15 years ago this week, the Soviet Union collapsed

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    On Dec. 8, 1991, Soviet premier Boris Yeltsin met with the leaders of several other regions of the Soviet Union, and signed an agreement saying that the Soviet Union was dissolved. They formed the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS). With the release of the citizens from the inron grip of the Soviet government, law-abiding citizens and criminals alike sprang to life each having their effect on the countried involved as they experimented with freedom for the first time in living memory.

    Some say that the American arms buildup by Ronald Reagan was instrumental in the Soviet collapse, when the Soviets tried to keep up and their economy failed as a result. But it is more likely that the Soviet system was heading for collapse anyway, due to inefficient central planning and an economic philosophy that discouraged effort and productivity. The Reagan arms race may have given it an extra push, but it was headed for collapse anyway.

    The collapse of the Soviet Union freed more people from oppressive dictatorship at one stroke, than ever in the history of the world. It also demonstrated once and for all the unworkable nature of large, overbearing central government planning and socialistic economic theory.
     
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    This important anniversary is more than likely blacked out in our schools. Just like in our mainstream media...
     
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    Hey, that would mean the kids had to understand that communism was a threat. To do that, teachers would have to teach the isms. That's very hard for many, as they don't understand it themselves. :rolleyes: Yes, I'm very serious. You are expecting people that don't really understand their own system of government, to tackle another philosophy that they buy into to some degree, to teach this? LOL!
     
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    How stupid of me to think that professionals should have that capacity...:rolleyes:

    (present company excepted of course)
     
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    Thank you for that. Most secondary teachers have not read Das Kapital and even if they did, they don't see how it got from that to the USSR or China or Cuba.

    Then again, even when they try they don't understand capitalism or a federated republic so there you have it.
     
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    Teachers tend to be fairly knowledgeabe about their chosen subject. Ask your average history teacher and he/she can probably give you a pretty decent bit on what communism is and what happened to the Soviet Union. However because most elementary school history/jr. high school classes tend to be either extremely broad (world history) or extremely narrow (various State history) these classes either do not have the time to make it to relatively recent history, or do not have the scope to explain it in terms of the big picture. Thus Communism is usually left to high school european history classes.
     
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    Not really. I'm there and it's not true. In high school the current requirements for 'social studies' put the emphasis on 'global studies' and a special core, such as 'black studies' or 'government'. Yes, there is a class in 'constitution' related so the test may be administered, Cliff Notes, aka sparknotes, does a better job.
     
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    Where do you teach Kathianne? I took a european studies class in my junior year which covered communism in pretty decent detail including the fall of the soviet union. Good teacher two.
     
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    Isn't at least some basic world history taught at the grade school level? What do teachers teach the 5th and 6th graders?
     
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    Truly, it's weak, if the follow the texts. I do differently, but I'm way over qualified, not 'tootin my own horn' just the facts, degrees wise, (more importantly understanding wise.)

    First there were schools to 'teach the Word'. Then there were schools to teach 'the government.' Now there are schools to teach the 'message' of inclusiveness, aka multiculturalism. "US is bad you know, they killed the Indians, whoops! Native Americans. They also started, enhanced, grew slavery-never mind the modifier, it was all their fault. No Euros or 'others.' Nope, all those fing colonists. Uh huh.
     

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