I just had to mess with my buddy 1stRambo, where we NORMALLY agree on critical conservative points that matter most, while disagreeing on others. EG, We agree on exposing liberal corruption of politics and govt (even where we disagree on which solutions are possible or workable). But on a thread for siding with pastoral criticisms, blaming women for being "whores and predators" """Vote Roy Moore Alabama""" I just can't resist holding 1stRambo to account: """Vote Roy Moore Alabama""" If there was a section for "messing with Sasquatch" I'm sure this thread belongs there! But my point I want to challenge 1stRambo on A. if it's NOT okay for blacks to blame whites for racism and to justify black reactions (even criminal) to white oppression because whites are the predominant cultural norm B. why is it okay for 1stRambo to side with pastors blaming women and the prevalent "culture of whores" for men losing control and causing rapes, harassment, and objectifying of women? If blacks are still responsible for criminal behavior, even in a society where the govt and country was founded by whites, including white property owners, white Christian and white Constitutionalist and Federalist philosophies and leaders, Why shouldn't men still be held responsible for abusive behavior, even in a society that sexualizes and objectifies women. 1stRambo: Do you like it when blacks blame racist reactions on whites for inciting them and "making them lose control"? But you see no problem with men blaming "loss of control" on women for inciting them? Go for it! Bash on me or whoever you blame, this thread is yours to tell me how one situation or the other is justified or not, what makes them different or the same. Let's reach an understanding on this. Please enlighten me and explain "how the world is". But be fair to both cases, of racism and sexism. Explain how people's reactions are the fault of the people they are reacting to. Or how each person is still responsible for our own reactions. Explain away!