$200,000/yr Lifeguards Get $3 Million for Retirement at Age 50

[syrenn]

$200,000/yr Lifeguards Get Millions for Retirement at Age 50

Newport Beach, California has two groups of lifeguards. Seasonal tower lifeguards cover Newport’s seven miles of beach during the busy summer months. Part-time seasonal guards make $16 to $22 per hour with no benefits. They are the young people who man the towers and do the lion’s share of the rescues. Another group of highly compensated full-time staff work year-round and seldom, if ever, climb into a tower. According to the City Manager, the typical Daily Deployment Model in the winter for these lifeguards is 10 hours per day for four days each week, mainly spent driving trucks around, painting towers, ordering uniforms and doing basic office work—none are actually manning lifeguard towers.

Next week the city council will decide if cuts are needed to the full-time lifeguard force where last year the top earner received $211,000 in pay and benefits, including a $400 sun protection allowance. In 2010 all but one of the city’s full-time lifeguard staff had annual compensation packages worth over $120,000. Not bad pay for a lifeguard – but what makes these jobs most attractive is the generous retirements.

These lifeguards can retire at age 50 with full medical benefits for life. One recently retired lifeguard, age 51, receives a government retirement of over $108,000 per year—for the rest of his life. He will make well over $3 million in retirement if he lives to age 80. According to the City Manager, a new full-time guard costs less to hire than what is spent on this one retiree. The city now spends more taxpayer dollars on retired lifeguards than it does on those who are working.

Government Union Pensions are stealing all the tax money. There is nothing left to keep essential services running. We have been scammed. It is time to get out the pitchforks people & show these "Union Thugs" Who's the Boss.

And we wonder why city, states and the government are going broke. Its the unions and this kind of abuse.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The Unions are nothing but Marxist Bernie Madoff's.

Davis Bacon needs to be repealed immediately

 

[Skull Pilot]

Good for them!

I'm always happy to hear stories about working people who get their piece of the pie.

It's not their pie their eating, it's mine.

Only if you live in California.

And if you do and you personally are forking over that kind of money then you have my sympathies.

Then it's the taxpayers in CA

And people wonder why CA is broke.

 

[KissMy]

Good for them!

I'm always happy to hear stories about working people who get their piece of the pie.

It's not their pie their eating, it's mine.

Only if you live in California.

And if you do and you personally are forking over that kind of money then you have my sympathies.

Bullshit! - It is all of our problem now since the Federal Government had to sell "Build America Bonds" in order to fund Local Pension Funds. This lowered the value of my savings, the US dollar, the US Governments Credit Rating & increased the Federal Debt & My Taxes.

 

[KissMy]

Still haven't seen a legitimate source on this


Breitbart says.....does not really cut it

Is The Orange County Register not legit enough for you?

 

[rightwinger]

Still haven't seen a legitimate source on this


Breitbart says.....does not really cut it

Is The Orange County Register not legit enough for you?

Much better...

How does Newport Beach Lifeguard pay compare to other Southern California towns?

 

[KissMy]

Still haven't seen a legitimate source on this


Breitbart says.....does not really cut it

Is The Orange County Register not legit enough for you?

Much better...

How does Newport Beach Lifeguard pay compare to other Southern California towns?

Who gives a rats ass how it compares. If the government held a jobs fair tomorrow there would be a line around the block & they could replace every government worker with a more qualified one for half the price. This would happen in most cities, counties & states in the country & certainly on the federal level.

 

[KissMy]

Obama's stimulus just keeps worthless government assholes employed & gives them raises.

Either cut government employees pay & benefits or they can all lose their jobs. Take your pick. There will be 100 people standing in line to replace those worthless government employees who want to quit after their pay & benefits are cut.

 

[KissMy]

Good for them!

I'm always happy to hear stories about working people who get their piece of the pie.

