb]

Funny, I saw both Susana Martinez and Marco Rubio (both of Hispanic heritage) not only in attendance, but actually on stage giving keynote speeches. How odd that a party you accuse of being only white would not only have these people in attendance, they would actually give them the stage and an audience.

Then, I saw Condoleeza Rice and Mia Love (both of african-american heritage) take the stage and give exceptional speeches as well.

Of course there were many others we could mention, but those were my favorites. The point is, those were just the "non-white" people up on the stage. There were many, many more in the audience.

But at the end of the day, only a racist asshole would ever care what color/race the people were in attendance. Even if the entire thing were made up 100% of "white" American's, who cares? The fact that you are so obsessed with it shows how racist you are. The rest of us didn't notice, nor care, about race, sex, or creed. We were focused on the message and the policies. You should have been too, you racist dirt-bag.

Gosh!
You sure are touchy about it!
And you can name all the non-whites off the top of your head - pretty impressive when there were soooo many of them!

Yes, I am "touchy" about racists like you. Sad that you are so obsessed with the color of someone's skin instead of the content of their character.

The obsession is yours.
Of all the criticisms I made about the conference, that's the subject that you bit the hardest on.
Interesting.

 

[EriktheRed]

Gosh!
You sure are touchy about it!
And you can name all the non-whites off the top of your head - pretty impressive when there were soooo many of them!

Yes, I am "touchy" about racists like you. Sad that you are so obsessed with the color of someone's skin instead of the content of their character.

The obsession is yours.
Of all the criticisms I made about the conference, that's the subject that you bit the hardest on.
Interesting.

It's the one he can build the biggest strawman out of.

 

[P@triot]

Current polls suggest otherwise. One thing that is very different is that the Prez's base isn't demoralized like they were before. 2012 ain't gonna be 2010.

And why exactly was his base "demoralized" in 2010? They treated the man like Jesus, worshipped and cried when he was elected. He brought the exact marxist redistribution of wealth they wanted. So what exactly was his base "demoralized" about in the 2010 elections?

 

[P@triot]

LMAO!!! Folks, you just can't make this stuff up....

BIDEN: 'IF IT WEREN'T SO HOT I'D GO INTO DETAIL' ON HOW AMERICA'S BETTER OFF

Biden: 'If It Weren't So Hot I'd Go Into Detail' On How America's Better Off

 

[EriktheRed]

Current polls suggest otherwise. One thing that is very different is that the Prez's base isn't demoralized like they were before. 2012 ain't gonna be 2010.

And why exactly was his base "demoralized" in 2010? They treated the man like Jesus, worshipped and cried when he was elected. He brought the exact marxist redistribution of wealth they wanted. So what exactly was his base "demoralized" about in the 2010 elections?

They wanted a lot more than he and the Dems could deliver, even with a majority. They also didn't get just what bunch of total nutbags were going to get elected to Congress. They've gotten a really good look now.

 

[1ManRev]

Free market capitalism is why were are in the shit in the first place. So that doesn't work either....

One of the most parroted myths of the left. Leading up to the burst of the housing bubble, the government had its hands all over that market. Add in GM and the massive corporate welfare bailouts that came at taxpayer expense... doesn't sound very free-market to me.

In a real free-market society, high-risk banks would go out of business and be replaced by more responsible competitors. In our current system, those same banks are rewared for their reckless practices, allowing them to grow bigger and become larger liabilities for our country in the future.

And to address the OP, this whole thing about the upcoming election being a choice between the good old days and a path towards a socialist state... calm down, the choices are not nearly that drastic (although both parties and the media will try to insist that there really is a world's worth of difference between the two major candidates). I have an honest question to ask: Imagine if Romney had become president in 2008 instead of Obama. Outside of the healthcare law, what would Mitt have done differently from the guy currently sitting in office?

 

[Dr Grump]

Not all over Europe - Mediterranaen Europe would be more correct, and I'll think you'll find it is the type of societies they are that causes the problems, not the poltics. The Scandinavian and other northern European countries have also had left-leaning but aren't suffering the same.

Free market capitalism is why were are in the shit in the first place. So that doesn't work either....

First of all, who is this "we" shit? You're an idiot fucking Aussie. You don't even belong here since this is the United States Message Board.

Second, the lack of Free Market Capitalism is "why were are in the shit in the first place". The government has been regulating the hell out of the market for over a century now, so it is far from "free" stupid.

