2010 is the 23rd warmest year since 1895 in USA

IanC

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its been two weeks since the new year. Ive seen dozens of stories about 2010tied for warmest ever, some stories even put 2010 as second all-time.

but what is happening in the best documented, most thoroughly measured country in the world? 23rd. doncha think with all the media hype and statements released by govt agencies that someone would have thought that was news worthy? apparently not.

Old Rocks is going to come on and say the USA is only 2% of the globe, or the land mass, whatever. Is it 2% of the measuring stations? does the continent of Africa have as many stations, and do we know what shape they are in? how about south america, or the middle east?

ncdc_1895-2010.png


here is a copy of NCDC graph for the US CONTIGUOUS UNITED STATES Climate Summary

read a story about it by someone who found the information, no thanks to the govt or media. According to NCDC’s own data, 2010 was not the warmest year in the United States, nor even a tie | Watts Up With That?

the trend line is 0.12F/decade, is that about 0.7C per century?
 
take a look at the temps from 1930-1980. can you see why so many were predicting a new ice age? but t was just a mirage. but THIS time there is no doubt, the world is burning up. until it doesnt and we move onto the next doomsday scenario.
 
really? no one is interested that the most measured country in the world is showing less warming, or that the media is ignoring that aspect?
 
High of -9 forcasted for us this Tuesday.

I suppose if it weren't for man it would only get to -12 er sumthin'. :dunno:
 
Hmm...take this same graphic, but change the starting point that was not the coldest decade on record....and whalaa!
The mean average is almost completely unchanged. (yellow line)
 

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its been two weeks since the new year. Ive seen dozens of stories about 2010tied for warmest ever, some stories even put 2010 as second all-time.

but what is happening in the best documented, most thoroughly measured country in the world? 23rd. doncha think with all the media hype and statements released by govt agencies that someone would have thought that was news worthy? apparently not.

Old Rocks is going to come on and say the USA is only 2% of the globe, or the land mass, whatever. Is it 2% of the measuring stations? does the continent of Africa have as many stations, and do we know what shape they are in? how about south america, or the middle east?

ncdc_1895-2010.png


here is a copy of NCDC graph for the US CONTIGUOUS UNITED STATES Climate Summary

read a story about it by someone who found the information, no thanks to the govt or media. According to NCDC’s own data, 2010 was not the warmest year in the United States, nor even a tie | Watts Up With That?

the trend line is 0.12F/decade, is that about 0.7C per century?




Hey Ian, you know that huge gap where GISS is no longer using the weather stations on the ground up in the arctic? You know that 1200 km area that is measured by a SINGLE weather station. Amazingly enough that is where it is really hot! The rest of the world is fairly cool, but not up there where there are no stations. Nope, up there it is smokin hot!
 
Ah, such wonderfully dumb asses here. Ian, UAH is done totally from satellite observations. But somehow, it tracks the same as GISS. And, yes, the US has not grown significantly, we are still less than 2% of the worlds surface.
 
Hmm...take this same graphic, but change the starting point that was not the coldest decade on record....and whalaa!
The mean average is almost completely unchanged. (yellow line)


only accredited climate(gate) officials are allowed to adjust govt graphs. your graffiti may incur criminal charges!


once upon a time everyone knew the '30's were hot but obviously we were wrong. the scientists have gone back and corrected history to fully illustrate the influence of global warming.

EAC+1934+vs+1998.jpg


as you can see, 1934 was incorrectly considered the warmest in US history until NASA scientists discovered the true numbers. the blip in 2007 was caused by Steve McIntyre discovering a Y2K bug in the code. the original correction put 1934 back in first place (1921 in third!) but as soon as no one was looking the correction was adjusted and 1998 was back in first place where it belongs. praise be unto Hansen
 
Hmm...take this same graphic, but change the starting point that was not the coldest decade on record....and whalaa!
The mean average is almost completely unchanged. (yellow line)


only accredited climate(gate) officials are allowed to adjust govt graphs. your graffiti may incur criminal charges!


once upon a time everyone knew the '30's were hot but obviously we were wrong. the scientists have gone back and corrected history to fully illustrate the influence of global warming.

