$200,000/job.. 27 years to pay back...

[asterism]

your point is valid but your math is wrong.

2003-2008 was 798 deaths per year.

actually, double checking again, i come up with 898 per year.

798

 

[asterism]

From the threat of Saddam Hussein

There was no risk and we knew that.

Not true. Saddam was harboring and funding terrorists.

and the possible risk that our intelligence agency believed he had WMDs.

No, the intelligence community in fact doubted that he had WMD.

SOME in the intelligence community doubted it. Others didn't. Guess who was right?

This claim was first asserted by Bush, and was parroted by others because it was a politically popular thing to say. In other words the Republicans and Democrats both supported taking the country into war because it would buy your vote. There were few people in those days courageous enough to say from the beginning that the entire thing was a sham. But there were some.

Bush did not assert it first.

snopes.com: Weapons of Mass Destruction Quotes

No, that would have been for the UN to decide. And as you'll remember, they did not make that decision.

Last, it is not like we believed he would not use Chemical weapons as he had used them before.

Actually, we were aware that he did not have those old weapons before. The argument was that he was manufacturing new chemical weaponry. Powell's infamous (now understood to be entirely manufactured itself) speech to the UN, remember?

So yes we needed to go in there and remove him from power as it was creating further instability in the region.

Yeah, because the place is so much more stable now. The truth is that Hussein's Iraq was a pillar maintaining stability in the region. After the US invasion, Al Qaeda and other terrorists were able to flow into Iraq, and all kinds of Hell started breaking loose.

Al Qaeda was in Iraq before the invasion.

 

[miami_thomas]

From the threat of Saddam Hussein

There was no risk and we knew that.

and the possible risk that our intelligence agency believed he had WMDs.

No, the intelligence community in fact doubted that he had WMD.



This claim was first asserted by Bush, and was parroted by others because it was a politically popular thing to say. In other words the Republicans and Democrats both supported taking the country into war because it would buy your vote. There were few people in those days courageous enough to say from the beginning that the entire thing was a sham. But there were some.



No, that would have been for the UN to decide. And as you'll remember, they did not make that decision.

Last, it is not like we believed he would not use Chemical weapons as he had used them before.

Actually, we were aware that he did not have those old weapons before. The argument was that he was manufacturing new chemical weaponry. Powell's infamous (now understood to be entirely manufactured itself) speech to the UN, remember?

So yes we needed to go in there and remove him from power as it was creating further instability in the region.

Yeah, because the place is so much more stable now. The truth is that Hussein's Iraq was a pillar maintaining stability in the region. After the US invasion, Al Qaeda and other terrorists were able to flow into Iraq, and all kinds of Hell started breaking loose.

a wikileak said there were WMDs in Iraq. (Iraq did have chemical WMD, WikiLeaks documents reveal - NYPOST.com) . We all now the UN is not capable of acting most times and would never have stepped in. You last statement is wrong. Now after we pull the troops out it could become a problem but leave it to Obama to screw that one up.

 

[Inthemiddle]

Not true. Saddam was harboring and funding terrorists.

No, THAT is not true. It's been emphatically established the Hussein had no connection to Al Qaeda and that in fact bin Laden came to despise Hussein, because he refused to turn Iraq into a theocratic state and he refused to help bin Laden in his quest against the US.

SOME in the intelligence community doubted it. Others didn't. Guess who was right?

The consensus was that that there was no credible information that Iraq possessed WMD. Even when Bush came to the Congress with the "intelligence" it originally emphasized this fact, and Bush altered the information presented.

Bush did not assert it first.

Bush was the one who first called for an invasion of Iraq, and based it on the false claim of WMD. He made is case on false intelligence.

Al Qaeda was in Iraq before the invasion.

False.

 

[healthmyths]

You wrote" Bush was the one who first called for an invasion of Iraq, and based it on the false claim of WMD. He made is case on false intelligence."

The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 Public law 105-338 http://www.cnn.com/US/9812/16/clinton.iraq.speech/
signed The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 Public law 105-338 expressed the sense of congress
it should be policy to support efforts to remove from power the current Iraqi regime.

"The President has authority under the consitution to take action in
order to deter and prevent acts
of international terrorism against the United States."

b) "To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq." Oct. 16, 2002
Public law 107-243, 116 Stat.
1497-1502) Introduced as H.J.Res. 114, passed the House on October 10, 2002 296-133, (68.9% of the house)

 

[paulitician]

The "Stimulus" only stimulated more Debt for our nation. It has completely sunk so many future generations. I'll never get all the Democrat celebration stuff. This is not something to celebrate over. It should actually be something to get pretty depressed over.

 

[asterism]

Not true. Saddam was harboring and funding terrorists.

No, THAT is not true. It's been emphatically established the Hussein had no connection to Al Qaeda and that in fact bin Laden came to despise Hussein, because he refused to turn Iraq into a theocratic state and he refused to help bin Laden in his quest against the US.

You need to read my statement again. Al Qaeda isn't the only terrorist organization.

SOME in the intelligence community doubted it. Others didn't. Guess who was right?

The consensus was that that there was no credible information that Iraq possessed WMD.

That's categorically false. However, even if such a consensus existed, it would have been wrong. Lethal binary agents were indeed found in Iraq.

Even when Bush came to the Congress with the "intelligence" it originally emphasized this fact, and Bush altered the information presented.

Another myth.

Bush did not assert it first.

Bush was the one who first called for an invasion of Iraq, and based it on the false claim of WMD. He made is case on false intelligence.

Bush was the first to call for a ground invasion of Iraq, true. However, he was not the first to assert that Saddam had WMDs and that Saddam posed a threat to the USA.

Al Qaeda was in Iraq before the invasion.

False.

You need to read my statement again. I never claimed a link between Hussein and Al Qaeda.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Most of the American deaths in Iraq occurred AFTER obama and the changes he made in the Rules of Engagement that prohibited air support and reinforcements for pinned down units.

Are you mentally handicapped or just trying to make conservatives look like idiots?

iCasualties: Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom Casualties