How do you even think about calling it "free" when both Bill Clinton AND Barack Obama forced banks to give loans to people who couldn't afford them? Yet another glaring example of how stupid and biased you are....

Obama pushed banks to give subprime loans to Chicago blacks | The Daily Caller

I'm not even Australian ya mook.

Don't care what the govt is doing in that regard. Obviously they didn't regulate it enough or Lehmann Bros would still be around, Fanny and Freddie would not have happened, and AIG would not have asked for $182 billion..

Yeah, it was all Barack and Obamas' fault. I mean those bankers weren't running around going "oh, please don't make us do this!"...they were rubbing their hands with glee

 

[Dr Grump]

They don't have a stake in our nation. They don't have a vote in our nation. They don't pay taxes in our nation. Therefore, they should shut the fuck up, get the fuck out, and not have an opinion about our nation.

This could have been written by a Vietnamese/Iranian/Iraqi/Afghan/Chilien/Nicaraguan/Panamanian - I could go on - about the USA.

Harden the fuck up Poodle boy....

 

[FA_Q2]

Not all over Europe - Mediterranaen Europe would be more correct, and I'll think you'll find it is the type of societies they are that causes the problems, not the poltics. The Scandinavian and other northern European countries have also had left-leaning but aren't suffering the same.

Free market capitalism is why were are in the shit in the first place. So that doesn't work either....

First of all, who is this "we" shit? You're an idiot fucking Aussie. You don't even belong here since this is the United States Message Board.

Second, the lack of Free Market Capitalism is "why were are in the shit in the first place". The government has been regulating the hell out of the market for over a century now, so it is far from "free" stupid.

How do you even think about calling it "free" when both Bill Clinton AND Barack Obama forced banks to give loans to people who couldn't afford them? Yet another glaring example of how stupid and biased you are....

Obama pushed banks to give subprime loans to Chicago blacks | The Daily Caller

I'm not even Australian ya mook.

Don't care what the govt is doing in that regard. Obviously they didn't regulate it enough or Lehmann Bros would still be around, Fanny and Freddie would not have happened, and AIG would not have asked for $182 billion..

Yeah, it was all Barack and Obamas' fault. I mean those bankers weren't running around going "oh, please don't make us do this!"...they were rubbing their hands with glee

They were more than regulated enough. That was not the problem. The regulations were all the wrong ones and far too numerous. Of course the bankers were not complaining. The government was buying all their shit up so they did not have to assume most of the risk and then the risk they did assume the government bailed them out of anyway. That is the problem with demanding more involvement, more regulation and more control - that is what caused the problems in the first place. If they simply were left to their own dam business, they would have crashed A LONG TIME AGO and the crooked practices they used would have been ceased. Government continually feed the system, protected it and nurtured it until the beast was so damn big and unmanageable; they claimed we could not let it fail.

 

[jreeves]

the thread is a true testament to right wing stupidity.


OP. I work with Europeans on a daily basis (EAS, European Space Agency). You should show a bit more respect to our allies over seas. And the constant put downs and horrid choice of words only makes all of Americans look like you, and im not even going to tell you what that is. Ill keep the high ground.

By the way, you're post is a true testament to typical liberal left wing stupidity. You go off to college, get brainwashed (because you're weak willed, weak minded) by professors who have never joined the rest of us in the real world. They went to grade school, then junior high school, then high school, then college, then graduate school, and what did they do next? Turned right around and went back to school - only this time sitting on the other side of the desk.

Their entire life revolves around ideological philosophy. "What if everybody had the best healthcare money could buy? How great would the world be?". Well, pretty great my pot smoking philosophical professor - but how exactly do we pay for that when the money doesn't exist for it, and - even worse - there are not enough physicians to meet the demand for that.

See, that's the difference between you left-wing idiots and conservatives. We live, think, and operate in the real world. You hide behind the world of "higher education" which is just code word for "get high and then theorize about a utopia that could never exist, even under theoritcal circumstances".

But hey, if you love Europe so much my Seminole friend, feel free to go live there and enjoy the misery, poverty, and collapse that socialism has brought all of those counties. I assue you of one thing my friend, Bobby Bowden would be disgusted that you're a Seminole fan. Bowden is an old school American to his core. Socialism/Marxism/Communism has no place in his world.

It was made pretty clear in Tampa that Conservatives live in a made-up world.
Where everyone is white, the ladies are all mothers, daughters, sisters etc etc while keeping their pretty noses out of the important affairs of men such as running businesses and the country, and the men are cowboys that speak with their guns...and...to...chairs.