The rich 1% public union employees are taking our pie by force. They are not affecting the rich wall-streeters you loathe. Wallstreet power brokers get rich off the state pension funds. Us tax payers must make up for the money that Wallstreet steals from these funds.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

That's Extortion of Tax Payer Money & Cost US Jobs. Government must print money to pay this & that drives inflation, that hurts the poor the most.

Follow the money CNN Money.com's bailout tracker The massive bailouts had little to do with banks. It went to bail-out Federal, State & Local Pensions, Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac. We have been conned & scammed by our own government.

And you don't think these lifeguards spend their money on houses, cars, education for their kids and entertainment all of which stimulate the economy?

Or is it just tax cuts for the wealthy that do that?

lets just pay them twice that then....hell, 3 times....

Yep..."Mr Clean" always says this on these kinds of threads.
As long as it is other people's money paying the costs - he could care less.
And as always based upon his logic - all we have to do to fix the economy is pay public workers 10 times as much as they make now.

 

[Toro]

$200,000/yr Lifeguards Get Millions for Retirement at Age 50

Newport Beach, California has two groups of lifeguards. Seasonal tower lifeguards cover Newport’s seven miles of beach during the busy summer months. Part-time seasonal guards make $16 to $22 per hour with no benefits. They are the young people who man the towers and do the lion’s share of the rescues. Another group of highly compensated full-time staff work year-round and seldom, if ever, climb into a tower. According to the City Manager, the typical Daily Deployment Model in the winter for these lifeguards is 10 hours per day for four days each week, mainly spent driving trucks around, painting towers, ordering uniforms and doing basic office work—none are actually manning lifeguard towers.

Next week the city council will decide if cuts are needed to the full-time lifeguard force where last year the top earner received $211,000 in pay and benefits, including a $400 sun protection allowance. In 2010 all but one of the city’s full-time lifeguard staff had annual compensation packages worth over $120,000. Not bad pay for a lifeguard – but what makes these jobs most attractive is the generous retirements.

These lifeguards can retire at age 50 with full medical benefits for life. One recently retired lifeguard, age 51, receives a government retirement of over $108,000 per year—for the rest of his life. He will make well over $3 million in retirement if he lives to age 80. According to the City Manager, a new full-time guard costs less to hire than what is spent on this one retiree. The city now spends more taxpayer dollars on retired lifeguards than it does on those who are working.

Government Union Pensions are stealing all the tax money. There is nothing left to keep essential services running. We have been scammed. It is time to get out the pitchforks people & show these "Union Thugs" Who's the Boss.

That's insane.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

$200,000/yr Lifeguards Get Millions for Retirement at Age 50

Newport Beach, California has two groups of lifeguards. Seasonal tower lifeguards cover Newport’s seven miles of beach during the busy summer months. Part-time seasonal guards make $16 to $22 per hour with no benefits. They are the young people who man the towers and do the lion’s share of the rescues. Another group of highly compensated full-time staff work year-round and seldom, if ever, climb into a tower. According to the City Manager, the typical Daily Deployment Model in the winter for these lifeguards is 10 hours per day for four days each week, mainly spent driving trucks around, painting towers, ordering uniforms and doing basic office work—none are actually manning lifeguard towers.

Next week the city council will decide if cuts are needed to the full-time lifeguard force where last year the top earner received $211,000 in pay and benefits, including a $400 sun protection allowance. In 2010 all but one of the city’s full-time lifeguard staff had annual compensation packages worth over $120,000. Not bad pay for a lifeguard – but what makes these jobs most attractive is the generous retirements.

These lifeguards can retire at age 50 with full medical benefits for life. One recently retired lifeguard, age 51, receives a government retirement of over $108,000 per year—for the rest of his life. He will make well over $3 million in retirement if he lives to age 80. According to the City Manager, a new full-time guard costs less to hire than what is spent on this one retiree. The city now spends more taxpayer dollars on retired lifeguards than it does on those who are working.

Government Union Pensions are stealing all the tax money. There is nothing left to keep essential services running. We have been scammed. It is time to get out the pitchforks people & show these "Union Thugs" Who's the Boss.

