1984

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    These problems America has been having have been described in the book 1984 The people are told what to do and when to do it, the only difference is that the government, in this story we call life, is afraid of the people. The strong minded people of the United States of America are not afraid to stick up for their rights. I believe the problem is that the people don't know what they want and therefore are willing to take what is offered. Eventually the people will understand what is happening and open their mouths, grab their guns, and rebel.
     
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    How delightful your utopian future sounds.
     
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    I do believe that sooner or later people are going to stand up and say enough is enough. I guess you could call that a rebellion BUT I doubt very seriously if guns will be involved. The rebellion will come at the voting booth. I truly believe that incumbents are going to have a tough go of it in the next several election cycles.
     
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    the ballot is more powerful than the bullet

    ........in a true democracy
     
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    1984 was supposed to be a model of what the (former) Soviet Union was turning into.
     
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    Guns was a metaphor for voting or an impeachment against the president
     
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    Thanks for the clarification. It was obviously far too clever a metaphor for me. :lol:
     
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    Orwell didn't reference the US from memory. Airstrip One was the UK just after WWII. Orwell, probably a lone voice on the British Left at that time, was awake to what was happening in the Stalinist Soviet Union while his comrades in the UK Left were still dribbling their approval of Uncle Joe sociopathic mass murderer and his filthy, stinking regime of bastard nutcases.

    The closest the US got to Airstrip One was under Cheney and the other bloke. But you missed it, by that much - be glad you did.
     
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    Absolutely true. It was silenced at the time and apparently worked; but Nineteen-Eighty-Four wasn't modeled on the Soviet Union, but what Orwell thought was Emerging everywhere at the time: Rule by propaganda, by lies, and by eternal war-fare. It's a sad irony he died so early; for the same people that use his example today by quoting 1984 and all those celebre quotes from his books and writing scant realize that he was a socialist of the truest type; the type that stood against not only the excesses of savage capitalism but of the poisonous distortion created by so-called "communists" in the disgusting empire of the Soviet Union and like-minded totalitarian and STATE-CAPITALIST models of rule. They scant realize that he stood and actively fought for the REAL activation of working- and middle-class- awakening of authoritarian structure of WHICH capitalism is a component of, detailed in many other writings throughout his life; and against the notion that human society can ONLY function under an inherently authoritarian HIERARCHY which is what modern society is based on.
     
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    Orwell was certainly cognizant of the horrors of Stalin.

    But 1984 isn't merely an indictment of communism...it was an indictment of the methodology of all totalitarians.

    Remember what Winston did for a living?

    He REWROTE history.

    Orwell understood (much as our masters understand) that the best way to make a totalitarian government thrive is to confuse the people by destroying their HISTORY, and by destroying the LANGUAGE by obfucating the truth behind words that have lost all meaning.

    And folks, that's exactly what you're experiencing in this nation, RIGHT NOW
     
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