"Real World"?
You dream of the set of The Truman Show.

Yes that was main theme behind Condi Rice's speech for women to keep their noses out important affairs of men....

 

[jreeves]

It was made pretty clear in Tampa that Conservatives live in a made-up world.
Where everyone is white, the ladies are all mothers, daughters, sisters etc etc while keeping their pretty noses out of the important affairs of men such as running businesses and the country, and the men are cowboys that speak with their guns...and...to...chairs.

"Real World"?
You dream of the set of The Truman Show.

Bull-fucking-shit. The Republican Convention showcased diversity that went largely ignored by the left's zombie media apparatchiks.
New GOP convention schedule released – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

Yep, the floor was a veritable United Nations of...well...white people...
But you're right, there were short white people, tall white people, old white people...plenty of diversity there.

Yep, Mia Love, Marco Rubio, Artur Davis are short and tall white people...

 

[jreeves]

Yep, the floor was a veritable United Nations of...well...white people...
But you're right, there were short white people, tall white people, old white people...plenty of diversity there.

It is sad that you actually believe this drivel. For you, reality is not the issue. Instead, the republicans have to be racist and white because… well because your worldview requires it. Try actually looking at issues.

Reality?
The conference got as much coverage for the lies and half-truths that were told, and the wheeling out out of an aging cowboy actor (lets face it, he was only standing in for Ronald) to show the world that all those old guys could still get hard-ons, as for any "message" that there might have been.
It was hardly a triumph was it?

They showed what was possible when you govern by conservative principles...
New Mexico, New Jersey, Virginia...etc...

They showcased a failed presidency...who champions help for the poor and the middle class
But a president who has destroyed the middle class and has chained the poor to a life of poverty...

Should I go on?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Rotdoggy does not like sarcasm used against him.

I'm sorry, you're right...I Ryanised the truth.
I'm sure there were loads of non-whites.
I'm on Google images right now....

Funny, I saw both Susana Martinez and Marco Rubio (both of Hispanic heritage) not only in attendance, but actually on stage giving keynote speeches. How odd that a party you accuse of being only white would not only have these people in attendance, they would actually give them the stage and an audience.

Then, I saw Condoleeza Rice and Mia Love (both of african-american heritage) take the stage and give exceptional speeches as well.

Of course there were many others we could mention, but those were my favorites. The point is, those were just the "non-white" people up on the stage. There were many, many more in the audience.

But at the end of the day, only a racist asshole would ever care what color/race the people were in attendance. Even if the entire thing were made up 100% of "white" American's, who cares? The fact that you are so obsessed with it shows how racist you are. The rest of us didn't notice, nor care, about race, sex, or creed. We were focused on the message and the policies. You should have been too, you racist dirt-bag.

Gosh!
You sure are touchy about it!
And you can name all the non-whites off the top of your head - pretty impressive when there were soooo many of them!

 

[jreeves]

Rotdoggy does not like sarcasm used against him.

Funny, I saw both Susana Martinez and Marco Rubio (both of Hispanic heritage) not only in attendance, but actually on stage giving keynote speeches. How odd that a party you accuse of being only white would not only have these people in attendance, they would actually give them the stage and an audience.

Then, I saw Condoleeza Rice and Mia Love (both of african-american heritage) take the stage and give exceptional speeches as well.

Of course there were many others we could mention, but those were my favorites. The point is, those were just the "non-white" people up on the stage. There were many, many more in the audience.

But at the end of the day, only a racist asshole would ever care what color/race the people were in attendance. Even if the entire thing were made up 100% of "white" American's, who cares? The fact that you are so obsessed with it shows how racist you are. The rest of us didn't notice, nor care, about race, sex, or creed. We were focused on the message and the policies. You should have been too, you racist dirt-bag.

Gosh!
You sure are touchy about it!
And you can name all the non-whites off the top of your head - pretty impressive when there were soooo many of them!

sarcasm...
socialism
sounds the same to me

 

[idb]

Rotdoggy does not like sarcasm used against him.

Gosh!
You sure are touchy about it!
And you can name all the non-whites off the top of your head - pretty impressive when there were soooo many of them!

sarcasm...
socialism
sounds the same to me

I'm sure you see Socialists around every corner, and under your bed.

 

[jreeves]

Rotdoggy does not like sarcasm used against him.

sarcasm...
socialism
sounds the same to me

I'm sure you see Socialists around every corner, and under your bed.

no only around the IDB