That's insane.

Union thugs are liberals who will be defeated tomorrow in Wisconsin. Why do you union thug jobs pay 2 -3 times what comparable jobs pay make in the private sector? Its because their fascist liberal friends in government empower them to do it.

The obvious solutioin is to make unions illegal again!!

 

[KissMy]

Government Employees are the True 1%!!!!!​

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iD-X-jpzXQ"]Government Employees: The True 1%[/ame]

 

[KissMy]

WSJ: We've Become a Nation of Takers, Not Makers

Today in America there are nearly twice as many people working for the government (22.5 million) than in all of manufacturing (11.5 million). This is an almost exact reversal of the situation in 1960, when there were 15 million workers in manufacturing and 8.7 million collecting a paycheck from the government.

It gets worse. More Americans work for the government than work in construction, farming, fishing, forestry, manufacturing, mining and utilities combined. We have moved decisively from a nation of makers to a nation of takers. Nearly half of the $2.2 trillion cost of state and local governments is the $1 trillion-a-year tab for pay and benefits of state and local employees. Is it any wonder that so many states and cities cannot pay their bills?...

Don't expect a reversal of this trend anytime soon. "Surveys of college graduates are finding that more and more of our top minds want to work for the government"...

The employment trends described here are explained in part by hugely beneficial productivity improvements in such traditional industries as farming, manufacturing, financial services and telecommunications. These produce far more output per worker than in the past. The typical farmer, for example, is today at least three times more productive than in 1950.

Where are the productivity gains in government? Consider a core function of state and local governments: schools. Over the period 1970-2005, school spending per pupil, adjusted for inflation, doubled, while standardized achievement test scores were flat. Over roughly that same time period, public-school employment doubled per student, according to a study by researchers at the University of Washington. That is what economists call negative productivity.

But education is an industry where we measure performance backwards: We gauge school performance not by outputs, but by inputs. If quality falls, we say we didn't pay teachers enough or we need smaller class sizes or newer schools. If education had undergone the same productivity revolution that manufacturing has, we would have half as many educators, smaller school budgets, and higher graduation rates and test scores.

The same is true of almost all other government services. Mass transit spends more and more every year and yet a much smaller share of Americans use trains and buses today than in past decades. One way that private companies spur productivity is by firing underperforming employees and rewarding excellence. In government employment, tenure for teachers and near lifetime employment for other civil servants shields workers from this basic system of reward and punishment. It is a system that breeds mediocrity, which is what we've gotten.

Most reasonable steps to restrain public-sector employment costs are smothered by the unions. Study after study has shown that states and cities could shave 20% to 40% off the cost of many services—fire fighting, public transportation, garbage collection, administrative functions, even prison operations—through competitive contracting to private providers. But unions have blocked many of those efforts. Public employees maintain that they are underpaid relative to equally qualified private-sector workers, yet they are deathly afraid of competitive bidding for government services.

 

[Rshermr]

love these guys who quote this stuff without any source. So where are your sources. What is the rest of the story. Weak minds quote stuff without ever checking it out. Kissmy, for instance, makes about 10 accusations without a single source. Somehow, he thinks we should believe him.

I never believe radio or tv personalities, just consider their statements as something worth checking out. And almost always, I find out it is untrue, or unproveable.

If you check out your dogma, you may find it to be bs. Lies, you know? But the true con never checks, just nods his head and gets mad. A smart person checks, and gets mad at the person who lied to him.

 

[uscitizen]

$200,000/yr Lifeguards Get Millions for Retirement at Age 50

Newport Beach, California has two groups of lifeguards. Seasonal tower lifeguards cover Newport’s seven miles of beach during the busy summer months. Part-time seasonal guards make $16 to $22 per hour with no benefits. They are the young people who man the towers and do the lion’s share of the rescues. Another group of highly compensated full-time staff work year-round and seldom, if ever, climb into a tower. According to the City Manager, the typical Daily Deployment Model in the winter for these lifeguards is 10 hours per day for four days each week, mainly spent driving trucks around, painting towers, ordering uniforms and doing basic office work—none are actually manning lifeguard towers.