EAC+1934+vs+1998.jpg


as you can see, 1934 was incorrectly considered the warmest in US history until NASA scientists discovered the true numbers. the blip in 2007 was caused by Steve McIntyre discovering a Y2K bug in the code. the original correction put 1934 back in first place (1921 in third!) but as soon as no one was looking the correction was adjusted and 1998 was back in first place where it belongs. praise be unto Hansen





Ave Hansen! Now all bow to the gods of statistical shenanigans...mmmmmmmmm
 
its been two weeks since the new year. Ive seen dozens of stories about 2010tied for warmest ever, some stories even put 2010 as second all-time.

but what is happening in the best documented, most thoroughly measured country in the world? 23rd. doncha think with all the media hype and statements released by govt agencies that someone would have thought that was news worthy? apparently not.

Old Rocks is going to come on and say the USA is only 2% of the globe, or the land mass, whatever. Is it 2% of the measuring stations? does the continent of Africa have as many stations, and do we know what shape they are in? how about south america, or the middle east?
See CON$ already know how STUPID their arguments are so they have to preemptively mock the obvious flaw in their argument.

Now if you think back just a little when deniers Christy and Spencer were fudging the satellite data at UAH by using the OPPOSITE sign to correct for diurnal satellite drift to create data that showed global cooling, we were told that ground station data was unreliable and only satellite data from UAH only was accurate. Satellite data from other sources that matched the ground station data was not acceptable because both came from HANSEN.

Now that deniers Christy and Spencer can no longer cook the satellite data, satellite data is suddenly not reliable. Now the only reliable data comes from US ground stations collected by HANSEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cuckoo:

Deniers have to be the STUPIDEST people on Earth. :rofl:
 
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its been two weeks since the new year. Ive seen dozens of stories about 2010tied for warmest ever, some stories even put 2010 as second all-time.

but what is happening in the best documented, most thoroughly measured country in the world? 23rd. doncha think with all the media hype and statements released by govt agencies that someone would have thought that was news worthy? apparently not.

Old Rocks is going to come on and say the USA is only 2% of the globe, or the land mass, whatever. Is it 2% of the measuring stations? does the continent of Africa have as many stations, and do we know what shape they are in? how about south america, or the middle east?
See CON$ already know how STUPID their arguments are so they have to preemptively mock the obvious flaw in their argument.

Now if you think back just a little when deniers Christy and Spencer were fudging the satellite data at UAH by using the OPPOSITE sign to correct for diurnal satellite drift to create data that showed global cooling, we were told that ground station data was unreliable and only satellite data from UAH only was accurate. Satellite data from other sources that matched the ground station data was not acceptable because both came from HANSEN.

Now that deniers Christy and Spencer can no longer cook the satellite data, satellite data is suddenly not reliable. Now the only reliable data comes from US ground stations collected by HANSEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cuckoo:

Deniers have to be the STUPIDEST people on Earth. :rofl:

:eek: The surface data is not perfect and has problems in areas. But I doubt it is off by much. I read through giss paper from hansen and he made a ok case I believe....Satellite data should be used to check the surface data,,,meaning Giss, Noaa are our two official surface records that cover the planet. The other don't cover the arctic and shouldn't be used because of that. Not planet wide.
 
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Hmm...take this same graphic, but change the starting point that was not the coldest decade on record....and whalaa!
The mean average is almost completely unchanged. (yellow line)


only accredited climate(gate) officials are allowed to adjust govt graphs. your graffiti may incur criminal charges!


once upon a time everyone knew the '30's were hot but obviously we were wrong. the scientists have gone back and corrected history to fully illustrate the influence of global warming.

EAC+1934+vs+1998.jpg


as you can see, 1934 was incorrectly considered the warmest in US history until NASA scientists discovered the true numbers. the blip in 2007 was caused by Steve McIntyre discovering a Y2K bug in the code. the original correction put 1934 back in first place (1921 in third!) but as soon as no one was looking the correction was adjusted and 1998 was back in first place where it belongs. praise be unto Hansen





Ave Hansen! Now all bow to the gods of statistical shenanigans...mmmmmmmmm

Hmmmm........ It just so happens that Dr. Hansen is not only considered the leading climate scientist in the US, but most consider him to be the leading climate scientist in the world. Now you are accusing him of major fraud. Fraud equal to that of the the doctor that falsified the vacination data.

You claim that you are a scientist with membership both in the Royal Society and the American Geophysical Union. So, if you know for sure that the data is false, then it is your duty to show that to be the case. Failing to do that makes you an accessory to that fraud. However, if you are just shooting bull, then it is you that is the fraud.
 

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