2.3 Million Flee Socialist Paradise Venezuela

[night_son]

How can this be?

So now we're sending a hospital ship to Columbia to help all those fleeing the Socialist paradise. Time to send our little petunia Democratic Socialists on a bus tour of Venezuela for some re-education.

How in the hell does a country with the largest oil reserves in the world become a Socialist shit hole?

Bernie, get your ass on the bus right now.

Venezuelans flee economic crisis at home

Venezuela shows us what happens when you combine Socialism with totally corrupt leaders. Give all the money to the government run by crooks. What could go wrong?

It's always been like that in Latin America, Used to Be under American protection of oligarchs and American monopolies. Now under Trump, we are sabotaging Venezuelan in many ways so you can say BS like that...

Looks as though you have conjured me this time, francoHFW.

Have a look at this report, and please read it thoroughly. You seem to be the board's most ardent defender of socialism when I suspect you are actually an advocate of extensive Economic Interventionism. This comes directly from the U.S. State Department:

Venezuela

The greatest generation is gone and so is Union power, so the only intervention we have to protect the non-rich is the government intervening. That is called socialism everywhere outside the GOP bubble of BS. Government regulation of business and industry, along with good safety net, is socialism. It is about as scary as Justice.

And poor old Venezuela is a third world country and irrelevant as a lesson to the richest country in the world. Compare us to every other rich countries that have so many more benefits than we do... Especially after the last 35 years of new BS GOP dominance and give away to the rich.

And I disagree, respectfully. Isn't there a bit of dangerous arrogance in the assumption that First World America could never go the way of Third World Venezuela, unlikely as such a monumental decline would be? Universal, government provided for healthcare is not a socialist apparatus, but rather an Infrastructurist interventionism; a nationalization of a pre-existing and necessary infrastructure previously dictated by a very free and often disadvantageous market. I do however agree with you that the everyman is lost to a degree in the disparity between the richest and poorest, and yet the ability to climb the social ladder is a fundamental tenet of American society, and one of great intersubjective value.

 

[francoHFW]

Venezuela shows us what happens when you combine Socialism with totally corrupt leaders. Give all the money to the government run by crooks. What could go wrong?

It's always been like that in Latin America, Used to Be under American protection of oligarchs and American monopolies. Now under Trump, we are sabotaging Venezuelan in many ways so you can say BS like that...

Looks as though you have conjured me this time, francoHFW.

Have a look at this report, and please read it thoroughly. You seem to be the board's most ardent defender of socialism when I suspect you are actually an advocate of extensive Economic Interventionism. This comes directly from the U.S. State Department:

Venezuela

The greatest generation is gone and so is Union power, so the only intervention we have to protect the non-rich is the government intervening. That is called socialism everywhere outside the GOP bubble of BS. Government regulation of business and industry, along with good safety net, is socialism. It is about as scary as Justice.

And poor old Venezuela is a third world country and irrelevant as a lesson to the richest country in the world. Compare us to every other rich countries that have so many more benefits than we do... Especially after the last 35 years of new BS GOP dominance and give away to the rich.

And I disagree, respectfully. Isn't there a bit of dangerous arrogance in the assumption that First World America could never go the way of Third World Venezuela, unlikely as such a monumental decline would be? Universal, government provided for healthcare is not a socialist apparatus, but rather an Infrastructurist interventionism; a nationalization of a pre-existing and necessary infrastructure previously dictated by a very free and often disadvantageous market. I do however agree with you that the everyman is lost to a degree in the disparity between the richest and poorest, and yet the ability to climb the social ladder is a fundamental tenet of American society, and one of great intersubjective value.

And after 35 years GOP giveaway to the rich, we have the worst upward Mobility and inequality of any developed country. And happiness and everything else...