Next week the city council will decide if cuts are needed to the full-time lifeguard force where last year the top earner received $211,000 in pay and benefits, including a $400 sun protection allowance. In 2010 all but one of the city’s full-time lifeguard staff had annual compensation packages worth over $120,000. Not bad pay for a lifeguard – but what makes these jobs most attractive is the generous retirements.

These lifeguards can retire at age 50 with full medical benefits for life. One recently retired lifeguard, age 51, receives a government retirement of over $108,000 per year—for the rest of his life. He will make well over $3 million in retirement if he lives to age 80. According to the City Manager, a new full-time guard costs less to hire than what is spent on this one retiree. The city now spends more taxpayer dollars on retired lifeguards than it does on those who are working.

Government Union Pensions are stealing all the tax money. There is nothing left to keep essential services running. We have been scammed. It is time to get out the pitchforks people & show these "Union Thugs" Who's the Boss.

They are union?

 

[uscitizen]

WSJ: We've Become a Nation of Takers, Not Makers

Today in America there are nearly twice as many people working for the government (22.5 million) than in all of manufacturing (11.5 million). This is an almost exact reversal of the situation in 1960, when there were 15 million workers in manufacturing and 8.7 million collecting a paycheck from the government.

It gets worse. More Americans work for the government than work in construction, farming, fishing, forestry, manufacturing, mining and utilities combined. We have moved decisively from a nation of makers to a nation of takers. Nearly half of the $2.2 trillion cost of state and local governments is the $1 trillion-a-year tab for pay and benefits of state and local employees. Is it any wonder that so many states and cities cannot pay their bills?...

Don't expect a reversal of this trend anytime soon. "Surveys of college graduates are finding that more and more of our top minds want to work for the government"...

The employment trends described here are explained in part by hugely beneficial productivity improvements in such traditional industries as farming, manufacturing, financial services and telecommunications. These produce far more output per worker than in the past. The typical farmer, for example, is today at least three times more productive than in 1950.

Where are the productivity gains in government? Consider a core function of state and local governments: schools. Over the period 1970-2005, school spending per pupil, adjusted for inflation, doubled, while standardized achievement test scores were flat. Over roughly that same time period, public-school employment doubled per student, according to a study by researchers at the University of Washington. That is what economists call negative productivity.

But education is an industry where we measure performance backwards: We gauge school performance not by outputs, but by inputs. If quality falls, we say we didn't pay teachers enough or we need smaller class sizes or newer schools. If education had undergone the same productivity revolution that manufacturing has, we would have half as many educators, smaller school budgets, and higher graduation rates and test scores.

The same is true of almost all other government services. Mass transit spends more and more every year and yet a much smaller share of Americans use trains and buses today than in past decades. One way that private companies spur productivity is by firing underperforming employees and rewarding excellence. In government employment, tenure for teachers and near lifetime employment for other civil servants shields workers from this basic system of reward and punishment. It is a system that breeds mediocrity, which is what we've gotten.

Most reasonable steps to restrain public-sector employment costs are smothered by the unions. Study after study has shown that states and cities could shave 20% to 40% off the cost of many services—fire fighting, public transportation, garbage collection, administrative functions, even prison operations—through competitive contracting to private providers. But unions have blocked many of those efforts. Public employees maintain that they are underpaid relative to equally qualified private-sector workers, yet they are deathly afraid of competitive bidding for government services.

Now wait just a minute. Everyone knows that government spending does not create jobs.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

WSJ: We've Become a Nation of Takers, Not Makers

Today in America there are nearly twice as many people working for the government (22.5 million) than in all of manufacturing (11.5 million). This is an almost exact reversal of the situation in 1960, when there were 15 million workers in manufacturing and 8.7 million collecting a paycheck from the government.

It gets worse. More Americans work for the government than work in construction, farming, fishing, forestry, manufacturing, mining and utilities combined. We have moved decisively from a nation of makers to a nation of takers. Nearly half of the $2.2 trillion cost of state and local governments is the $1 trillion-a-year tab for pay and benefits of state and local employees. Is it any wonder that so many states and cities cannot pay their bills?...

Don't expect a reversal of this trend anytime soon. "Surveys of college graduates are finding that more and more of our top minds want to work for the government"...

The employment trends described here are explained in part by hugely beneficial productivity improvements in such traditional industries as farming, manufacturing, financial services and telecommunications. These produce far more output per worker than in the past. The typical farmer, for example, is today at least three times more productive than in 1950.

Where are the productivity gains in government? Consider a core function of state and local governments: schools. Over the period 1970-2005, school spending per pupil, adjusted for inflation, doubled, while standardized achievement test scores were flat. Over roughly that same time period, public-school employment doubled per student, according to a study by researchers at the University of Washington. That is what economists call negative productivity.

But education is an industry where we measure performance backwards: We gauge school performance not by outputs, but by inputs. If quality falls, we say we didn't pay teachers enough or we need smaller class sizes or newer schools. If education had undergone the same productivity revolution that manufacturing has, we would have half as many educators, smaller school budgets, and higher graduation rates and test scores.

The same is true of almost all other government services. Mass transit spends more and more every year and yet a much smaller share of Americans use trains and buses today than in past decades. One way that private companies spur productivity is by firing underperforming employees and rewarding excellence. In government employment, tenure for teachers and near lifetime employment for other civil servants shields workers from this basic system of reward and punishment. It is a system that breeds mediocrity, which is what we've gotten.

Most reasonable steps to restrain public-sector employment costs are smothered by the unions. Study after study has shown that states and cities could shave 20% to 40% off the cost of many services—fire fighting, public transportation, garbage collection, administrative functions, even prison operations—through competitive contracting to private providers. But unions have blocked many of those efforts. Public employees maintain that they are underpaid relative to equally qualified private-sector workers, yet they are deathly afraid of competitive bidding for government services.

Now wait just a minute. Everyone knows that government spending does not create jobs.

it does not cause a net increase in jobs. IF it did the governmnet could just hire the 23 million unemployed and end this depression now and never have to worry about unemployment again.

 

[KissMy]

WSJ: We've Become a Nation of Takers, Not Makers

Now wait just a minute. Everyone knows that government spending does not create jobs.

it does not cause a net increase in jobs. IF it did the governmnet could just hire the 23 million unemployed and end this depression now and never have to worry about unemployment again.

Government is already paying most of those unemployed not to work. All we have to do is stop paying them not to work & pay them to work. The problem is when we pay government workers more than private sector workers we cant affort to do that. Government workers need a major pay cut. Take the money saved from pay cuts & unemployment & hire all the unemployed much like the WPA.

Here in the USA we pay people not to work & tax the ones who do work. In Germany they subsidize their workers to keep them employed in down economies.

Guardian UK: IMF - German jobs saved by short-time working subsidies

German system of job subsidies to keep skilled workers employed were given a boost today when the International Monetary Fund released its latest overview of the global economy.

While the impact of the worst recession since the second world war has been to push up joblessness in every continent and every country, the IMF reported big variations between countries...

Germany, where employment protection laws are strong, would see "reduced job destruction in the downturn but also significantly less job creation in the recovery period, as hours per employee are increased".

 

[uscitizen]

WSJ: We've Become a Nation of Takers, Not Makers

Now wait just a minute. Everyone knows that government spending does not create jobs.

it does not cause a net increase in jobs. IF it did the governmnet could just hire the 23 million unemployed and end this depression now and never have to worry about unemployment again.

They could if they had not already spent 10 trillion or so before the recession hit.

FDR did it.
And we entered the 80's with under 1 trillion in debt....
Then we became a debtor nation under Reagan.